posted on April 16, 2001 09:07:18 AM
Mr Potatheadd- Do you have permission to use that image from "Strange Brew" in your auctions and "About Me" page?
Spaz and all you self-righteous harda**es-
The point in this thread is not whether she is right or wrong but why eBay does not enforce a consistent standard. I had a similar situation where someone was reporting me for selling "drug paraphenalia" and eBay cancelled my auctions. I contacted Safeharbour with links to government sites. No problem. I reported others selling identical items and received a response that these fell within eBays guidelines. I then responded asking why it was O.K. for others but no for me and that the response would be forwarded to my attorney for review. I honestly expected eBay to stop the other auctions but Lo and Behold!, they said they were wrong in cancelling my auctions!
Now, we all know it is wrong to sell copyright infringed products, but it is wrong for EVERYONE, not just a select few. THAT IS THE POINT! eBay should enforce all complaints by applying consistent standards.
posted on April 16, 2001 09:10:33 AM
zoomin: Hmmmm..... I see your point. So it bothers us that the wrong doer has no remorse? I would agree with that! I guess I missed that "take" when I read her post. (mainly because she stated that she wasn't here for discussing whether she broke the law or not - and that fact seemed so obvious that it wasn't worth 'discussing' anyway) I definitely do NOT excuse breaking the law, but perhaps it appeared that way when I dismissed that factor completely (even stated that eBay and VEROS have the responsibiliy to protect against those types of violations) and focused on the TOPIC of this thread.... "seller discrimination".
It bothers me most that the so called SafeHarbor Department and VERO programs can't recognize identicle wrongness and act accordingly.
And... since the copy-cat competitor is STILL peddling FAKES on eBay... I don't really care what the motivation is behind TabithaElaine's desire to have them stopped... so long as what has been noted as a VERO VIOLATION in one instance, is ALSO recognized for what it IS regarding the other seller.
I've been trying to address the TOPIC... not the moralness of the originator... OR other posters, for that matter. *sigh*
posted on April 16, 2001 09:20:57 AM"It bothers me most that the so calledSafeHarbor Department and VEROprograms can't recognize identiclewrongness and act accordingly."
Yes, Dottie...I see your point, and I agree. And I've always abhorred eBay's insidious little policy of encouraging us to do their work for them, and busily spend our time snitching on one another.
posted on April 16, 2001 09:47:44 AM
My, but we're busy bees this morning...
Mr Potatheadd- Do you have permission to use that image from "Strange Brew" in your auctions and "About Me" page?
Funny you should ask- I inquired about wanting to use the image that I currently have on my "About Me" page some time ago, and the response I received was "Go ahead".
As to my auctions, I don't know what you're talking about (and apparently, neither do you), since that image appears in none of them. I don't know why your attempt to make your point would have been any less successful had you stuck to the facts, and resisted the urge to exaggerate.
posted on April 16, 2001 10:26:23 AM
My husband owns a screen printing company and quite often we are asked to print copyrighted materials. Our answer is always the same: NO
The person who wrote the music originally owns the music. Just because it only appeared on a movie and not a CD does not give anyone the right to put it on a CD. Perhaps they are planning to put out a CD in the future - perhaps they do not want a CD to be out there. Whatever their reasons for not putting out a CD, it is their choice and theirs alone.
When selling on eBay, it is better to come up with your own concept, then you will have VERO rights to it. AND you will be pleasantly surprised to see what people are willing to spend money for!
posted on April 16, 2001 10:55:09 AM
Ethically and legally, you were off the mark. C.S. Lewis once wrote that no matter how you prepare a rotten egg, it still doesn't change the fact that it's rotten.
As to being treated unfairly, I would say that eBay has been less than evenhanded and has done a poor job of keeping the site a level playing field.
I would apply your marketing talent into something that doesn't get you into hotwater. Doing the right thing in the right way pays off better in the long run. Good luck!