Al Qaeda No. 2 Wants 200,000-300,000 U.S. Dead in Iraq
Ayman al-Zawahiri Says Al Qaeda Wants to Spill More U.S. Blood Before America Withdraws
Al Qaeda no. 2 Ayman al-Zawahiri wished for hundreds of thousands of U.S. dead in a new video. (ABC News)
By BRIAN ROSS
May 5, 2007
In a new video posted today on the Internet, al Qaeda's number two man, Ayman al Zawahiri, mocks the bill passed by Congress setting a timetable for the pullout of U.S. troops in Iraq.
"This bill will deprive us of the opportunity to destroy the American forces which we have caught in a historic trap," Zawahiri says in answer to a question posed to him an interviewer.
Continuing in the same tone, Zawahiri says, "We ask Allah that they only get out of it after losing 200,000 to 300,000 killed, in order that we give the spillers of blood in Washington and Europe an unforgettable lesson."
Based on the references to the bill, the tape, produced by al Qaeda's propaganda arm, as-Sahab, [bappears to have been made after Congress passed the legislation last week[/b] but before President Bush vetoed in on Thursday.
According to Laura Mansfield, a counter terrorism analyst with Strategic Translations, an organization that monitors al Qaeda postings, the tape was posted on the Internet this morning and covers the usual range of Zawahri's topics including Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine.
There has been a flurry of audio and video releases featuring Zawahiri, although no new communication from Osama bin Laden since mid-2006.
THESE are the bastards helen and her ilk want to SURRENDER TO. Want to run FROM - give the VICTORY to.
And they're stupid enough to believe AQ won't be trying their BEST to hit American soil AGAIN.
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edited to add more that CNN had posted about this video.
[taken from Colin's CNN link]
In one section of the video, an interviewer asks al-Zawahiri to comment on legislation that ties the funding of U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan to a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq.
"This bill reflects American failure and frustration," says al-Zawahiri, second-in-command to Osama bin Laden. "However, this bill will deprive us of the opportunity to destroy the American forces which we have caught in a historic trap.
"We ask Allah that they only get out of it after losing 200 to 300 hundred thousand killed, in order that we give the spillers of blood in Washington and Europe an unforgettable lesson, which will motivate them to review their entire doctrinal and moral system which produced their historic criminal Crusader-Zionist entity," al-Zawahiri says.
Al-Zawahiri makes what appears to be a dig at the Baghdad security crackdown started in February -- Operation Enforcing the Law. He apparently is alluding to the failure of coalition forces to stop the suicide bomber who breached security in the Green Zone last month and detonated a bomb in the parliament cafeteria.
"And lest Bush worry, I congratulate him on the success of his security plan and I invite him on the occasion for a glass of juice -- but in the cafeteria of the Iraqi parliament!"
A plea for unity
Speaking during a period when rivalries and feuds are reported among Sunni militants, he urged the Sunni world to unite and "combine its efforts to make the purified sharia the highest authority."
Sharia is the system of Islamic law.
He takes a shot at Iran and Shiites, making reference to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's claim to be in contact with the Mahdi, the 12th and "hidden imam" holy to Shiites, and to the Shiites' claim to be descendants of the Prophet Mohammed.
"Those leaderships are intent on establishing certain concepts which nullify the intellects of their followers and prevent them from understanding the Quran and Sunna, except through their interpretations and explanations, and are intent to gather around themselves the biggest possible number of followers through claims of noble lineages and connections with the unseen in order to use them in political conflicts which often clash with the slogans they used to raise.
"Such as the slogan 'America, the Great Satan,' which became the slogan 'America, the Closest Partner,' and such as the movements which used to claim that they were carrying the message of Islam to liberate the Muslims in Iraq from Saddam the Baathist, but are now sending messages of surrender to keep the forces of Bush the Crusader in the Muslims' lands."
Al-Zawahiri told the Hamas leadership in the Palestinian territories to keep the faith with its staunch tenets.
Hamas is considered a terrorist movement by Israel, the United States and the European Union.
"I ask the leadership of Hamas, first, not to turn away from the true rule of sharia and to only agree to participate in elections on the basis of an Islamic constitution," he said.
"And I ask it, second, that if it is given the choice between abandoning government and abandoning Palestine, it should abstain from government and hold on to Palestine and choose jihad and resistance."
Earlier messages
There were other Web messages this year said to be from al-Zawahiri.
In a February message, he called on Muslims to unite under Taliban leader Mullah Omar and to drop their attempts to form secular governments and instead follow only the strict Sharia law.
That video contained a still picture of al-Zawahiri, the audio remarks and English subtitles.
Mullah Omar is the elusive, shadowy Taliban leader who slipped away in the early days of the war in Afghanistan.
The Taliban ruled Afghanistan with an iron hand and sheltered al Qaeda before it was toppled by the U.S.-led invasion after al Qaeda's attack on the United States in 2001.
Another al-Zawahiri message was released January 22. It also contained harsh words for President Bush and the United States.
[ edited by Linda_K on May 5, 2007 05:48 PM ]
posted on May 5, 2007 04:46:47 PM
Linda_k, you have made it clear that those who do not support Bush and his war in Iraq must be supporting Saddam and the terrorists.
That means you've labeled and turned against most of the people in your very own country because they don't support Bush or his war.
The opinions and feelings and wishes of your fellow citizens are meaningless to you so how much more anti-American can you get? You should hang your head in shame.
Does this mean you're NOW going to say you don't support the US dem bill calling for us to WITHDRAW from Iraq???
LOL
didn't think so.
We've read your post for way to long to ever believe you'd want to fight AGAINST the terrorist in Iraq....the AQ terrorists.
Or terrorist ANYWHERE in the world helen.
You were even telling us how terrible we were when we bombed Afghanistan. You posted pictures of the poor children washing their ONE and ONLY carrot in dirty water. BAD America....look at the US troops....they're acting like terrorists, breaking into the Iraqi's homes....etc....etc....etc.
NEVER on America's side.
Even though your liberals and your dems VOTED to go to war....approved of invading BOTH Nations.
posted on May 5, 2007 05:13:39 PM
No, that's just MORE of your distorted THINKING, helen.
This isn't BUSH'S war.
This is OUR war...all of America against terrorism.
A FACT you, kiara, etc will NEVER see or admit though.
I NEVER once saw either of you start thread like his one that Colin has.
Pointing out ANYTHING negative the terrorist are doing. But there are THOUSANDS of you blaming/bashing BUSH for all this.
Where was your bleeding heart when our soldiers found all those cashes of weapons in childrens SCHOOLS? In Iraq hospitals...etc.?
Not a NEGATIVE word from you. NOT A negative word about saddam either.
And this thread proves the way these Iraqi school buildings were built, with BOMBS in them...isn't enough to stir even the least bit of comment from you.
Nope....as I said....if you aren't BASHING the President....making personal fun of me.....playing your stupid GAMES....then all terroristic actions are just something YOU IGNORE.
That continues to lead ME to believe you don't take the terrorists actions seriously ENOUGH.
AND that all you want to do is ADMIT DEFEAT to the terrorists, helen.
And don't play that I'm talking about untrue things either.
For MONTHS you specifically called for the US to leave Iraq AND ADMIT DEFEAT. YOU specifically used THOSE words.
Don't accuse me of telling untruths about what you've posted. We've ALL read them.
posted on May 5, 2007 06:07:36 PM
Linda_k, since you were surprised to find out just a couple of days ago that I didn't support the war in Iraq after I've spoke out about it since its beginning; of course I wouldn't expect you to remember any topics I started or spoke out against the terrorists in.
You think I am supporting Saddam when I call him an evil and ruthless dictator who was cruel to his people.
You think I support Saddam and the terrorists if I mention that Bush is an incompetent leader.
But where were you on the topics about the dead troops being flown home with more dignity and presented to their families with more dignity?
Where was your outrage over the deplorable conditions of Walter Reed?
Where was your outrage when the soldiers were sent off to war without enough equipment?
Where was your outrage over the homeless and injured veterans that the government turned its back on?
All you did was turn your back on them also and whine about money being spent and then you laughed your head off over it.
Face it, you're anti-American through and through. Shame on you.
posted on May 5, 2007 08:40:09 PM
LOL.....where was **I**?
Laughing at you, just as I am now, with how many lies you can type in ONE post.
You SURE can TWIST well. Not much else though.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on May 6, 2007 06:09:32 AM Linda, Don't worry about my choice not to respond to your false and offensive remarks. There will always be someone here who enjoys poking the pig to watch it squeal. And some from other forums will continue to have a good laugh at your expense.
posted on May 6, 2007 11:45:07 PMAfter reading the messages to my original posts, I've come to a couple conclusions.
First and foremost, Kiara is definitely the love (?) child of a disgusting night of drunken, incestuous activity.
She has Dad’s (Peabrain) mental aptitude (dumb as a box of rocks)and Mom’s (Helen) “Never wrong, stab them with a fork” commitment to not knowing her azz from a hole in the ground.
Some of her more moronic statements are copied below.
“That's what happens when a country is invaded and destroyed, their government and army toppled and the borders left unguarded and open for several years afterwards. It's no secret that the terrorists and insurgents have been arriving since the invasion because there has been no one to stop them. Even though Saddam was a ruthless dictator he wouldn't have allowed al Qaeda in to compete on his own territory - Saddam wanted full control and he had it.”
“Of course! The Bush regime should have been able to figure that out but allowed them to come in to Iraq and do these evil deeds.
No plans were made to secure the borders and they keep coming in to do more damage because the borders are still open. Duh!”
Just because I have knowledge that Iraq was one of the most developed countries in the Middle East before Bush invaded it, I am a Saddam supporter?
I like this one a lot. I think she meant to say “Lebanon”
“Linda_K, don't be ignorant and try to blame Helen and me for the spread of terrorism.
Tell me exactly how YOU are stopping terrorism from spreading.”
that should shut Linda up.......
“And I'll tell you Linda_K, you have batsh!t for brains if you think you're doing your part in fighting terrorism by ranting propaganda and calling names on chat boards all day.”
She’s got a nasty mouth...or finger (she’s typing)
“Linda_k, you have made it clear that those who do not support Bush and his war in Iraq must be supporting Saddam and the terrorists.
That means you've labeled and turned against most of the people in your very own country because they don't support Bush or his war.
The opinions and feelings and wishes of your fellow citizens are meaningless to you so how much more anti-American can you get? You should hang your head in shame.”
Can everyone say A-Ho?
The rest of it makes no sense to anyone. She says Linda is hitting the bottle (may or may not be true) but I think it’s our little sweetheart that’s chugging the Muscatel.
Amen,
Reverend Colin
http://www.reverendcolin.com
[ edited by colin on May 6, 2007 11:46 PM ]
posted on May 7, 2007 06:17:35 AM
Colin, You appear to think like your friend, Linda_K and support her fallacious belief that weapons of mass destruction were found. It must be difficult to support a fantasy so bizarre that it lacks the entertainment value of a conspiracy theory.
To engage in nothing but silly personal attack as your response in your effort to defend the indefensible is not too smart. In that respect you resemble Linda_K. Add a roll on the floor while laughing and then you and Linda_K will be different in name only.
posted on May 7, 2007 11:33:36 AM
helen's always willing to change the subject from the topic to one of her RANTS.
And according to clinton....oral sex isn't REALLY sex at all.
but it's a shame since he said that, oral STDs are exploding.
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"Wouldn't it be love-il-ly" if helen would JUST ONCE condemn the actions of the terrorists we fight in Iraq and Afghanistan?
JUST ONCE.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on May 7, 2007 11:48:49 AM
Well.....I figured waiting for helen or kiara to tell us just how TERRIBLE they see the actions of these muslim terrorists....ones who would KILL their own children.....might take years.
Same with THEM telling us just how THEY would stop this murder of the Iraqi CHILDREN. Just TALK and UNDERSTAND them won't change the FACT they OFTEN kill children.
I'd THINK that would just SO upset kiara and helen that they'd want to put an IMMEDIATE STOP to it.
But, sadly it appears they'd rather RAGE at others who do want to stop this barberic terrorism using young children.
Plus it's good for all to have statistics and FACTS once in a while.
Oral STDs were NOT as prevalent as they are now that clinton set such a HIGH MORAL example to them, showed his lack of morals to the youth of America.....and declared it's NOT SEX at all.
posted on May 7, 2007 12:00:48 PM
Listen, Linda. If you want to throw out irresponsible statements like that, you should be able to show the evidence to support it. Otherwise, it is just your warped opinion.
posted on May 7, 2007 12:02:01 PM
I guess I could also ask YOU, CC, why you'd support our troops leaving Iraq and allowing these terrorists to murder the Iraqi children, also?
What kind of liberal supports terrorists who would do such EVIL deeds to get their way in Iraq?
And why would you be soooooo opposed to the US troops stopping these murders?
Supposedly the deaths of our soldiers so upset the progressive, anti-war left that they want to SURRENDER to these SAME KILLERS.
posted on May 7, 2007 12:08:23 PM
LOL....now THAT'S funny, CC. Especially coming from one who thinks 'waco' is an intelligent poster.
Never see you asking a liberal here for a link...etc. And as I point out - WITH PROOF - most of the time that don't have a CLUE as to the actual FACTS.
I don't expect you to believe ANY FACTS/STATS....after all you're a liberal.
Try searching the CDC and LEARN something for YOURSELF. You're a GROWNUP now....no gov. agency to 'be your nanny'.
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Colin points out kiara said:
"She says Linda is hitting the bottle (may or may not be true) but I think it's our little sweetheart that's chugging the Muscatel."
THAT IT!!![b]. For the life of me I couldn't figure out why kiara continues to LIE about me drinking, when I've told her over and over and over again that I don't/CAN'T.
I thought she was just DENSE or as most liberals....have terrible memories and couldn't remember being told 100 times or more that I CAN'T drink. LOL LOL LOL
But now I see - She's PROJECTING her own actions upon me!!!
posted on May 7, 2007 12:26:42 PM
Colin, I'm pleased you noticed my comments and that they disturbed you so deeply that you went to all that trouble to copy and paste them while sputtering out a few names and lame insults.
Even though I said that Linda_K got drunk with power from ranting at us I loved the part where you said it may be true that she hits the bottle.
posted on May 7, 2007 12:40:45 PM
"Try searching the CDC and LEARN something for YOURSELF. You're a GROWNUP now....no gov. agency to 'be your nanny'"
I do not need instructions from you on how to research. I am well aware of the statistics. I am calling you on your ridiculous statement that since Clinton's remark, oral STD's have exploded. If you are going to make unproven, mindless statements like that, expect to be asked to back them up. The research does not bear that statement out.
