posted on January 18, 2008 08:48:58 PM new
There's no doubt about the effects of alcohol and the number of lives it has adversely affected. The difference, and it's a big one, is that while there are millions of people who consume but do not abuse alcohol, by all expert measures this isn't possible with meth. On one hand, my gut feeling tells me that we should legalize the whole shootin' match and help those who want to be helped and make it easier for those who are bent on self destruction to expedite the process. One the other hand, with meth I'm just not so sure yet. Meth makes virtually no allowances for those who make the mistake of trying it and change their minds.
posted on January 18, 2008 08:51:08 PM new
Meth behavior goes beyond alcohol behavior. Both are bad. Many of the meth houses in Portland, OR also house small children, exposing them to deadly chemicals. While I can tolerate the legalization of some drugs, I can't see why meth should be included.
posted on January 19, 2008 05:56:37 AM new "Meth behavior goes beyond alcohol behavior. Both are bad. Many of the meth houses in Portland, OR also house small children, exposing them to deadly chemicals. While I can tolerate the legalization of some drugs, I can't see why meth should be included."
Pixiamom, I certainly appreciate the individual harm that a drug like meth entails and especially the problems related to it's production. Alcohol causes more deaths, more violence, more fires, and ruins more lives than Meth. But since alcohol is legal, the manufacture, sale and distribution is controlled. Such control of meth manufacture, sale and distribution would reduce the number of fires associated with it's manufacture and reduce the number of small children that you mentioned being exposed to "deadly chemicals".
Right now there is NO effective control of meth labs which proliferate unchecked. As Spanger points out, with government control of production most dangerous meth labs will essentially be out of business and affordable treatment will be available to those affected by the drug.
Legalization will afford major benefits. But maintaining a corrupt and ineffective war against drugs offers no solution whatsoever.
posted on January 22, 2008 03:25:35 PM new
Today, The Atlantic made all issues for the last 12 years available to everyone...no subscription required. Earlier in this thread I wanted to post their article on the Prison Complex but at that time a suscription was required. Now, anyone can read it here. This article is especially interesting.
posted on January 24, 2008 02:04:09 PM new
Never had to take a urine test, I am of the mind I'd tell them to take a hike if they wanted one. 45 or more years and no testing--those are work years, this old man ain't about to take any crap now.
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posted on January 24, 2008 02:17:49 PM new
Thanks Pix, been a while, kinda retired from selling at ebay for a while but do have some stuff I want to put on but waiting for right time if there is one.
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posted on January 24, 2008 03:33:30 PM new
Might be a good time to start eBay again. eBay is expected to announce a new fee structure next week with reduced listing fees.
posted on January 26, 2008 12:01:05 AM new
Meth, heroin and coke they all kill a certain percentage. Tobacco knocks of more people than all the aforementioned, I suspect. They have no problem with you smoking yourself to death, so why bother with legislation banning any other drug, if it truly was a concern they would stop selling anything deleterious to ones health.
You hear more about meth because it is the focus of their attention at the moment. But does society as a whole benefit from the legalization of these black market drugs. Did prohibition solve the problems of alcohol in society? Did it create a thriving criminal enterprise of vast proportions? Did it stop the consumption of alcohol? You be the judge!
[ edited by hillbillymo on Jan 26, 2008 12:19 AM ]
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