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 chococake
 
posted on December 1, 2000 07:13:07 PM
If he is president we will have to listen to that hollow, phoney, snicker type laugh over and over. He does it everytime he's asked a question he can't answer.

I was really happy to see so many people wanting to get into the Supreme Court, especially young people. They waited a long time in the cold just to be able to observe for a few minutes. At least this sordid affair got people interested in our government.

Oh, speaking of affairs has anyone heard about Newsweek tracking down a story that Jeb and K. Harris are having a hot love affair?

 
 CleverGirl
 
posted on December 1, 2000 07:49:19 PM
SilkMoth THANKS!!!! That was definitely unedited. It included much more than I saw previously. Unfortunately, the teensy pop-up screen showed too little of his facial reaction on that last question (or is that my computer's problem??). It was so choice. He'd better get used to tough questions. Once a month or so somebody in the press actually gets around to lobbing one.

I also got a huge kick out of his answer to the question about the "criticism" that his legal team was "trying to run out the clock." Remember? We won on Election night, we won the recount, yadayada. Amazing. Hand that man a script and as long as it's not longer than a few words, he can, by God, use it pretty creatively. Never mind that it might be inappropriate, have absolutely nothing to do with the question, or sound just plain silly. Ohhh, the late night comedians are going to have a field day if he wins.

 
 FrannyS
 
posted on December 1, 2000 08:21:09 PM
What I find very scarey is that yes, people DID vote for him. I dont get it. WHY???

 
 krs
 
posted on December 1, 2000 08:32:34 PM
chocolate,

That's called THE RUMOR and the "talk of a possible future story about them in Newsweek has created a buzz from the desks of
The New York Observer to the microphones of KGO Radio in San Francisco".

 
 chococake
 
posted on December 1, 2000 08:46:01 PM
krs - LOL yes, I heard it on KGO. If you listen to that station (especially Ray T) you know how they can blow things out of proportion. To hear Ray tell it Gore will be president any day now.

If the rumor is true I don't think many people would be suprised. Probably a lot of people would like it to be true. That would really be good gossip!

 
 krs
 
posted on December 1, 2000 09:06:27 PM
It probably is true. Naked partisanship.

 
 donny
 
posted on December 1, 2000 10:42:43 PM
Groan.

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"At least this sordid affair got people interested in our government"

I don't know, is this going to be one of the results of this, or is it going to go in the other direction? Are people going to be so turned off by this thing that they're withdraw from participation? This all has sparked our interest, and the interest of the media's political and legal analysts, but we, and they, were already interested in stuff like this. A few times I've seen the cable stations talk to "regular people" on the street who say that they've come to believe that their vote doesn't count, they're never going to vote again, etc. etc. If this is really what a large number of people are getting out of this, it's good news for the Republican party. Hard to tell, until at least the next elections, and maybe hard to tell until longer than that, if that's really been a consequence of all this, or if these are just a couple of people that cable news guys had to search long and hard to find.




 
 chococake
 
posted on December 1, 2000 11:07:29 PM
donny - maybe some adults have been turned off by it, but I still think it's been good for kids. I was in a deli the other day, and a small group of teenagers were having an intelligent conversation about politics.

A friend of mine has a daughter 12 years old and she has actually been reading the newspaper and asking questions. Teachers are saying students are really involved in heated discussions in class about the political parties.

These are future voters who before this could care less and would say politics were boring. So I don't think it's all bad.

 
 donny
 
posted on December 2, 2000 12:21:49 AM
Yup, could be that the younger people are viewing politics as more exciting than they realized, and look forward to being a part of it.

Maybe I'm just projecting. Me, I've always found politics interesting, but in the way I find a car wreck interesting, like to look, but don't want to be involved beyond that, and what I've gotten from this is big doses of the hypocrisy that's always present, but usually better concealed than politicians on either side have concealed it lately. Happily for politicians, most people only see hypocrisy on one side, no matter how plainly each side shows it.
 
 krs
 
posted on December 2, 2000 12:30:16 AM
Yeah, it's fun when it's like this, but most of it is demographics and the predictions that can be derived from the data compiled. Comparing population shifts, economic factors, and past election results in order to try to obtain ahead of an election what characteristics in candidates and issues might succeed in present or near future elections is flat boring in my opinion, but that's why they persist in calling the study of politics a science.

This one has all of the high drama and character development of a television mini-series and I think that that is what's caught kid's attention right now.

It'll pass; even pokeyman cards pass.

 
 chococake
 
posted on December 2, 2000 12:59:02 AM
You're right krs that's what got their attention. Don't you agree getting their attention is the hard part? But, now it's got them thinking, discussing, and communicating with parents, teachers and their peers.

Sure when it's over it will be forgotten and we will all move on to something else. There will always be a new mini series.

 
 Zazzie
 
posted on December 2, 2000 01:03:52 AM
Sure the high drama will pass---but 8-12 years down the road--those kids will remember the names of ALL the Pokemon characters----and will remember the drama of this election when it is time for them to cast their first ballot.
 
 donny
 
posted on December 2, 2000 01:46:39 AM
Studying which characteristics might appeal to the public boring? Not at all. It's just that sort of study that led to last week's Malthusian proliferation of flags, the most surreal and perfect aspect of this whole thing.
 
 krs
 
posted on December 2, 2000 07:22:09 AM
That flag nonsense was child's play. It was so ridiculously obvious that I wondered at the caliber of people each of them employ. Or what is their perception of the sophistication of the voting public. Which one will be first to employ fireworks and scantily clad bimbos in red white and blue bikinis ala Apollo Creed in "Rocky"?

 
 KatyD
 
posted on December 2, 2000 07:34:37 AM
Of course it will be Dubya, krs. Tipper would never allow it.

KatyD

 
 CleverGirl
 
posted on December 2, 2000 09:59:01 AM
Donny -- I think there are many more people who have been energized instead of turned off. We ALL know that our votes *should* count, and some of us are vowing to make sure ever after that by gum they WILL count. I'd suspect especially residents of Palm Beach County, Florida.

There are also people across the country who are aghast that the Florida legislature is contemplating wresting the *vote* away from the *voters* and choosing the electors and therefore the President of the United States themselves, and will be seeing to it that some changes are made in the future.

I noted with some interest in something I read the other day that there are some 500,000 more registered Democrats in FL than Republicans.

edited: typo

[ edited by CleverGirl on Dec 2, 2000 10:01 AM ]
 
 brighid868
 
posted on December 2, 2000 10:35:59 AM
I never thought I'd say this, but is there any way we can get Dole as a last minute substitute for dimwitted Bush? maybe we can agree to get Gore to give up the battle if we swap candidates. I would take Dole over these two clowns. And I voted for Nader so you know I'm as far from a Republican as you can possibly be.

If we must have a Republican, let's at least have a smart one. Not to mention that after his treatment with Viagra, I bet he's a lot less grumpy.

 
 krs
 
posted on December 2, 2000 10:53:31 AM
By Florida law, the real results WILL be known. It's just a matter of when.

http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/12/01/vote/index.html

 
 uaru
 
posted on December 2, 2000 11:10:37 AM
krs By Florida law, the real results WILL be known.

Don't kid yourself. There will be countless books on the Florida 2000 Election Conspiracy, I'm sure writers are working on it now. They'll have ballots found on a 'grassy knoll', and the 'one ballot theory' for all that want to read on conspiracies, real or otherwise.

People will believe the reports that support their belief, they always have and always will. As wierd and fantastic as the reason behind Wm Hickley's assasination attempt on Regan it would have paled in comparison to any conspiracies that writers would have offered if Hinckley had been unable to give his version. Many Americans prefer a conspiracy theory over the fact.

In 2 months you'll be able to purchase "The Dimple Conspiracy" on Amazon and in 6 months it will be on eBay. The results of the undervotes will always be subjective, people unlike machines will produce basied results.




 
 krs
 
posted on December 2, 2000 11:43:34 AM
weird, not wierd.


(do all republicans have the inability to grasp the i before e rules, or does force of habit affect their spelling when using words that contain the two? Hiel!)

[ edited by krs on Dec 2, 2000 11:48 AM ]
 
 krs
 
posted on December 2, 2000 11:45:20 AM
uaru,

Did you know that Neil (not Niel) Bush is an associate of Scott Hinkley, brother of....

 
 boysmommy3
 
posted on December 2, 2000 03:44:43 PM
Why do they keep GW Stashed on the ranch?

So he won't go out and get an ounce in his time of need. That and so when he puts back a few - he won't be allowed to drive. Well... there is always the tractors on the farm.

He finds the governor's mansion to tedious and stressful - but we want him running the country - his answer to stress well into his thirties was cocaine and alcohol.

Yippeee - once again skipping for joy at the prospect of georgie porgie heading for the white house - just hoping his fingers stay out of the pie....
 
 femme
 
posted on December 2, 2000 04:35:11 PM

Oh, good heavens.

I just followed CleverGirl's Bushisms link on page 2.

I have to read it in stages. Can only take so much of that at one time.

"More and more of our imports come from overseas".

What next? More and more of our exports go overseas?

And this will be our representative to the world?


[ edited by femme on Dec 2, 2000 04:50 PM ]
 
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