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 mingotree
 
posted on July 11, 2007 12:08:24 AM new
I really should have titled this thread "The Tollroad To And From HeIl"....




Big Business Buys Silence of Toll Road Critical Newspapers
Foreign corporation in desperate lunge to quell massive popular dissent against Trans Texas Corridor & North American Union

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones
Prison Planet
Monday, January 29, 2007

A foreign toll road corporation has agreed to buy dozens of newspapers in Texas and Oklahoma that have up until now been harsh critics of the Trans Texas Corridor superhighway, a clear example of influence peddling that pointed to racketeering, and a desperate lunge to silence dissent against the sellout of American infrastructure and the North American Union.

"Australian toll road giant Macquarie agreed Wednesday to purchase forty local newspapers, primarily in Texas and Oklahoma, for $80 million. Macquarie Bank is Australia's largest capital raising firm and has invested billions in purchasing roads in the US, Canada and UK. Most recently the company joined with Cintra Concesiones of Spain in a controversial 75-year lease of the 157-mile Indiana Toll Road," reports The Newspaper.com.

The Bush administration has embarked on a policy of selling off key U.S. infrastructure to the highest bidder - in most cases foreign owned corporations. The Indiana Toll Road, Virginia's Pocahontas Parkway, a Texas toll road from Austin to Sequin and The Chicago Skyway have all been siphoned off to foreign companies who will all enjoy billions in profits from American citizens forced to pay the tolls, while others will be thrown off their land and have their property revoked without just compensation following the trend of recent eminent domain rulings.

The framework on which the American Union is being pegged is the NAFTA Super Highway (pictured) , a four football-fields-wide leviathan that stretches from southern Mexico through the US up to Montreal Canada. Its construction has already begun in Texas with no congressional oversight whatsoever. The Trans-Texas Corridor is being overseen by The Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) and the contract is owned by the Cintra corporation which in turn is owned by the King of Spain Juan Carlos. The project is being financed by the implementation of a toll that will be collected by means of GPS tracking devices installed in all vehicles and also envelops many connecting roads to the highway.



US citizens will be forced to adopt a de-facto national identification card and have their freedom of mobility defined by behavioral fealty to the government under proposals set to derive from NAFTA superhighway toll road systems and the implementation of the North American Union.

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Sal Costello, founder of TexasTollParty.com, an organization committed to fighting the implementation of the international toll roads, joined Alex Jones on his nationally syndicated KLBJ show Sunday to discuss Macquarie's buyout of toll road critical newspapers.

"This issue is about a foreign corporation coming in and it's about editorial independence, it's buying these newspapers, dozens of them, and they've had hundreds of stories over the past couple of years slamming the Trans Texas Corridor," said Costello.

"They've been very vocal in educating their communities all over Texas - so you have these newspapers saying there's something wrong here it stinks," said Costello, characterizing the newspaper buyout as an act of desperation on behalf of Macquarie.

"These newspapers have been very vocal and this one corporation comes in and buys them up, buys the whole news group, which is dozens of them, and basically this kills editorial independence."

Host Alex Jones wondered aloud that if foreign corporations out of Spain and Australia can just wade in and buy up large swathes of newspapers then what would stop a notoriously censorship happy nation like Communist China doing the same? He cited former World Bank economist and Nobel Prize winner Joseph Stiglitz, who stated that the process of foreign corporations buying up U.S. infrastructure and media was part of the globalization endgame, where the America literally goes into receivership to other countries.



"Set aside the fact that they're foreign, that makes it worse, but let's say that they weren't foreign, let's say that the newspapers were trashing for example Kodak for some horrible thing they're doing and Kodak comes in and buys up all the papers, it's still wrong," said Costello, characterizing the process as crony influence peddling that pointed to racketeering.

"It shows how dirty these special interests are but the folks that really pay for this in the long run is us because what they're really doing is they're after our land, they're after our roads and they're after our water."

Costello said that the only reason major newspapers are starting to report on the toll roads and highlighting the extortion tactics being employed to purchase them was because of the noise being made by the smaller media outlets, a chorus of dissent that will now be silenced once Macquarie's purchase is completed.

Jones said that the behavior of the foreign corporations involved was "off the charts" in buying the newspapers when one considers the vast public opposition to international and existing toll roads, which in some polls runs as high as 97 per cent.

He elaborated in saying that the international toll roads were the funding mechanism for the globalization, the North American Union and the destruction of U.S. sovereignty and issued a rallying call for the entire program to be defeated.

"Huge numbers of Texans will have to be moved off their homes, off their farms, off their ranches so that this foreign corporation can come in and profit," remarked Costello.

Visit TexasTollParty.com and find out how you can help oppose the Bush administration's agenda to destroy U.S. sovereignty.


[ edited by mingotree on Jul 11, 2007 12:20 AM ]
 
 mingotree
 
posted on July 11, 2007 12:11:35 AM new

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The NAFTA Superhighway


October 30, 2006


By now many Texans have heard about the proposed “NAFTA Superhighway,” which is also referred to as the trans-Texas corridor. What you may not know is the extent to which plans for such a superhighway are moving forward without congressional oversight or media attention.

This superhighway would connect Mexico, the United States, and Canada, cutting a wide swath through the middle of Texas and up through Kansas City. Offshoots would connect the main artery to the west coast, Florida, and northeast. Proponents envision a ten-lane colossus the width of several football fields, with freight and rail lines, fiber-optic cable lines, and oil and natural gas pipelines running alongside.

This will require coordinated federal and state eminent domain actions on an unprecedented scale, as literally millions of people and businesses could be displaced. The loss of whole communities is almost certain, as planners cannot wind the highway around every quaint town, historic building, or senior citizen apartment for thousands of miles.

Governor Perry is a supporter of the superhighway project, and Congress has provided small amounts of money to study the proposal. Since this money was just one item in an enormous transportation appropriations bill, however, most members of Congress were not aware of it.

The proposed highway is part of a broader plan advanced by a quasi-government organization called the “Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America,” or SPP.

The SPP was first launched in 2005 by the heads of state of Canada, Mexico, and the United States at a summit in Waco.

The SPP was not created by a treaty between the nations involved, nor was Congress involved in any way. Instead, the SPP is an unholy alliance of foreign consortiums and officials from several governments. One principal player is a Spanish construction company, which plans to build the highway and operate it as a toll road. But don’t be fooled: the superhighway proposal is not the result of free market demand, but rather an extension of government-managed trade schemes like NAFTA that benefit politically-connected interests.

The real issue is national sovereignty. Once again, decisions that affect millions of Americans are not being made by those Americans themselves, or even by their elected representatives in Congress. Instead, a handful of elites use their government connections to bypass national legislatures and ignore our Constitution-- which expressly grants Congress the sole authority to regulate international trade.

The ultimate goal is not simply a superhighway, but an integrated North American Union--complete with a currency, a cross-national bureaucracy, and virtually borderless travel within the Union. Like the European Union, a North American Union would represent another step toward the abolition of national sovereignty altogether.

A new resolution, introduced by Representative Virgil Goode of Virginia, expresses the sense of Congress that the United States should not engage in the construction of a NAFTA superhighway, or enter into any agreement that advances the concept of a North American Union. I wholeheartedly support this legislation, and predict that the superhighway will become a sleeper issue in the 2008 election.

Any movement toward a North American Union diminishes the ability of average Americans to influence the laws under which they must live. The SPP agreement, including the plan for a major transnational superhighway through Texas, is moving forward without congressional oversight-- and that is an outrage. The administration needs a strong message from Congress that the American people will not tolerate backroom deals that threaten our sovereignty.

 
 etexbill
 
posted on July 11, 2007 07:34:10 AM new
Go worry about your own state roads, crow. Has it entered your little mind that Texas may want the toll road. It will free up state money to maintain the over 72,000 miles of Texas Highways.

Do you spend your time looking up articles that tickle your little lib mind?? Get a hobby.
[ edited by etexbill on Jul 11, 2007 07:35 AM ]
 
 kiara
 
posted on July 11, 2007 08:13:51 AM new
We first started to hear about a project similar to this just before 9/11 and it was then called 'The Inland Corridor' and there was talk of it running from Mexico to B.C.

Besides the facts that this is being done behind closed doors and there is so much foreign control in the project, the highway will be used to speed the transport of Asian goods into the central part of the country - just what everyone needs, more crap from China and a way to get it even faster!

The role that Giuliani plays in this is very interesting.

NAFTA Superhighway has Giuliani as key player

May 4, 2007

But the TTC is the biggest and most massive highway building project of them all and for the first time will rely upon a foreign entity to not only maintain toll roads but to have a stake in building, controlling operations and tolls and expanding new roads and critical infrastructure. Additionally, eminent domain law will come into play in order to reconcile the taking of property and farmland for road expansion to accommodate pipelines and railroad tracks.

At the center of negotiations for multiple legs of the Superhighway Corridor throughout Texas, is none other than Rudolph Giuliani's law firm which landed the Comprehensive Development Agreement for a widening of Interstate-35, now referred to as the TTC-35, in addition to the Master Development Plans for State Highways 121 and 130 among other legs of the TTC. All negotiations for Cintra were and are presently handled by the law firm, Bracewell & Giuliani, LLP, of which Republican Presidential candidate, Rudolph Giuliani, has been a senior executive partner since March 2005. His law firm is the exclusive legal counsel for Cintra. Bracewell & Giuliani is comprised of 400 attorneys, based in Houston, TX with offices in New York City, Washington, D.C., London and Kazakhstan.

Cintra joined with San Antonio, TX-based Zachry Construction Corp. to help land the contracts, in which Zachry owns a 20% interest. The Cintra-Zachry proposal for TTC-35 includes a private investment of up to $6 billion in upfront payments for the complete construction, design and operation of a 316-mile toll road between Dallas and San Antonio, giving Cintra the right to set tolls and keep toll road profits for a period of 50 years, as it will for each road it has contracted.

(Much more info here)

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/grassi/070504



 
 Bear1949
 
posted on July 11, 2007 08:33:26 AM new
The Tollroad To And From HeIl"


Thought it was going to be about her revolving bed room door.



PS craw, it aint going to work, too many Texans are opposed to the privatization of toll roads.






It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.George S. Patton
 
 mingotree
 
posted on July 11, 2007 08:45:48 AM new
"""too many Texans are opposed to the privatization of toll roads."""

For once, bear, I hope you're right because this isn't just a "Texas" issue.


Texas legislators tried to pass bills exerting some kind of control over this but the Governor vetoed them....
It's hard top believe that those who scream about where our taxes are going are not more upset about ...



"""The Bush administration has embarked on a policy of selling off key U.S. infrastructure to the highest bidder - in most cases foreign owned corporations. The Indiana Toll Road, Virginia's Pocahontas Parkway, a Texas toll road from Austin to Sequin and The Chicago Skyway have all been siphoned off to



foreign companies who will all enjoy billions in profits from American citizens forced to pay the tolls,





while others will be thrown off their land and have their property revoked without just compensation following the trend of recent eminent domain rulings. """


 
 etexbill
 
posted on July 11, 2007 08:47:52 AM new
Also, does it enter anyone's mind that we don't have to use a toll road from Dallas to San Antonio if we don't want to. We already have a beautiful four and sometimes eight lane divided free interstate there and on to the Mexican border.

There is no forcing of anything here.

 
 mingotree
 
posted on July 11, 2007 09:40:52 AM new
Of course there will be a "choice". You will be able to drive on other highways which will not be maintained, speed limit 55, cops patrolling. Or, pay the toll and use a maintained freeway, speed limit 90 and no cops in sight.

Do you really think this much money is being invested to give people a choice ?


AND, if your land is in the way you will have NO choice in losing it, you will lose it. Texas will make you an offer, if you turn it down in 91 days they can legally take it. Is that a choice?

 
 etexbill
 
posted on July 11, 2007 10:38:34 AM new
crow, the interstate is well maintained, the speed limit is 70 but anybody in Texas who does 70 will be left standing in the dust or run over. The interstate already exists from Oklahoma to Mexico.
I have sold right-of-way to two power lines on my ranch and have been well paid. If you are not well paid, you can go to claims court. Much as you would like to complain about this, there is no complaint.

Send your complaint to Oklahoma, where some of the interstates are and have been toll roads since they were built. Paid by tax money and then tolls.

The toll road that was built between Dallas and Fort Worth years ago was paid off way ahead of schedule and became FREE immediately afterward.

Get a hobby.

 
 etexbill
 
posted on July 11, 2007 10:43:12 AM new
BTW, I see that you have posted again to your "slip, slidin, away". Five posts, all yours.

Get a hobby.
[ edited by etexbill on Jul 11, 2007 10:44 AM ]
 
 mingotree
 
posted on July 11, 2007 11:05:45 AM new
It's a shame etex that you can't or won't read and comprehend an OP before commenting on it.

But is amazing to realize you can count!

Now, if you only had the backbone to start a new thread yourself or present an intelligent comment on the issue......

Must be hard for you to realize you didn't write the Vendio rules

 
 kiara
 
posted on July 11, 2007 11:09:01 AM new

This isn't just about Texas.


 
 etexbill
 
posted on July 11, 2007 11:21:04 AM new
Now, crow, if you only had the intelligence to start a thread and comment without a C&P, we would all be happier.

Kiara, since Texas is often mentioned in crow's C&P, I am commenting on what I know, since I am familiar with the toll road discussion in Texas. And try not to be a disciple of the crow, it ain't pretty.

Crow, I suppose that you now cannot recognize a comment, because you don't want to if they don't follow right along with your position.

You can't stand anyone presenting the truth on a matter.

Get a hobby.

 
 etexbill
 
posted on July 11, 2007 11:29:04 AM new
Quote crow : "Now, if you only had the backbone to start a new thread yourself or present an intelligent comment on the issue......"

Again Crow, this is known as an intelligent comment:

"crow, the interstate is well maintained, the speed limit is 70 but anybody in Texas who does 70 will be left standing in the dust or run over. The interstate already exists from Oklahoma to Mexico.
I have sold right-of-way to two power lines on my ranch and have been well paid. If you are not well paid, you can go to claims court. Much as you would like to complain about this, there is no complaint.

Send your complaint to Oklahoma, where some of the interstates are and have been toll roads since they were built. Paid by tax money and then tolls.

The toll road that was built between Dallas and Fort Worth years ago was paid off way ahead of schedule and became FREE immediately afterward. "

Get a hobby.

 
 kiara
 
posted on July 11, 2007 11:35:08 AM new
And try not to be a disciple of the crow, it ain't pretty.

Etexbill, please don't assume I am a disciple of Mingo or anyone else here because I choose to comment on any topic that is brought forward here. I post as I wish.

I happen to find this topic interesting, including Giuliani's involvement in it and that is why I commented on it earlier.

BTW, I remember that you seem to stop by once every year or so and try to moderate the board and nitpick with some of us while being polite to others. Whatever.

 
 etexbill
 
posted on July 11, 2007 11:52:27 AM new
You call it nit-picking. I call it making comments on things I don't agree with just as you and everone else does.
And I'll continue to do this. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Whatever,
Namaste.

 
 kiara
 
posted on July 11, 2007 12:10:34 PM new
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

I'm not about to go anywhere except maybe to lunch in half an hour or so.

As far as heat, there is a difference between the warmth generated from a good discussion as opposed to just a lot of hot air generated because one person doesn't like the posting style of others who may not share his beliefs.


 
 etexbill
 
posted on July 11, 2007 12:25:16 PM new
"As far as heat, there is a difference between the warmth generated from a good discussion as opposed to just a lot of hot air generated because one person doesn't like the posting style of others who may not share his beliefs."

kiara, I never say anything unless the other poster has attacked first. Check it out. I will take up for myself.

I was here posting long before you or crow, and I will drop in once in awhile to keep you all straight.
 
 kiara
 
posted on July 11, 2007 12:32:08 PM new
I was here posting long before you or crow, and I will drop in once in awhile to keep you all straight.

Etexbill, not that it matters but I joined Vendio/AW at the beginning. Besides, time here doesn't mean much at all.

You may think you can keep others straight but may I inform you that each person has their own beliefs and style of posting and you can do very little about it, no matter how big your gun is.


 
 etexbill
 
posted on July 11, 2007 12:40:03 PM new
whatever kiara, check your ID and it will tell you when you joined. As you can see, I am almost two years ahead of you.

I don't lie.

 
 kiara
 
posted on July 11, 2007 12:54:24 PM new
I never said you lied, Etexbill.

When I joined AW I used my ebay ID and then changed it a few years later with the approval of one of the moderators here when I realized that some here were unable to discuss topics they disagreed on without messing with auctions also.

 
 etexbill
 
posted on July 11, 2007 01:06:58 PM new
Sorry, kiara. Maybe I should do that also.


[ edited by etexbill on Jul 11, 2007 01:07 PM ]
 
 etexbill
 
posted on July 11, 2007 01:11:52 PM new
Kiara, I'm not normally ornery. It just bugs me when crow calls people liars, and says they make no intelligent comments, when 90 percent of what she does is C&P.

I realize that she will not change, but I will continue to call her attention to her mode of operation until I decide to mosey on again.



 
 kiara
 
posted on July 11, 2007 01:31:52 PM new
I guess the C&P topic has to meet your approval otherwise it bothers you, Etexbill? A couple of others here do it mostly 100% of the time yet you aren't calling them nicknames or dogging them constantly with criticism.

 
 etexbill
 
posted on July 11, 2007 01:46:49 PM new
"I guess the C&P topic has to meet your approval otherwise it bothers you, Etexbill? A couple of others here do it mostly 100% of the time yet you aren't calling them nicknames or dogging them constantly with criticism."

Nope, doesn't have to meet my approval at all, but when you accuse others of having nothing intelligent to say and then post mostly C's & P's, there is a difference, and I think you can see it.
No I am not calling others nicknames, her ID was crow and she calls me extex and says she doesn't care. What's good for her is good for me. I have not noticed the others posting mostly C&P's but I will say the same to them.

I'm not going to beat this dead horse anymore with you Kiara, so this is the last time I will be in this thread.
[ edited by etexbill on Jul 11, 2007 01:47 PM ]
 
 kiara
 
posted on July 11, 2007 02:05:20 PM new




 
 Helenjw
 
posted on July 11, 2007 02:57:33 PM new

History repeats itself.

 
 kiara
 
posted on July 11, 2007 04:42:31 PM new
Yes, history does repeat itself, Helen.

I have not noticed the others posting mostly C&P's but I will say the same to them.

My "Fun Thought" would be to see Etexbill actually noticing the other C&P's and telling them to get a hobby too.





 
 Linda_K
 
posted on July 11, 2007 05:37:56 PM new
yes, kiara ALWAYS has to have the last word. lol lol

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This hwy may end up being a great thing. That way all the illegals can head straight THROUGH from mexico to canada. NON-STOP. I'd like that.

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As I understand this 'super hwy'...it's privately owned. So there shouldn't be much, if any, gov. regulation. So if the owners what to charge a toll fee they have every right to do so.
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It's all mingo has.....OLD, old, old subjects to bring up. Then she can't figure out why few of even her own 'admirers' [like kiara] respond so seldom. lol

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Prison Planet Might be where mingo/crow/sybil posts from????? lol lol





 
 Helenjw
 
posted on July 11, 2007 06:06:53 PM new

Kiara

The "fun thought" remined me of a thread Kraftdinner started several years ago. She questioned why everyone was so angry and if a full moon might be responsible.

Clarksville responded..."There's just no happy threads for us to escape the madness."

Wasn't that precious?

 
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