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 logansdad
 
posted on August 15, 2007 06:29:17 PM new
"His statement said not a word about that is the way his sons supported the troops.
The statement that you yourself posted reads"

I posted one quote from Mitt, but it seems like you did not read up on the entire story ethier.

Here is the question he was aksed:
A voter in Iowa specifically asked Romney, “[H]ow many of your five sons are currently serving in the U.S. military and if none of them are, how do they plan to support this War on Terrorism by enlisting in our U.S. military?”

His response:
My sons are all adults and they've made decisions about their careers and they've chosen not to serve in the military and active duty and I respect their decision in that regard."

He added: "One of the ways my sons are showing support for our nation is helping me get elected because they think I'd be a great president."

So I stand by my original post about how does Mitt's sons following him around on the campaign trail show their support for the military. You can try to spin it any way you want, but it wont work.

I would not call anyone stupid until you stop showing your azz everytime that you post.

Next time do your own research about current events and maybe you would be more informed about what is actually said.









Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on August 15, 2007 06:30:16 PM new
By the way, LD, you didn't answer.

Did you serve? If you are going to put someone else down for not serving, you should be able to answer that one truthfully.

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He can't even support his own argument. NOR answer the 'hard' questions' lol lol put to him.

all can see how many liberals dems VOTED FOR THIS WAR. Give us a list of all their children who served.

[ edited by Linda_K on Aug 15, 2007 06:38 PM ]
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on August 15, 2007 06:36:35 PM new
ROFLOL....shuts him up EVERYTIME.

Ask a question and he RUNS AWAY....
 
 etexbill
 
posted on August 15, 2007 07:50:23 PM new
You yourself posted his answer.
Read and comprehend your own post.

I know exactly what was asked and what his answer was.

You posted his answer.

Read up on conscientious objectors.

Pitiful but hilarious.

By the way, for the third time, did you serve? Don't knock others, if you didn't.
[ edited by etexbill on Aug 15, 2007 07:51 PM ]
 
 etexbill
 
posted on August 15, 2007 07:54:02 PM new
By the way, you originally said he brought it up. Now you truthfully post that he was asked, as I said.

So again, it is NONE of your business.

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on August 15, 2007 07:56:41 PM new
And just to be sure, ld, doesn't miss the FACTS....so he won't REMAIN so ignorant....

I'll post this again. So he can actually LEARN something for a change.


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From the Heritage Foundation:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/cda06-09.cfm

In summary, the additional years of recruit data (2004–2005) sup­port the previous finding that U.S. military recruits are more similar than dissimilar to the American youth population. The slight dif­ferences are that wartime U.S. mil­itary enlistees are better educated, wealthier, and more rural on aver­age than their civilian peers.



Recruits have a higher percent­age of high school graduates and representation from Southern and rural areas. No evidence indicates exploitation of racial minorities (either by race or by race-weighted ZIP code areas).



Finally, the distri­bution of household income of recruits is noticeably higher than that of the entire youth population.


Household Income of Recruits

Like their peers in 1999 and 2003, recruits in 2004 and 2005 came primarily from middle-class areas. Poor areas are proportionally underrepre­sented in the wartime years (2003–2005).

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Now that I have AGAIN taken the time to PROVE to all you haven't a clue, ld.......TRY and educate yourself for a change on some of the other issues you're so ignorant about..



 
 kiara
 
posted on August 15, 2007 08:41:16 PM new
Fewer high-quality Army recruits
As war needs rise, exam scores drop

By Bryan Bender and Kevin Baron, Globe Correspondent | June 1, 2007

WASHINGTON -- The percentage of high-quality recruits entering the Army is the lowest in 10 years, an indication that the force is struggling to attract top-grade enlistees -- and a troubling sign for the Pentagon, which is waging wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and plans to add 90,000 ground troops to its ranks within the next five years.

Last year, nearly 40 percent of those who joined the Army had below-average verbal and math scores on the Armed Forces Qualification Test, a mandatory exam that helps the military determine a recruit's aptitude and mental proficiency. In 2003, the Army accepted only 28.9 percent of the low-scoring recruits, but that percentage gradually began to rise in subsequent years, according to Army statistics.

The data, compiled by the Army Recruiting Command in Fort Knox, Ky., also shows a steady decline in the number of recruits who have graduated from high school. In 2006, nearly one in five incoming soldiers did not have high school diplomas, which the service asserts "is the best single predictor of 'stick-to-it-iveness,' " a highly valued trait.

Before the Iraq war began, the percentage of Army recruits who graduated high school surpassed 90 percent.

The Globe review of Defense Department personnel statistics from 1996 to 2006, including recruits' education levels and their scores on the armed forces entry test, show that the Army is experiencing a downward trend in recruit quality that military analysts suggest will continue for some time.

Below Average Recruits

Lots more in the article, including the truth behind the Heritage Foundation figures.


[ edited by kiara on Aug 15, 2007 08:41 PM ]
 
 etexbill
 
posted on August 16, 2007 08:19:07 AM new
Hey kiara, apparently Canada will be going to war with Russia, (or probably not, they will ask for US help) over the Arctic Region. Either that or your reserves are gone to Russia. Better be concerned with your own country.


Russia plants flag staking claim to Arctic region
Last Updated: Thursday, August 2, 2007 | 12:19 PM ET
CBC News

A mini-submarine dropped a titanium capsule containing a Russian flag on the ocean floor at the North Pole Thursday, in a symbolic claim of the polar region's oil and minerals.

If recognized, the claim would give Russia control of almost half of the Arctic seabed, an area as large as the Prairie provinces that could be abundant in natural resources such as oil and gas.

In this image made from an RTR TV broadcast, a Russian miniature sub is lowered Thursday from a research vessel, moments before diving under the polar ice to drop a capsule holding a Russian flag, staking a symbolic claim to the region's resources.In this image made from an RTR TV broadcast, a Russian miniature sub is lowered Thursday from a research vessel, moments before diving under the polar ice to drop a capsule holding a Russian flag, staking a symbolic claim to the region's resources.


The region is currently divided among Canada, the United States, Norway, Russia and Denmark. Russia is claiming a larger area, saying that the Arctic seabed and Siberia are linked by the same continental shelf. The UN rejected the claim, citing lack of evidence, but the country is set to resubmit the application in 2009.

The Russians are not the only ones eyeing the Arctic seabed. Denmark hopes to prove that the Lomonosov Ridge is an extension of the Danish territory of Greenland, not Russia.

Canada, meanwhile, plans to spend $7.5 billion to build and operate up to eight Arctic patrol ships in a bid to help protect its sovereignty.

Foreign Affairs Minister Peter MacKay said planting a flag will not change the claim to the region.

"There is no question over Canadian sovereignty in the Arctic. We've made that very clear. We established a long time ago that these are Canadian waters and this is Canadian property," MacKay told CBC News.

"You can't go around the world these days dropping a flag somewhere, this isn't the 14th or 15th century. "
With files from the Canadian Press

Better watch out Russia, or Canada will sneeze in your direction. LOL


 
 Linda_K
 
posted on August 16, 2007 09:31:48 AM new
"for US help"

Oh for sure. They can't defend their own interests....it was more important to their liberals to spend most of their money on socialized health care. Not much on their military over my lifetime. tsk tsk tsk

"Canada, meanwhile, plans to spend $7.5 billion to build and operate up to eight Arctic patrol ships in a bid to help protect its sovereignty."

Wonder how long it will take before they're up and ready.



 
 classicrock000
 
posted on August 16, 2007 12:36:31 PM new
arctic patrol??? whos going to invade them,
1 million penquins??





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If you dont want to hear the truth....dont ask the question.
[ edited by classicrock000 on Aug 16, 2007 12:37 PM ]
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on August 16, 2007 12:42:51 PM new
LOL



 
 etexbill
 
posted on August 16, 2007 07:05:34 PM new
Apparently kiara doesn't care. She is more concerned with being a sock puppet to mingo/crow.
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on August 16, 2007 07:11:28 PM new
For sure. She's always needed someone to 'lean' upon, to follow after or expect them to be there to support her juvenile actions. A playmate.
 
 kiara
 
posted on August 16, 2007 08:46:56 PM new



 
 mingotree
 
posted on August 16, 2007 09:12:05 PM new
Linda_K
posted on August 16, 2007 07:11:28 PM
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For sure. She's always needed someone to 'lean' upon, to follow after or expect them to be there to support her juvenile actions. A playmate."""



Oh gosh! You should see the
playmates and leaners in the Five Soldiers Dead thread !!!





 
 classicrock000
 
posted on August 17, 2007 04:52:16 AM new
yea 5 soldiers dead-something you obviously revel in..




and were STILL waiting for LD's response DO YOU EVER SERVE???




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If you dont want to hear the truth....dont ask the question.
[ edited by classicrock000 on Aug 17, 2007 04:54 AM ]
 
 logansdad
 
posted on August 17, 2007 06:46:51 AM new
By the way, LD, you didn't answer. Did you serve? If you are going to put someone else down for not serving, you should be able to answer that one truthfully.

As I said before, this question was answered many years ago. It is not my fault you can not remember the answer that was given.

And as to your service. You did not serve. You can not pretend you served just because your so-called son served.




Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
----------------------------------
The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
 
 logansdad
 
posted on August 17, 2007 06:52:20 AM new
I know exactly what was asked and what his answer was.

It is obvious you didnt, because if you would have read the complete answer to the question that was asked you would have known how he responded to the question. You just based your response to the little bit that was posted here.

By the way, for the third time, did you serve? Don't knock others, if you didn't.
This was answered many years ago. I am sorry you were not around at the time.
And you still havent answered my question for the fifth time as to how Mitt's children riding around in a tour bus helping his daddy get elected is suporting the troops . I don't expect an answer from you on this because you can not given one.







Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
----------------------------------
The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
 
 logansdad
 
posted on August 17, 2007 07:44:31 AM new
From the Heritage Foundation

Oh yes another conservative biased organization. Therefore everything that was posted must be true. Wake up and face reality Linda.







In the long tradition of National Priorities Project turning data into action, NPP releases today a major expansion of the NPP Database. With the addition of military recruitment data, we're once again highlighting the cost of war and militarism on local communities.

As of today, from anywhere in the country, you can find out the number of military recruits in 2004 that came from your high school, zip code, county or your state, along with breakdowns by race, ethnicity, gender and income levels. Get your local numbers at: www.nationalpriorities.org/database.

To get a snapshot overview and analysis of the military recruitment data, which includes tables and charts, go to www.nationalpriorities.org/militaryrecruitment.

Working with Peacework Magazine (www.afsc.org/peacework), which submitted the Freedom of Information Act request for military enlistment data, NPP's analyses reveal the disproportionate impact of military recruitment on low and middle-income communities.

The data also show:
The highest recruitment rates -- defined as the number of recruits per thousand of the 18-24 year-old population -- were found in counties that were relatively poorer than the rest of the nation. All of the top 20 counties had median household incomes below the national level, and 19 of the 20 had median household incomes below their respective state level.
The three largest schools or programs in the country from which recruits were drawn included the GED Test Center in the New York State Education Department, the Gary Job Corps Center in San Marcos, Texas and another GED-based program in New York.
Montana -- a state with low median household income and high poverty rates -- led the country in state recruitment rates. Rhode Island was at the bottom.
High income neighborhoods are under-represented. Low and middle-income neighborhoods are over-represented.





In 1987, the latest year available for the CBO study, about 45 percent of those entering active duty as enlisted personnel came from areas with above-average family incomes, and 55 percent from below-average areas (see the table on page 3). ("Average" is defined here as the median of the home
areas of all enlistment-age youth.) A young man from a community with family incomes 20 percent below the average was only slightly more likely to enlist than one from an area with incomes 20 percent above average. Only
at the very upper end of the income scale was a substantial difference apparent: the 10 percent of American youth living in the country's richest communities were about half as likely to enlist in the military as the 10 percent of youth from the poorest communities.



Military recruits mirror the racial mix of the youth population less accurately than they do the socioeconomic mix. Racial minority groups continue to be overrepresented among recent recruits, as has been true through most of the period of the volunteer military. Blacks accounted for roughly 22 percent of active-duty recruits in 1989, compared with about 14 percent of enlistment-age youth (see the table on page 3). For the Army, blacks accounted for better than one recruit in four. Racial differences in enlistment rates were greatest for females; young black women were more than twice as likely to enlist as their white counterparts.
What will be the racial mix among U.S. casualties in the Persian Gulf war? Compared with their share of the general population, blacks may well be overrepresented among the casualties, simply because they are overrepresented in the military in general and the Army in particular. In today's Army, however, blacks are not disproportionately represented in combat occupations, as may have been the case during the early years of the Vietnam conflict.


Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
 
 etexbill
 
posted on August 17, 2007 08:00:21 AM new
You received the answer long ago, but are too dense to get it.



 
 etexbill
 
posted on August 17, 2007 08:03:03 AM new
"He can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any man I know."
-- Abraham Lincoln

LD, this fits you exactly.

Nope I wasn't around when you answered the "did you serve question". Shame you won't answer again. A simple yes or no will do.


 
 Linda_K
 
posted on August 17, 2007 08:17:54 AM new
I think he's ashamed to admit he didn't. Otherwise he'd be PROUD of giving service to our Nation.

I was just hoping he'd answer you in the same way he did the first time. But I can understand why he would not want to now. He couldn't have been proud of what he DID say then. tsk tsk tsk.

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Hey, ld....Heritage Foundation has updated their site and stats.....they're still pretty much the same. And just FYI our MILITARY isn't republican or democratic. So there'd be NO reason to misrepresent the FACTS. lol Unless you're saying the STATS are lies. LOL LOL LOL I know, TRUTH, is such a 'cross' for liberals.

And I notice you're too embarrassed to let others know WHERE your lol - info came from.
Numbers can always be 'twisted' and the Heritage Fndn has a GREAT reputation....does the site you took your info from????? LOL


Always hiding something.....that's SO liberal. SHAME rules your behavior.

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Biden, running for CIC for the dem/liberal party said he doesn't want HIS son to be sent to Iraq.

A lib/dem who voted FOR THE WAR...and continues voting TO CONTINUE FUNDING.

Not HIS son. And his son VOLUNTEERED to serve.

Kind of like the liberal positions of 'not in MY backyard'. tsk tsk tsk

Hope HE doesn't win you party's nomination.....a CIC who doesn't want HIS son serving.tells us how HE wouldn't EVER protect our nation....not as long as HIS son was serving. Biden's just another sheehan.

 
 logansdad
 
posted on August 17, 2007 11:45:17 AM new
I think he's ashamed to admit he didn't. Otherwise he'd be PROUD of giving service to our Nation.

I dont need to tell you anything in order to feel proud.


I bet Linda is so proud of her service. I bet she showed how much she supported the troops through her service (of them).









Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
----------------------------------
The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
 
 logansdad
 
posted on August 17, 2007 11:47:07 AM new
and were STILL waiting for LD's response DO YOU EVER SERVE???

You were around when the answer was given.
Still disappointed you never made it to "Rear Admiral".


Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
----------------------------------
The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
 
 classicrock000
 
posted on August 17, 2007 12:35:48 PM new
Actually I was not around-however instead of being the chickensh*t that you are repeat for us.




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If you dont want to hear the truth....dont ask the question.
 
 logansdad
 
posted on August 17, 2007 12:42:50 PM new
And I notice you're too embarrassed to let others know WHERE your lol - info came from

How come all of sudden you do not know how to google your own information. There is enough information for you to do your own research to find out where I got my info from. You are just being very lazy again.

And just FYI our MILITARY isn't republican or democratic. So there'd be NO reason to misrepresent the FACTS.

And neither are any scientific research companies that do research about global warming. However when you have political interest groups that contribute money to the reserach, the results can be manipulated.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
----------------------------------
The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
 
 logansdad
 
posted on August 17, 2007 12:47:39 PM new
Actually I was not around-however instead of being the chickensh*t that you are repeat for us.

Actually you were because you even asked which branch I was in. Your memory is going just like Linda's.

Isn't it time for you go and swab a poop deck before going out and trying to turn men on while in your sailor uniform, Mr. seamen first class.




Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
----------------------------------
The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
 
 classicrock000
 
posted on August 17, 2007 12:52:57 PM new
Yes I did ask what branch you were in,but you NEVER answered me.


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If you dont want to hear the truth....dont ask the question.
 
 classicrock000
 
posted on August 17, 2007 01:13:06 PM new
well I've been waiting here and still got no response...I guess the chickensh*t disappeared again





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If you dont want to hear the truth....dont ask the question.
[ edited by classicrock000 on Aug 17, 2007 01:13 PM ]
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on August 17, 2007 01:17:02 PM new
Again, we see ld's double standards.


He asks MY age....lol...after lying about me collecting SS....but HE won't answer questions.


hmmmmmm
 
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