kitsch1
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posted on December 9, 2000 04:07:42 PM
no, but cows do if you don't get a clean kill. Deer scream.
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Muriel
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posted on December 9, 2000 04:15:46 PM
I just don't understand why men can't find a better way to prove their manhood than by shooting defenseless animals. What does that prove? That you can drink beer and shoot straight, and therefore you are a true MAN? Anyone who is capable of killing an animal is also capable of killing a human being. And that scares me. I live in a part of Ohio where a bunch of rednecks are running around with three teeth in their mouths, and a shotgun in their hands, having a whooping good time shooting at deer. It drives me nuts. GO WATCH FOOTBALL!! 
[ edited by Muriel on Dec 9, 2000 04:16 PM ]
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kitsch1
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posted on December 9, 2000 04:19:29 PM
muriel do you enjoy your steak rare or medium?
Kinda freaky this....... I'm seeing someone talk about killing cats for fun and it is overlooked. The hunting for deer steak is hammered to (pardon me) death
[ edited by kitsch1 on Dec 9, 2000 04:22 PM ]
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Shadowcat
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posted on December 9, 2000 04:24:21 PM
The elder kitten mentioned Swift's "A Modest Proposal"...
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krs
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posted on December 9, 2000 04:26:26 PM
If it could, your cat would rip out your throat and fiest on your liver.
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Shadowcat
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posted on December 9, 2000 04:26:29 PM
No, Kel, I saw that, too. I hope he was joking. If he wasn't, I hope he gets help yesterday.
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kitsch1
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posted on December 9, 2000 04:34:04 PM
If you eat steak and despise hunting because of the cruelty I have a tale to tell.
It's a true tale.
A bull supposedly dead from the electrical shock given, oh prolly up the corn hole. Not sure where they administer it now. Anwho lets call the bull a cute name to further endear him to our audience.........
Buford, after being trucked in and prodded for days and days and days.............. and days
arrives at his new home. "the plant" he has been shocked in some orifice or another until the plant operators are sure he is dead.
They then attach Buford to a meat hook.
Buford the bull wakes up to excruciating pain. Finds himself dangling on a hook high up in the air.
Buford by struggling RIPS himself loose and frightens all the people in the area.
Poor Buford, they shot him and took him down, but what a hard death.
Again I say have a hamburger, or steak, or a pork chop and continue griping about the bad bad hunters
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FrannyS
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posted on December 9, 2000 04:39:49 PM
Think I will turn into a vegetarian. What a wonderful discussion. Thrilling.
Yeah yeah. I know. Why am I reading it? Blame it on the flu. Im outta here.
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kitsch1
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posted on December 9, 2000 04:41:26 PM
Ken, I know this about cats. Woooohooooo. Animal instinct in action. Best to avoid this by not offering them such an opportunity.
I was just thinkin about meat eating humans who abhor hunters or animal butcherers and the like. You eat it but cant kill it. Kinda makes you
vultures?
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kitsch1
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posted on December 9, 2000 04:45:29 PM
Truth hurts
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herself
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posted on December 9, 2000 05:21:42 PM
My cat has had plenty of chances and hasn't done it yet...
When I bang into the darn coffee table it hurts...
Poor table...
Har! Har!
S-kitty...plenty of two-legged critters are getting killed...
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marwin
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posted on December 9, 2000 06:37:10 PM
[ edited by marwin on Dec 24, 2000 09:30 AM ]
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Shadowcat
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posted on December 9, 2000 07:04:04 PM
Herself: You'd think that, wouldn't you, considering the way the news reports seem to be filled with death. But the fact is the population growth markedly outpaces the death rate. With the sharp increase in the amount of people comes the resulting problems: how will they be fed and watered? And will there be enough food and water for everyone? Neither are infinite. Something will have to give.
But I think the point Marwin is trying to make is how easy humans find to justify killing other living beings. As long as a group of humans see everyone outside their group as "not-us", they will be able to rationalize doing things to the "not-us" people that they would never do to each other. History is filled with examples of that thinking. Marwin has simply expanded that thought to include animals. He's just expanded that thought to cover animals(However, if he was going to be consistent, he'd have to include plants as well, since they are also living things).
I also think, though, he's looking at it from the Western attitude towards animals. There are some countries that consider cats and dogs mighty fine eating and have no qualms about taking out Fluffy or Rover.
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kitsch1
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posted on December 9, 2000 07:10:17 PM
Marwin
Simple question. To you eat the flesh of dead animals or no?
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marwin
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posted on December 9, 2000 07:11:44 PM
[ edited by marwin on Dec 24, 2000 09:30 AM ]
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krs
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posted on December 9, 2000 07:15:27 PM
A cow is not us.
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kitsch1
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posted on December 9, 2000 07:24:48 PM
Marwin,
If you have a case against a particualr kind of "hunter", say like.....the rich ones who go out for a day on a big spread in TX and kill animals let out of a cage dazed, confused and out of their element then I'm all over that argument. That kind of "hunting" is sickening.
If that was your argument you could help yourself and others by stating that.
But if you eat dead flesh and are painting all hunters as evil then you deserve the name of buzzard. (a meat eater who eats animals already dead) and whines about the ones who kill it.
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toomanycomics
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posted on December 9, 2000 07:25:11 PM
I let the hunters in that kill in order to eat meat
I don't let the hunters in that kill just for the fun of it.
if you kill my dog/cat, then immediately put it out of its misery instead of laughing at or getting off on its pain.
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toomanycomics
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posted on December 9, 2000 07:26:37 PM
krs no, but we are sheep at times....
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marwin
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posted on December 9, 2000 07:26:59 PM
[ edited by marwin on Dec 24, 2000 09:31 AM ]
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kitsch1
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posted on December 9, 2000 07:29:37 PM
cool, thank you for answering
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Shadowcat
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posted on December 9, 2000 07:37:45 PM
KRS: Cows probably think the same about humans.
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fastback4
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posted on December 9, 2000 07:43:03 PM
In 1999 a deer (a BUCK) jumped onto the expressway from an overpass and through my van window killing my 3yr old son.....Nature sucks big one's.........merry x-mas
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stusi
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posted on December 9, 2000 07:51:56 PM
mrpotatohead- there are thousands of people(many veterans, crime victims etc.) walking around with scalp wounds(now scars) from poorly aimed attempts on their lives. dozens with bullets lodged in their skulls from the same. not every hunter is an expert marksman and there must be thousands of deer etc. with serious wounds that escape a second deadly shot and are left to suffer a painful slow death or existence.
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kitsch1
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posted on December 9, 2000 08:00:27 PM
I'm very sorry fastback 
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stockticker
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posted on December 9, 2000 08:03:10 PM
Kel... Do a site search for Fastback's other posts.
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mrpotatoheadd
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posted on December 9, 2000 08:03:42 PM
stusi-
I don't doubt that there are such. My question was regarding the statement that there were "large numbers" of them, what those numbers might be, and if there might be a source for those statistics.
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krs
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posted on December 9, 2000 08:03:43 PM
[ edited by krs on Dec 9, 2000 10:35 PM ]
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kitsch1
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posted on December 9, 2000 08:05:51 PM
FASTBACK, Was that some kind of nasty joke???????
Is it? If so, it is absolutely disgusting
[ edited by kitsch1 on Dec 9, 2000 08:08 PM ]
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krs
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posted on December 9, 2000 08:08:14 PM
sick too Kel.
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