posted on June 19, 2007 07:24:35 PM new
kiara
posted on June 19, 2007 06:50:17 PM
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Not a leap....just your lack of knowledge about the whole subject. Not a surprise....expected from you.
Ya, I guess I never delved into that one with the fervor you did, Linda - I wasted my time learning about real estate and renovations and retailing and keeping my family happy and enjoying the outdoors and gardening and all that kind of boring stuff like having good morals.
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ROFLOL....that's sure obvious by your lack of knowledge. You're great with opinions and your 'so called morals' SUCK imo.
Better work some more on making them good....slandering others....posting total outright lies about them....are NOT 'good morals' imo. LOL
We share Austin Ruse’s outrage at the arrogance of the European Parliament for re-defining Judeo-Christian morality in Poland as “homophobia.”
Regarding pedophiles marching in the streets, the notorious NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association) once marched in homosexual ”pride” parades until “gay” organizers got smart and started banning the pederasty group.
However, one “father of gay rights,” Harry Hay, avidly defended NAMBLA, and protested the man-boy-sex group’s exclusion from the 1986 Los Angeles “gay pride” parade, holding a sign that read, “NAMBLA walks with me.”
In 2005, ex-gay Christian activist James Hartline made headlines when he revealed that two convicted pedophiles were were working as volunteers for San Diego’s homosexual “pride” festival. Please help Poland by signing C-FAM’s petition.– Peter LaBarbera
[ edited by Linda_K on Jun 19, 2007 07:38 PM ]
posted on June 19, 2007 11:54:53 PM new
Looks to be that way, Mingo. And those like me who speak out against it and call it criminal behavior are considered to have low moral standards then. I guess in some circles if you engage in it or condone it your standards are considered higher or something? And because I don't do extensive googling and learn all about nambla because I have no interest in it my morals dropped even lower in her eyes because of my lack of knowledge of the group, to the point where she says my morals SUCK.
posted on June 20, 2007 06:35:13 AM newIt was on the nambla website at:http://www.nambla.org
It must be a site you frequent often Linda.
I bet you first thought it stood for
Northern
Arkansas
Men
Banging
Linda's
Ass
Do you get email from the group to your webtv.net email address or do they send it to you at your home?
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on June 20, 2007 07:33:58 AM new
Linda, You have successfully taken this thread off topic (something you criticize others for doing.) Since you have already done that, I would like respond to your ridiculous statements. Almost all gay organizations DO NOT support NAMBLA and have criticized Hay. But you must fixate on the tiny percentage who do and paint the whole gay community and those who support gay rights with this wide brush. I am sure there are some known wife beaters marching in the St. Patrick's Day Parade or the Columbus Day Parade. Does this mean all Irish and Italian men are wife beaters? Of course not. Does this mean that any politician who marches in one of these parades supports wife beating? Of course not. That is faulty thinking. People who think the way you do have done more harm to society than any gay person.
[ edited by coincoach on Jun 20, 2007 07:35 AM ]
posted on June 20, 2007 07:44:55 AM new
June 12th, 2007 @ 4:00pm
Sam Penrod Reporting
A man is in jail, accused of videotaping children at a community event in Orem this weekend. Police say the suspect intentionally focused in on the rear ends of several children, in a sexual manner.
The incident happened on Saturday night at the end of Orem's annual Summer Fest celebration in a park along Center Street. About 10:00 p.m., someone reported to police a man was acting suspicious with a home video camera. The person was secretly videotaping young children who were wearing dance costumes or short skirts in the crowd.
Richard Barney, 45, was questioned by police. A tape taken from Barney shows videos of 12 children under age 12, although there are no faces of the children on the tape.
Lt. Doug Edwards from the Orem Department of Public Safety says, "When you have a story like this, it is a natural concern to parents to wonder is my child on that video, and the fact of the matter, we don't know. We haven't been able to identify any of the children and frankly we don't need to for the sake of charges."
Barney was booked into jail on ten charges of voyeurism, but because he is already on probation from a federal child pornography conviction he is being held on a probation violation.
In 2001 he pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography and was placed on probation for three years. In 2004, Barney was sent to federal prison for two years for violating terms of his supervised release, according to court records.
Barney is also listed on the state's sex offender Web site.
Police do not believe any children were physically victimized Saturday night but are still investigating. The suspect is in the Utah County jail awaiting formal charges in this case.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on June 20, 2007 07:50:53 AM new
7-12-2004 Peter Herman from nambla wrote:
"nambla endorses kerry for president; calls for the defeat of bush."
NY, NY - The nambla membership council today voted to endorse the election of sen. kerry as president of the US."
"We feel our organization and it's VALUES are well represented by the kerry/edwards ticket"
"We are particularly excited to see the genuine affection displayed openly and without fear by this older gentleman and his young, boyish mate."
"We believe President Bush has been hostile to our cause, and in john kerry we have an ally."
So based on your crazy reasoning, you feel the Democrats then approve and support NAMBLA. What a screwed up way of thinking you have.
If the KKK sent a letter to the Republicans saying they endorse Bush because Bush is more in line with their ideas, would you then believe the Republicans support what the KKK does?
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on June 20, 2007 08:05:12 AM new
That's why the following shows linduh to be pro Communism and pro Union despite her posts to the contrary:
Linda_K
posted on June 15, 2007 02:40:06 PM
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"First They Came for the Jews"
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
posted on June 20, 2007 09:55:06 AM new
I'm not surprised that the videotaping of children's behinds happened in Orem. That's the next town to Provo. In Utah, the church encourages small girls to take dance and wiggle lessons, wear makeup, do up their hair outlandishly, and dance in troupes. I've seen 2-year-olds accepted into those dance classes. Some of our Mormon friends who are a bit more advanced in their thinking decry it, but it does happen.
Now. . . aren't we all just talking past each other? Are any opinions likely to change here? How much time have we wasted on this topic, trying to beat some sense into Linda, and vice versa?!!!!
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There is more to life than increasing its speed. --Mahatma Gandhi
posted on June 20, 2007 09:56:49 AM newAgain, the fixation started with the original post.
I guess dumsquirrel was feeling left out because it was him that started Linda down the path of destruction with his original post:
So the gummit has to stop people from having 3 husbands or 2 wives, but same-sex marriage, or marrying the family Golden retriever is OK???
Once again the dumbos on the right have not objected to polygamy or incest so it makes you wonder how much they believe these actions are "morally right" to them. So squirrel are you all set to marry your neighborhood gray squirrel to get his fortune of nuts.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on June 20, 2007 10:54:49 AM new
"encourages small girls to take dance and wiggle lessons, wear makeup, do up their hair outlandishly, and dance in troupes"
I don't think the Mormons are a significant presence on the little girl "pageant" scene.
posted on June 20, 2007 11:16:18 AM new
Actually, not true, squirrel. The beauty-pageant business is huge in Utah.
One of the things we "Gentiles" observe in Utah is the emphasis on hair, makeup, nails, all that stuff--for young girls. They're encouraged to look as pretty as possible, with church classes just for that purpose, --and yet fend off any possible advances from the young men, to keep themselves pure for their temple wedding. Pure/virginal is a requirement for a temple wedding.
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There is more to life than increasing its speed. --Mahatma Gandhi
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on June 20, 2007 12:48:51 PM new
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"You have successfully taken this thread off topic (something you criticize others for doing.)"
"You are very confused. This topic was about "protecting the children" from deviants."
Nice try. I see the situation with complete clarity. The original post was about inbreeding, genetic defects, polygamy and old men marrying underage children. Admittedly, the problem is not overtaking the country, but people were discussing that topic. Only you--well no, Linda and Bear too, would bring in homosexuality and all the other crap you spew.
Only liberals are allowed to take ALL threads off topic when they want to.
But then while their one finger is pointing towards me. lol lol lol....their other four are pointing back towards them and their same behavior.
But it IS funny to read them whine whine whine all the time. Never seen a group of bigger whiners anywhere in one place than here. And always using their GRAND double standards.
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That said....nambla supporters like the aclu allow the continuation/encouragement of child molestation in America. And the liberals support their doing so. Their morals are severely lacking.
That to me...is nothing short of condoning child molestation. PERIOD.
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While the Mormon bashers would LOVE for all to think they have any more of a problem with child abuse than others do would be grossly FALSE.
There are articles in the news each and every day about child molesters. They're all around us. And it's the liberal judges that refuse to lock them up and throw away the keys. O'Reilly has found the same problem with the liberal governors who ALSO refuse to give stiffer sentences to these perverts.
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Just recently there was another San Jose man who was found with some HUGE amount of child porno. It's a sickness - a growing MORAL sickness in our society - that is growing and there are too many that support that sickness by supporting that 'whatever feels good do it' lifestyle. They've walked away from morality....away from common sense and away from seeing perverts as perverts...and wanting to force others to accept their abnormal behavior as normal.
Now not only are we told it's not PC to speak out honestly....now they're trying to make laws/make it illegal for anyone to actually call them on their LACK of morality. It's no longer an accepted thing to do.
Right is right - wrong is wrong has gone out the window. Religious BASHING is in, as long as no one does it against the radical muslims who want to destroy our nation.
posted on June 20, 2007 07:19:24 PM new
Today: June 20, 2007 at 15:55:10 PDT
Canada: 100 Held in Web Pedophile Case
By ROB GILLIES
Associated Press Writer
TORONTO (AP) - More than 100 people have been arrested so far in a global investigation that arose two years ago in Canada when police began monitoring an Internet chat room used by pedophiles to stream live videos of children being raped, authorities said Wednesday.
British officials revealed the extent of the crackdown Monday, saying the probe had identified 700 suspects in 35 countries but providing no figures on total arrests. They said 31 children had been rescued since British police joined the investigation last August.
Toronto police Sgt. Paul Krawczyk said Wednesday he had been involved in 82 arrests around the globe and that the total number of arrests was more than 100. Toronto police said Monday that 24 people had been charged in Canada.
Paul Gillespie, a police consultant who founded the Toronto police child exploitation unit, said he expected hundreds more to be charged around the world as part of the investigation.
"It's a manpower issue for law enforcement around the world. It's not a shortage of who to go after," Gillespie said. "Every country in the world has been sent the information and it's up to them to pursue these individuals and arrest them."
U.S. prosecutors said in March 2006 that they had charged 27 people, including 15 Americans in 11 states. Of those 15, there have been 11 convictions, one suicide and three cases are pending.
U.S. officials have declined to comment further on their part of the investigation, which is continuing.
British investigators made the latest stage of the investigation public after the sentencing of ringleader Timothy David Martyn Cox on Monday.
Cox's chat room, which was called "Kids the Light of Our Lives," featured live videos of children - some only months old - being subjected to horrific sexual abuse, officials said.
Cox, 27, was given an indeterminate jail sentence, meaning he will remain in prison until authorities decide he is no longer a threat to children. One of his accomplices, Gordon Mackintosh, awaits sentencing after pleading guilty to 27 charges of making, possessing and distributing indecent images and videos.
The probe began in Canada in the spring of 2005 after a woman overheard two children talk about not receiving candy following sexual abuse by their stepfather. The man was arrested and sentenced to 14 years in jail for abuse and distributing pictures on the Internet.
The man told police he had been in contact with other pedophiles through an online chat room called Kiddypics & Kiddyvids. Krawczyk and other officers began frequenting the chat room and arrested the site's primary host.
Cox was a participant in that U.S.-based chat room, and despite the announcement of the U.S. arrests and the site's shutdown in March 2006, he and others continued to share videos and images in the new chat room, officials said.
Krawczyk, who was working undercover, said Cox made him the other administrator of the site. "He made the only cop in the room an administrator. Bad luck on his part," Krawczyk said.
posted on June 20, 2007 07:36:41 PM new
AP Top News
Crossing Guard Faces 1,000 Sex Charges
By Associated Press
June 20, 2007, 1:03 PM EDT
BERWICK, Pa. -- A school crossing guard accused of molesting seven children was charged with more than 1,000 counts of sexual assault.
Dale Hutchings was arrested Tuesday and charged with 305 counts of raping a child, 356 counts of aggravated indecent assault against a child under 13, and 356 counts of indecent assault against a child under 13.
The assaults took place between 1998 and 2007, and all of the victims were under 13 when the attacks began, police said.
Hutchings, of Berwick, worked as a crossing guard near Orange Street Elementary School. He also worked for the Berwick Area Ambulance Association and was a high school band booster.
He was sent to Columbia County Prison on $300,000 bail.
Police began investigating Hutchings on Monday when an 11-year-old girl accused him of putting his hand down her pants as she made breakfast at his house toward the end of the school year, according to court documents. Police were led to other victims who also said they were molested.
One teenager, now 18, told police Hutchings molested her more than 300 times between the ages of 12 and 15, according to court documents.
Police said they found homemade videos when they searched his house late Tuesday.
Berwick is a town of about 11,000 in northeastern Pennsylvania.
posted on June 20, 2007 09:10:52 PM new
Linda--What on earth are you talking about? You are complaining that child molestation, pornography and rape are not taken seriously and then give 3 examples of arrrests of pornography rings and a crossing guard/pedophile. Does that sound like this crime is not taken seriously? I believe that arrests and prosecutions of these types of crimes are more aggressive than they have ever been. I think the whining you are talking about is your own.
posted on June 20, 2007 09:47:10 PM new
"I could post a long list of those who AREN'T Mormons who abuse children."
The confusion is yours, Linda. Who in this thread said that Mormons are the only child abusers in the country? There are child abusers in every walk of life, every ethnic, racial and religious group. No one has said otherwise. Just because it was stated that a certain group of polygamists may be guilty of child abuse, does not mean we believe there are no other groups guilty of child abuse. I can see you have never taken a course in Logic.
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Never seen a group of bigger whiners anywhere in one place than here. And always using their GRAND double standards.