posted on July 4, 2007 07:29:17 PM new
Quote: "Should men accused of murdering their wives use OJ as a defense? He didn't get convicted, so why should I?"
posted on July 4, 2007 07:39:58 PM new
Quote: "Should criminals be punished for their crimes and serve full sentences?
Do you agree that any president can give pardons and/or commute sentences for their buddies?
#l. Yep they should be punished for their crimes, But depends on what the punishment is, right. Do you agree with the death penalty? I didn't think so.
#2. Yep, I agree that any president can give pardons and/or commute sentences for their buddies.
Apparently so did Clinton.
. (President Clinton granted 140 pardons and 36 commutations, ) and so did many other presidents.
posted on July 4, 2007 08:05:32 PM new
You can compare Clinton to bushit but the fact remains that Clinton was more popular and remains more popular than bushit.
I love that bushit scoffs at the law and commuted the sentence of his close friend especially right now...when he's just so gosh danged "popular" LOL!!!!!!!
I'm sure his approval polls will reflect this ...and it will certainly not help people's view of the Republican party
Good move georgie!!!!!
posted on July 4, 2007 08:20:26 PM new
Bushit?? Have a little respect for the office of the president, if not the man.
At least Bush has the guts to commute a sentence with years to go before he leaves office instead of waiting till the last minute as some have done. Read the news item below and then have a little more respect for the office:
"Bill Clinton left Washington yesterday in a flurry of activity, signing measures, making speeches and granting 140 pardons in the hours before George W. Bush was inaugurated as his successor."
posted on July 4, 2007 08:23:53 PM new
"You can compare Clinton to bushit but the fact remains that Clinton was more popular and remains more popular than bushit.
BUT, we're not running a popularity contest here as some liberals like to think but have been so disapointed in the last two elections.
And somebody better tell Hillary how popular they are since Obama is millions ahead of her in money collections and is fast gaining on her in "popularity"..
posted on July 4, 2007 08:32:24 PM new
""BUT, we're not running a popularity contest here as some liberals like to think but have been so disapointed in the last two elections.""
Ha! Last election.... 2006...I think the Democrats were quite happy.
And if an election isn't a popularity contest then nothing is !!!!
bushit. bushit bushit...he gave no respect, he earned no respect, he gets no respect. He has made a sad joke of the office of president....I will call him what I please....and believe me bushit is the nicest thing I call him...
posted on July 4, 2007 08:37:03 PM new
"""Bill Clinton left Washington yesterday in a flurry of activity, signing measures, making speeches and granting 140 pardons in the hours before George W. Bush was inaugurated as his successor."""'
Uh, that's a well known fact...did you just discover it??
posted on July 4, 2007 08:38:09 PM new
Quote: "And if an election isn't a popularity contest then nothing is !!!!
bushit. bushit bushit...he gave no respect, he earned no respect, he gets no respect. He has made a sad joke of the office of president....I will call him what I please....and believe me bushit is the nicest thing I call him...
Apparently, you are not aware of how our presidential election works. A president can and has won the election without the popular vote.
posted on July 4, 2007 08:38:09 PM new
Quote: "And if an election isn't a popularity contest then nothing is !!!!
bushit. bushit bushit...he gave no respect, he earned no respect, he gets no respect. He has made a sad joke of the office of president....I will call him what I please....and believe me bushit is the nicest thing I call him...
Apparently, you are not aware of how our presidential election works. A president can and has won the election without the popular vote.
"and believe me, that is not the worst that I call him"..
I don't doubt it, and why doesn't that surprise me. Be glad you don't live in Russia. Siberia gets awfully cold.
Sorry about the double post.
[ edited by etexbill on Jul 4, 2007 08:38 PM ]
[ edited by etexbill on Jul 4, 2007 08:40 PM ]
posted on July 4, 2007 08:46:46 PM new
""A president can and has won the election without the popular vote.""
Oh, I think America is unhappily aware of that circumstance and so am I.
However, the "popular vote" and "popularity contest" are two DIFFERENT phrases, two different things, you can't argue one against the other.
""" don't doubt it, and why doesn't that surprise me. Be glad you don't live in Russia. Siberia gets awfully cold. ""
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Is bushit going to send dissenters to Siberian camps now??? It would be just like him!
posted on July 5, 2007 09:25:24 AM new
You have no idea what I am talking about. I don't doubt that either.
Read the sentence again slowly. Was Bush in it? No, the sentence was about what probably would happen to you if you lived in Russia. Be glad you are able to bad mouth your politicians.
http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article1173244.ece
[ edited by etexbill on Jul 5, 2007 09:26 AM ]
posted on July 5, 2007 09:28:24 AM new
"However, the "popular vote" and "popularity contest" are two DIFFERENT phrases, two different things, you can't argue one against the other"
posted on July 5, 2007 09:33:04 AM new
Quote: "He has made a sad joke of the office of president"
Why don't you stop while you are ahead?
I haven't seen Bush having sex in the oval office (far as we know). I haven't seen him convicted of lying under oath. I haven't seen him being impeached. I haven't seen him admitting as did Clinton, that he was too busy with his personal affairs to do what he should about Osama.
Talk about ignoring the facts.
[ edited by etexbill on Jul 5, 2007 09:34 AM ]
posted on July 5, 2007 10:08:17 AM newthat he was too busy with his personal affairs to do what he should about Osama.
And Chimpy McFlightsuit has been so much more successful in hunting down and capturing Bin Laden after proclaiming time and time again after 9/11 that he would hunt down and capture Bin Laden dead or alive. Didn't Bush declare Bin laden was not a top priority to him?
It seems like Bush is to wrapped up in Iraq to deal with Bin Laden.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on July 5, 2007 10:08:51 AM new
etexbill: Okay. So you're saying, right, that sex in the oval office is WORSE than sending almost 4,000 young Americans to their death? Hmmm. Let's see. Sex, deaths, sex, deaths. I just CANNOT decide which is worse. Get real.
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posted on July 5, 2007 11:27:58 AM new
stupid statement...but that figures...kiara said it.
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I haven't seen Bush having sex in the oval office (far as we know).
You didn't see Clinton either.
Who knows what Bush does in the oval office? With his ego he'd most likely want to 'one up' what Clinton did in there.
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his affairs were WELL documented. That's how WE KNOW. LOL LOL LOL
and the fact that the liberal left has accepted his immoral behaviors....says a lot about their own morals/ethics. tsk tsk tsk
posted on July 5, 2007 11:44:05 AM new
What you fail to recognize, Linda is that moral behavior goes beyond the bedroom. It involves integrity and a respect for the truth, consideration for the welfare of others, compassion for the sick and poor in our society and throughout the world. Bush has demonstrated no respect for the truth. He lied to involve the country in an illegal war and is now responsible for a mismanaged war, responsible for thousands of seriously wounded and dead soldiers and hundreds of thousands of dead throughout the mideast.
With that in mind, how on earth can you equate all of Bush's immoral behavior to a sexual daliance?
posted on July 5, 2007 11:45:48 AM new
Let's not forget about that famous Democrat Harry S. Truman and his fatality figures:
"That said, it is estimated that as many as 140,000 had died in Hiroshima by the bomb and its associated effects, with the estimate for Nagasaki roughly 74,000. Almost all of the casualties were a direct result of the bomb itself, with very few people dying from radiation induced illnesses . In both cities, the overwhelming majority of the deaths were those of civilians.
I remember those days. Sad, but millions of American lives were saved by those two bombs. I don't hear any of you blasting that. Sometimes extreme times bring on extreme measures.
posted on July 5, 2007 11:51:40 AM new
According to several CIA operatives, the Bush administration cherry picked the info they wanted to use and made in plain to them what info they wanted.
posted on July 5, 2007 11:52:27 AM newkiara, give it up. You're just not up to it.
Etexbill, it looks to me that neither you or Lindak can take a little joking over Bush. Pardon me for forgetting that when it comes to jokes 'your guy' is off limits and any mention of him is extremely sensitive to your feelings.
When I read "I haven't seen Bush having sex in the oval office (far as we know)" I laughed because some of you have most likely visualized Clinton and his oval office episode so often in your mind over the years that by now you believe you were actually there viewing it. You weren't. No one 'saw' it. Same as no one 'sees' what Bush does in there either. Lighten up!
posted on July 5, 2007 12:15:43 PM new
Hey Etexbill, I see how you have ignored how successful Bush has been at capturing Bin Laden. How convenient.
The 4,000 that died in Iraq?? How about the 3,000+ that died in the towers on our own soil. What would Gore have done??
What would Gore have done? You and your party want to keep playing fantasy games in your mind. We will never know what Gore would have done because 9/11 did not happen under his watch. We all know what Bush did. he ignore intelligence prior to 9/11. While the nation was under attack, he was to busy reading "My Pet Goat". After the 9/11 events he was to busy coming up with cheer leading slogans for his upcoming war against Saddam.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
[ edited by logansdad on Jul 5, 2007 12:17 PM ]
posted on July 5, 2007 12:19:59 PM new
"According to several CIA operatives, the Bush administration cherry picked the info they wanted to use and made in plain to them what info they wanted."
Whatever you wish to believe. According to several CIA operatives, the CIA tried to kill Castro, and others, worked with the mafia and the nazis.
posted on July 5, 2007 12:23:17 PM new
Quote: "Hey Etexbill, I see how you have ignored how successful Bush has been at capturing Bin Laden. How convenient."
Not at all, depends on what you can do in Pakistan, unless you want to invade them too. BTW, the latest reports that I read state that Bin Laden has been dead for a year. Not proven as yet.
posted on July 5, 2007 12:24:28 PM new
Etexbill, It's clear that you need to review the history of the Bush administration. You will find that the CIA cannot be found responsible for misinforming the president. He manufactured his own intelligence which he fed to congress, proclaiming an imminent threat to the the U.S. Under time pressure congress took those lies and voted.
Or you may represent the number of Americans who believe without question every word that comes from an authority figure or a corporate controlled media outlet. I think that the latest number is about 30%.
posted on July 5, 2007 12:48:57 PM new
Helenjw. You read your history and I read mine. I can site just as many reports confirming as you can denying.
You need to re-read your history possibly and not from your biased opinion.
The reports that were recieved stated the facts as they were known at the time. Verified by agents from foreign countries as well.
posted on July 5, 2007 01:00:43 PM new
"Or you may represent the number of Americans who believe without question every word that comes from an authority figure or a corporate controlled media outlet. I think that the latest number is about 30%."
helenjw, I appreciate your opinion but it is wrong. I am in the habit of questioning everything expecially from the media. One of my favorite examples of this is a recent headline in the paper which stated one thing and the article stated the complete opposite. I follow the Buddhist philosophy of questioning everything.
