posted on June 25, 2001 04:38:27 AM new
JOECOOL123: You said you sold the lawn darts 3 times in 6 months, I think the important question is whether you were ever warned by ebay after the first 2 auctions that lawn darts were not kosher? If a seller is given fair warning before being suspended then I don't the seller has any leg to stand on, however if this is the first that you have heard from ebay I think that a warning instead of a suspension would have been in order. I have had auctions yanked by Safeharbor in the past but they always emailed and told me WHY they were removed and I never did the offense again - if I decided to ignore the warning and list more auctions with the same offense then I would expect to be suspended.
posted on June 25, 2001 05:33:50 AM new
The trouble is kids take one look at these things and instinctively they are not for grass - they are suitable for small game and brothers.
I had a bow and arrow set with steel target points when I was about 10 but would not play with the other kids in the neighborhood because when they got bored they would shoot arrows straight up in the air to see who was chicken and who would stand and wait to see how close it came down. I still can't believe none of them ever ended up with an arrow down through his skull. Even at that age I knew I was not immortal.
posted on June 25, 2001 10:51:52 AM new
"I was going to put up a velcro dart board tonight."
I was going to list a bottle of "White Out" (I don't make mistakes so I don't need it!), but I found out it is listed as a hazardous product. I think the "hazard" relates to the potential damage that could result if a 500 pound crate of this stuff fell on your foot, but ... I'd rather be safe than sorry.
"Now I am having second thoughts....."
Me too ...
So, now that lawn darts aren't allowed by the Feds or eBay, how about UZI's, AK-47's, TOW missile launchers, and Plazma Guns? These things are still allowed for personal protection devices in the USA aren't they?
I saw a Russian MiG listed on eBay once that wasn't ended early (nobody coule afford it tho) ...
"Well, I guess that's pretty funny, but I live with the memory of a friend's little boy with a jart in his head."
I heard about a kid who was playing in a cardboard box and suffrocated. Now what am I supposed to ship my stuff in
And those plastic dry cleaning bags? Bad, bad, BAD stuff.
I shudder when I think of all the injuries being caused by kids playing with bicycles and roller blades these days. Where do I send my petition to have these things banned? While I'm at it, I think I'll lobby for an end to all contact sports like hockey and football. And golf --- those little balls can really hurt.
Damn, if I had my way I'd put all of you Paramedics out of the hurt kids biz
But, unfortunately, I live in the real world and don't have time to worry about all this type of nonsense. There's enough "real" things to worry about without having to make stuff up.
If your kid came to you and asked you for a set of lawn darts (real ones that actually stick into the ground when they land) or a joint s/he could smoke while safely playing Nintendo, which one would you prefer s/he had?
"I still can't believe none of them ever ended up with an arrow down through his skull. Even at that age I knew I was not immortal."
That pretty well sums it up doesn't it. I survived, you survived, and I can't think of any of my childhood friends who didn't survive as a result of playing with "hazardous" toys.
So, what's the problem now???
I do agree that the lack (inability because both parents have to work to survive?) may have something to do with this, but my Mom never knew what I was doing with my chemistry set in the basement. (anyone remember chemistry sets before they were banned by some candya$$ politician?).
I think today's politicans are a bunch of wimps
[ edited by RB on Jun 25, 2001 10:55 AM ]
[ edited by RB on Jun 25, 2001 11:08 AM ]
posted on June 25, 2001 12:24:59 PM new
Try writing to Safe Harbor and ask why you were suspended when when the following auctions for the darts are still running (and include the auction numbers in question). Also, let SH know that they are also known as "jarts" so they can do a better job of policing this banned item. Since they ARE federally banned (whether or not people think that's justified), you could probably get in big trouble if you sell them anywhere--and you might figure in a lawsuit if anything happens while they're being played with.
posted on June 25, 2001 02:03:30 PM new
Speaking of federal law, Lockhorns cartoons are copyrighed and AW's moderators ought to be more particular.
I think we should have bans on federal bans. When I grew up, parents decided as to what their children played with and supervised them as to their proper use. Children die every day from perfectly legal items. More are lost from football games than firearms, but you don't see anyone rushing to ban high school football.
Federal intrusions are only welcomed by unthinking people expecting a completely safe and risk-free society which in turn becomes more dangerous than the unregulated one.
posted on June 25, 2001 04:18:40 PM new
RB, I agree with you 100%. I'm going over to Yahoo auctions to sell lawn darts in the future. They don't seem to have a problem, just did a search and came up with over 30 auction listings.
posted on June 25, 2001 04:46:38 PM new
Right on Joe
When my sons were young, their Grampie bought a set of real lawn darts to play when we went out to visit him in the country. My boys loved those darts and never once had an injury. They never hit anyone with a horseshoe when playing that game either.
You are sure to make someone happy with these ... good luck
PS - By sons are now grown. They have gone though all the phases of competitive (AAA) hockey and never died. The only thing they do now that might cause injury if we don't supverise them (!) is contact golf and bowling (they bowl overhand!).
posted on June 25, 2001 05:55:36 PM new
After just checking on ebay, only one Jart sale is still running, a powerseller. The others have all been ended.
there is one other but it is clearly not a jart game.
posted on June 25, 2001 07:48:39 PM new
I just checked and found a few jart sets. I don't know alot about them.
One said the tips were not on it, as they were not allowed per ebay, then added to his auction later, that ebay had said if it was sold for a collection, not to be played with the tips could be included. (Not the exact wording).
posted on June 25, 2001 08:01:41 PM new
Heheheh...I used to like playing with those things. You could make up your own games. I'd tell my little brother that he'd have to block it from hitting the circle or I win.
