desquirrel
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posted on May 1, 2007 12:27:23 PM new
Must be easy to say "We must find someone who can fix that and fix it."
Yeah those terrorist have really stepped it up post Iraq. LOL
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ST0NEC0LD613
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posted on May 1, 2007 12:31:51 PM new
So, kozersky, you have stated your opinion that mingo, bigpeepa, kiara and I have a reading comprehension problem based on our perception of your original post.
That's not an opinion. It's a fact!!! Oh, you can include logansdunce with that crowd as well.
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If it's called common sense, why do so few Demomorons have it?
 Are YOU a Bunghole?
Take the bunghole quiz here.
http://www.idiotwatchers.com/bunghole/index.html
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linda_K
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posted on May 1, 2007 12:33:23 PM new
LOL.....FINALLY kiara admits she has never supported the war in iraq.
BUT....never heard a peep out of her when the dems were saying the SAME EXACT things about saddam having NUCLEAR WEAPONS......never heard a discouraging word from kiara when clinton BOMBED iraq because HE and his admin. said they had womd.
NEVER put ANY blame on saddam for NOT cooperating with the UN and it's 13 years of 'warnings', 13 years of 'one last chance'.... nothing but BLAME towards this admin. for taking action to get rid of saddam, one who the WORLD believed had NW and believed was a threat to the region and the WORLD.
Nope....every single thing she has said against THIS administration she accepted from the previous one.
kiara is a self admitted Internationalist, not one who pledges allegiance to ONE Nation....not Canada nor America.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack." 
Ann Coulter
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ST0NEC0LD613
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posted on May 1, 2007 12:40:16 PM new
never heard a discouraging word from kiara when clinton BOMBED iraq
That's because Clinton bombed Iraq to divert attention away from his getting a blow job, in the White House, on our dime.
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If it's called common sense, why do so few Demomorons have it?
Are YOU a Bunghole?
Take the bunghole quiz here.
http://www.idiotwatchers.com/bunghole/index.html
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kiara
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posted on May 1, 2007 12:47:17 PM new
LOL.....FINALLY kiara admits she has never supported the war in iraq.
Since the start of the invasion I have always admitted that I haven't supported the war in Iraq. Where have you been or have you been too busy speaking for me that you've failed to listen to me, Linda_K??
never heard a discouraging word from kiara when clinton BOMBED iraq because HE and his admin. said they had womd.
Back then I wasn't posting on the RT. I never discussed politics on the RT until the looting right after the invasion of Iraq and I realized it was the start of a terrible situation.
kiara is a self admitted Internationalist, not one who pledges allegiance to ONE Nation....not Canada nor America.
Is something wrong with that? I am a resident of the entire planet and live among everyone else on it. I want the best for all people, no matter the country because there are good people worldwide and I think we should all work together to make things better.
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linda_K
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posted on May 1, 2007 12:49:41 PM new
lol...Stonecold.
Yes, that's what some claimed.
But he TOLD the world...and American citizens that it was to RID saddam of his bio/chem/AND nuclear weapons program.
Was he LYING to us again? 
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And I'm also talking about all the DEMS/liberal elected leaders, who SAID THE SAME THING during THIS admin....when they were VOTING to go to war.
A FACT the liberals refuse to accept. Since things got tough....they want to surrender to the terrorists now. cowards....
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"Must be easy to say "We must find someone who can fix that and fix it."
well..that sure as hell isn't going to be the liberals/dems. Their ONLY 'fix' is to surrender to our enemies.
What a PLAN, huh?
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
[ edited by linda_K on May 1, 2007 12:56 PM ]
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linda_K
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posted on May 1, 2007 12:52:44 PM new
kiara - JULY of 2001 is when you registered here.
I NEVER saw you EVER disagree with all the liberals dems who VOTED to send us to war. ONLY blaming this President for it. Never even acknowledging the dems/liberals that ALSO voted to go to war.
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Helenjw
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posted on May 1, 2007 12:53:27 PM new
"Is something wrong with that? I am a resident of the entire planet and live among everyone else on it. I want the best for all people, no matter the country because there are good people worldwide and I think we should all work together to make things better."
I believe that it was Thomas Paine who said, "My country is the world, all mankind are my brothers and to do good is my religion." The world would be a better place if everyone had that philosophy.
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linda_K
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posted on May 1, 2007 01:00:16 PM new
"Is there something wrong with that?"
You are free to be whatever you want.
That's NOT the point.
Internationalist are NOT concerned about the survival of America. And patriots ARE.
When an internationalist starts favoring terrorists against American interests then YES, there is something TERRIBLY wrong with that, imo.
They want this 'world' organization that rules all nations. American's didn't FIGHT for our freedom to give it up to international rulings....etc.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
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desquirrel
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posted on May 1, 2007 01:08:58 PM new
Helen
Get yourself a decent headscarf and head over to Iraq for a quick meeting with the fuzzy wuzzies. We will give you all of our support and even pay for the flight. We'll start off one-way coach and see what turns up.
Ahh, the "citizen of the world". It's just like the beauty of communism. You know, working shoulder to shoulder, storing the product of your labors in the communal storehouse using only what they need....
Now if it just weren't for those pesky people stealing their share and yours.
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kiara
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posted on May 1, 2007 01:11:11 PM new
Thanks for the quote by Thomas Paine, Helen. That's the way I feel.
Linda_k, I registered at Auctionwatch/Vendio in 1998 or 1999. I started posting with my name Kiara in 2001. I posted mainly on the Outlook for years and seldom paid that much attention to the RT though I read here on occasion while I posted auctions.
I started reading more at the RT after 9/11 and found fascinating discussions about going to war with Afghanistan, etc and I wanted to learn from opinions given by all who posted here back then as I was uninformed about Al Qaeda and why they did that to America. As I said, it wasn't until the invasion of Iraq that I actually started posting anything political.
And I don't favor terrorists nor have I ever. I think they are evil to do the things they do. Linda_K, you just make those things up and say them to further your propaganda and give yourself another reason to rant at me and hate me because my opinions differ from yours.
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linda_K
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posted on May 1, 2007 01:21:51 PM new
LOL desquirrel.....I'll chip in for that too.
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kiara I posted the date that is on your name. It doesn't matter WHEN you started posting here really.
It's that you have ONLY put the blame for this 'mess' on this administration SINCE you started posting about it.
Period. Hopefully you get the bigger picture NOW.
Or...maybe you'd like to pretend by IGNORING saddams actions for 13 years - IGNORING that the dems/libs here in America SUPPORTED the war....then that makes it all okay.
You SAY you support the UN....you know, the international BODY of rulers lol lol.....but you refuse to acknowledge what THEY were saying saddam had to do.
So...when I once posted that SADDAM could have prevent us going to war.....you disagreed and put NO BLAME ON HIM.
Only on this admin. as you have done 'SINCE you started posting here on the RT'....whenever that was.
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kiara
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posted on May 1, 2007 01:27:28 PM new
Ahh, the "citizen of the world". It's just like the beauty of communism. You know, working shoulder to shoulder, storing the product of your labors in the communal storehouse using only what they need....
Wanting good things for all worldwide is not wanting Communism. I'm talking about better efforts to understand different cultures and accept the differences without so much judgment.
I'm talking about curing diseases like AIDS and helping reconstruction projects in less wealthy countries so the people can work to improve themselves and also contribute to society worldwide. There will always be some people better off because they work harder or are more knowledgeable and they deserve what they earn.
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linda_K
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posted on May 1, 2007 01:28:20 PM new
Another thing I want to mention that you have repeatedly done with me, kiara, is post your FALSEHOODS that it's BECAUSE you don't agree with the 'Bush' actions that I have a problem with you.
And although I have explained over and over and over again...you'll NEVER get it. Just as you don't many other issues that have been repeated to you, over and over and over again.
To ME, my position is I supported clinton when he bombed Iraq. NO partisan politics there for me. I believed what he and the admin. before him TOLD us.
I only wished he had done MORE. As I wished he'd have dealt with the FIVE attacks on US interests during his admin. He didn't have the guts, imo.
And now....it's NOT because Bush DID have the courage to take on saddam.....
he had NOTHING to do with my LIFE LONG HELD VIEWS/positions about fighting terrorism....no matter WHO was willing to do so.
I'd be JUST as supporting and argue with you peace-niks even if LIEBERMAN were our President.
Party has nothing to do with my positions. BUT having strong leadership who AREN'T cowardly to protect American interests ARE THE MOST important to me.
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kiara
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posted on May 1, 2007 01:30:13 PM new
You SAY you support the UN
No, I have never said that. Nor have I said most of the things you accuse me of, Linda_K. Do you have a problem allowing me to speak for myself?
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linda_K
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posted on May 1, 2007 01:45:24 PM new
Not at all, kiara. I have NEVER told you to shut up...cram it...etc. like you and other liberals here do. 
I feel ALL are free to post their positions and opinions.
And I post MINE of how I have seen you posts for the past SIX years.
You are an internationist and you DO support most of the 'views' of the UN.
ALL internationalist do.
Who are you trying to fool?
Might want to show us a post you've EVER made where you HELD saddam to ANY responsibity for this war beginning?
LOL LOL LOL
You can pretend you haven't taken an internationalist position on many issues....but you often have.
You have ONLY put the blame on this war on THIS Presidents shoulders.
And all of the above 'is APPROVED by Linda_K
roflol
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kiara
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posted on May 1, 2007 01:52:49 PM new
And although I have explained over and over and over again...you'll NEVER get it. Just as you don't many other issues that have been repeated to you, over and over and over again.
Do yourself a favor and stop repeating it over and over and over again, Linda_K.
Accept the fact that I will never believe as you do.
Since my opinions outrage you so much that you ignore what I've actually said and choose to label me constantly and speak for me about what you think I believe (with no proof whatsoever) perhaps use the ignore button before you have a stroke.
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linda_K
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posted on May 1, 2007 01:58:01 PM new
I have never expected you to ever agree with me.
I'd NEVER be against my own Nation and pro- those who wish to change or destroy my country as it was founded.
I won't ignore you either.
You don't see your own posts the way others do. Especially those of us who see you always bashing America/American policy/etc.
I will confront you each and everytime.
And doing so has nothing to do with what you continue to falsely accuse me of.....like getting ready to have a stroke.
Liberals like yourself are easy and don't require much emotion at all. It's energy I LOVE expending. Because YOU and your ilk don't have America's best interests at heart.
And I DO.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
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kiara
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posted on May 1, 2007 02:20:04 PM new
I'd NEVER be against my own Nation and pro- those who wish to change or destroy my country as it was founded.
Linda_K, I never said that you should be against your nation and for those who wish to destroy it nor did anyone else here. Just because I don't agree with the way the war in Iraq was executed it doesn't mean I'm against America or wish to see it destroyed.
You don't see your own posts the way others do. Especially those of us who see you always bashing America/American policy/etc.
Who are the 'others'? Who are 'us'. And why do you speak for them also as well as for me?
Many right in America are bashing American policy at this time. That does not mean that they are anti-American, they're just expressing their frustration over events and want improvement.
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desquirrel
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posted on May 1, 2007 02:24:00 PM new
"Wanting good things for all worldwide is not wanting Communism. I'm talking about better efforts to understand different cultures and accept the differences without so much judgment.
I'm talking about curing diseases like AIDS and helping reconstruction projects in less wealthy countries so the people can work to improve themselves and also contribute to society worldwide. There will always be some people better off because they work harder or are more knowledgeable and they deserve what they earn."
And I'm talking about people with silly Kumbaya statements acting morally superior even though the subject is ridiculously "optimistic".
Tell me did you ever put the back of your hand against your forehead and say to someone "I'm against war!" and get slapped on the back with "me too, sister!!!"?
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kiara
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posted on May 1, 2007 02:45:30 PM new
desquirrel, there is nothing wrong with being optimistic and supporting the efforts made by others who work towards AIDS, world hunger or any other issue that can improve the world, including doing work within our own communities that improve the very cities we live in.
It has nothing to do with acting morally superior. Bush Sr, Clinton, Bill Gates, Bono and hundreds of thousands others worldwide are involved in these projects and none of them are acting 'morally superior' for doing so even if you tend to view it that way.
And I guess you also failed to read where I support the war in Afghanistan because I believe the terrorists are evil.
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desquirrel
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posted on May 1, 2007 03:29:23 PM new
Such things only work in instances of common interest. When people start arguing about "negotiations instead of war", you are talking with a simpleton who is divorced from reality. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PROBLEM AT HAND IS RELIGION.
It is been that way from the beginning of time.
And BTW, what is so dramatically different about Afghanistan than Iraq?
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linda_K
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posted on May 1, 2007 04:11:07 PM new
I'd LOVE to hear her answer to that one also.
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From what **I've** taken from kiara's posts...the excuse/difference would be that the WORLD BODY she so supports, yet denies supporting, felt it was justified THEN.
And it wasn't with Iraq.
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