posted on February 2, 2002 12:41:53 AM new
nycyn, you did list the auction #'s here yesterday so anyone here or any lurker could have gotten them easily, including the ones on hallucinogens.
ebay works like this: You bid. You buy. If you don't like it you may have a good seller that will take a return. That is exactly what has happened to you.
Yet you come here and throw your temper tantrum over three pages.
Did you expect the pitcher and bowl to be full sized? Did you expect the ashtray to have belonged to the real (President) Kennedy family? How about tossing some office supplies in it, maybe an eraser and some paper clips, and then just smile at yourself each time you see it on your desk. Life goes on.
posted on February 2, 2002 05:17:06 AM new
let's put the real reason she's upset out here.
she thought she was getting a real Kennedy piece and a Slag Glass pitcher and bowl for a total of $16.00.
if true, that would have been robbery without a weapon.
Real slag glass items are highly collectible and any seller of collectibles or antiques knows it.
in the meantime, you have wasted much more than $16.00 of your PRECIOUS time whining on this board.
after seeing the attitude you have put forth here, not only have I blocked you as a bidder, i have also put you on my watched seller list to make sure I don't accidentally bid on one of your auctions.
posted on February 2, 2002 05:31:31 AM new
The auction title DID say KENNEDY & when I first looked at the ad, I expected a piece of political memorabilia!
Misrepresentation? I don't know! I don't think anybody CAN know!
THE POINT IS: negs were thrown about without ANY attempt at resolution!
posted on February 2, 2002 08:27:23 AM new
Here is what I find funny...
NYCYN said "(Leaving for real, trying to learn from some of the, um, bigger boys than me in this thread.)"
She said she was "leaving" several times and yet she keeps coming back. I guess to learn from the "bigger boys"?
Much ado about almost nothing. And her attitude is awful!
posted on February 2, 2002 08:42:12 AM new
I'm still shocked that this appears to be a seller with very high feedback who neglected to mention details. The only thing in the seller's favor is that they admit it and would attempt to make good on it.
The problem is that a seller cannot expect a second chance. What the average seller doesn't seem to get is that you are really not selling on eBay, you are selling in the open marketplace. Your competition is everybody. I think that one of the reasons that eBay seems to have lost it's appeal to many buyers is just the sort of less than professional attitude on the part of sellers. They do not put themselves in the buyer's seat to make certain everything is covered.
I completely agree with nycyn for the right to neg and vent. At best, a refund would not have made me not neg the seller anyway. Unfortunately too many sellers have responded by pilloring the buyer and that's precisely why eBay sales for so many are down. Clue phone: we're here for the buyers because that's how we make money. You have start thinking about every buyer as if they were your only one. Even the ones who don't do the little protocol of contacting the seller for a refund. A seller has no control over what a buyer does. But a seller does have control over what they do and 100% responsibility to do it right every time without excuses.
posted on February 2, 2002 09:56:06 AM new
>>TWO NEGS over $16.00 worth of JUNK!<<
Precisely.
And concerning being the most highly blocked bidder in the history of AW: Whoever did that has done me an enormous favor in advance. And I'll bet a nickel these same folk wouldn't get feedback I've left ($100 items)like: "So great I came back and bought two more!"
Interesting double-standards here. Like if I didn't leave that (-1) buyer that deadbeat neg. Then I'm everybody's friend.
Why do I keep coming back? Well, I like REAMOND & Mballai (sp), and admittedly it is difficult for me to turn my back on a good rumble. Its one of my "issues", but I'm working on it.
Ten bucks Dellie wouldn't want to go in front of Judge Judy with me on this one.
No further questions please. I'm back in the threads because I'm avoiding other tasks again. You can help me not do that.
posted on February 2, 2002 11:16:02 AM new
NYCYN: I would love to go to Judge Judy on this one. First thing she would ask you is why you didn't contact me in the first place. 2nd thing she would ask if I would give you a refund, after I told her I had no problem with giving you a refund, she would say,,, well nycyn why didn't you take the refund and get over it. You say you cant go to the post office.... Hummmm.... Don't you sell items you have to ship all the time???... I didn't do anything wrong to you... I may not have described the items like you think they should be, but the fact of the matter is... I have wrote you as soon as I saw your negatives to offer you a refund and you didn't have the balls to write me back. But you have the balls to get on this board and Threaten me, What's up with the meet me on the street.. You actually think you should fight about this? I'm not that ignorant, but I will tell you this... You have my address and if its worth it to you,, bring it on. but, I must warn you first. I have 10 Full grown German Shepherds, 3 of them have Schutzhund 3 titles and 2 have tracking and Schutzhund titles the others just join in so just be careful. FOR THE LAST TIME SEND THE (OLD JUNK) BACK AND I WILL GLADLY GIVE YOU A FULL REFUND, INCLUDING SHIPPING!! Geeze... get over it!!!
posted on February 2, 2002 12:50:00 PM new
Heck, if NYCYN really goes away, I'll chip in and help refund her the $16.00.
I, too, could not imagine the commotion if this was over a substantial amount of money.
BUYER BEWARE. If it isn't right contact the seller and try to make it right.
Some of my favorite feedbacks ever given to me have been in those situations where something did not go right, shipping, damaged goods, goods that just don't do what the customer thought they would do.
I cheerfully refund. I got the positive feedback anyway.
It appears that NYCYN bought these items using a Buy It Now within hours of them being posted. I guess the descriptions and photos were good enough then to convince her to buy them.
Had she not quickly bought, she could have emailed the seller, asked for some details.
She didn't. She also did not email the seller when the items arrived.
Then complains about not wanting to go to the Post Office because of the lines when she herself is an eBay seller that apparently ships her items someway or another.
Then posts the items, deletes her post and tries to say that I was hallucinating about seeing the items in this thread.
Then gets all defensive and wants her eBay ID removed from a post that the seller puts up when she invited the seller to come look at the mess that she has stirred up.
Sounds like a real immature buyer.
Sorry,NYCYN, every transaction is not going to go smoothly. One of teh most wonderful things about being a human being is that two people can look at the exact same thing and see something different. That is apparently what has happened in this case.
Only here, one is acting like a spolied child with what they saw; and the other, while admitting they can see how someone else sees the items differently has offered a full refund several times.
So please, NYCYN, Please go away. Take your refund and go crawl back into your world where everything is black and white and comfy and cozy.
posted on February 2, 2002 02:23:12 PM new
dellandogs,
You don't owe nycyn a dime. If she negged you before she gave you a chance to either refund her money or even respond, then the price of the unjust neggs is $16.00. If she didn't properly read or look at the auction, tough luck. It appears all of the info was there and if she had any questions, she should have e-mailed previous to buying the items. Then to not give you a chance, that is simply childish.
bp
[ edited by barparts on Feb 2, 2002 02:24 PM ]
posted on February 2, 2002 03:41:25 PM new
>>"beware, crazy person" and "steer clear, she/he may stalk you"<<
She did. I just had a sense she'd fit in very nicely here. LOL!
I almost developed some empathy for the whelp when I saw just now that 99.99% of her sales are doggie toys. In my mind this knocks her back to a more forgiving position of that as a newbie seller; maybe. The 900+ was the big incongruous part of this. That being said, she is insipid enough to take moronic advice from the board, and makes herself look worse for it. Out THERE anyway.
Here, to those still posting, she's a jolly good fellow.
posted on February 2, 2002 04:03:30 PM new
Hi all... nycyn Just cant seem to get a grip I did take your advise and left her negitive feedback also, I wasnt going to leave her negitives, but in this case I think they are well deserved. Hopefully nycyn can get a grip and go on with her life.
dellandogs (906) Feb-02-02 13:10:00 PST 1320563641
Complaint : BEWARE! Leaves Negs without contacting to resolve. Hatefully disparages ebayers!
Response by nycyn Requesting a refund on your irresponsible listing would betray buying community.
Follow-up by dellandogs - I've been responsible, offered you a refund even with all your HOSTILITY grow up
dellandogs (906) Feb-02-02 13:03:52 PST 1500779672
Complaint : "BEWARE"Crazy Person"Steer clear, she may stalk you" And disparage your name!
Response by nycyn And eat your kids! Be a big girl and take it on the chin.
Follow-up by dellandogs - I'm taking your hostile attitude in a professional way. You need Lithium bad !!!
posted on February 2, 2002 10:41:38 PM new
Since the seller has decided to neg the bidder in retaliation, I definitely will not ever consider buying from that seller. Retaliation puts you on a level lower than the worst bidder on the planet--it means you can't take criticism and you aren't interested in improving. The comments are also puerile and libelous. You don't have to agree with a bidder's assessment or response, but a pro would blow it off rather than call someone crazy, stalking, and in need of psychotic medication. Desperately seeking lawsuit. Recommend that the bidder get eBay to remove these.
posted on February 2, 2002 10:52:23 PM new
mballai,
Please add me to you "Will never Buy from List". After all the negitive comments by the buyer, including the no contact negs, the seller had every right to neg. I read the auction and it was clear to me what the items were. If the buyer was not sure she should not have bid. It is tough enough being a seller on eBay with all the crackpots who bid and the ones who don't pay, why should we tolerate people who feel the world is owed to them. Especally when they are upset that they did not "Score" with an underpriced item (which is what this sounds like in the first place)
You wouldn't want me on a jury deciding who acted irresponsibly on this.
You negged the seller without contacting them to even give them a chance to make things right.
I've made mistakes, shipped the wrong item, shipped items with flaws I didn't see. I never had the misfortune to deal with a buyer that negs without at least emailing me of the problem first. You would not be welcome to bid on my auctions based on your own words in this thread.
posted on February 3, 2002 01:10:43 PM new
Hi all... I have read enough of nycyn bitching and complaining. In fact, she has done more bitching and complaining than anybody I have heard in my entire life!! We are all tired of your crap nycyn.
This lady bought 2 items from me. Though I felt they were described well enough, she did not... Fine... I can deal with that. I would have given her a full refund with no questions asked... But NO... she don't even contact me and let me know she is unhappy. I read about it with the 2 negs she left me.
I immediately replied via e-mail telling her I would give her a refund, even after she left the negative feedback. She didn't even bother to respond! Instead, she makes a thread on AW Named : Seller had to double neg a seller today.... In this thread she has threatened my kids and myself with bodily harm! She wants us to meet her in a parking lot??? Come on...She has cut down my integrity as much as she possibly could and said that I was low class???
Then when I list the auction #'s to defend myself she has another hissy fit. But yet we are all hallu.... hallu..... hallucinating???? The fact is she posted my auction #'s first. She has managed to cut everyone that had an opinion that she didn't want to read. I offered her a refund yet again.. Her reply was she didnt want a refund because its to much of a pain to go to the post office. Yet, She is a seller? She does have to go to the post office to ship things she sells, dont she? What does she want? Refund and keep the items to?
Then, she moves to make a 2nd thread because she didn't think she was getting enough sympathy on the first one named: The Victim of the year award. Trying to cut my kids and myself down some more. Then when a reader writes something she didn't like she calls them names.
Then, she moves to make a 3rd thread, named: Beware those who holler stalker... Here she is insinuating that I called her at wee hours of the morning and pranked her! I will say this... I did do a contact member info on her before all this began right after she left the negs, to offer a refund... BUT... guess what? The phone number she gave ebay in the contact info is a pay phone that doesn't take calls!!! ... HUMMMM... Is that not misrepresentation??? Is that not against ebays rules??? Now tell me, how did I prank you???
I Just want to say thank you to all that did give their opinion and all for your support. I would also like to say.. I'm sorry we had to go through all of this. I will not be making any more comments on this subject as I think way to much has been said as it is. Thank you.
posted on February 3, 2002 03:29:09 PM new
I have not contacted you for a refund because I DON'T WANT A REFUND. It is a buyer's perogative to decline a refund. It is a buyer's perogative to leave a neg, refund or not. So in case I haven't been clear: I did not neglect to give you a chance to refund me. I chose to not bother. I am under no obligation to give you a chance to refund me. And yes I didn't give you a chance to refund me, because I didn't want a refund. Clear enough?
Say we (in my house we) order a pizza from Roseannannadanna's. It was awful. It even had worms in it if you like. So I throw it out, try Ahmed's, and we like it fine. I could've demanded a refund from Ro's, but simply didn't bother. I just tell my friends about our bad experience, and recommend Ahmed's.
Which pizza parlor sinks or swims is not my problem. My problem is getting the best pizza for my buck.
posted on February 3, 2002 03:48:35 PM newI have not contacted you for a refund because I DON'T WANT A REFUND. It is a buyer's perogative to decline a refund.
posted on February 3, 2002 04:18:24 PM new
nycyn... Did you not post this on 1-31-02 at 5:19 pm?....Take your negs on the chin and send me my money back ??? OOOOPS
[ edited by dellandogs on Feb 3, 2002 04:21 PM ]
posted on February 3, 2002 04:36:18 PM new
I understand perfectly what nycyn is saying. She wants to take no responsibility for her bidding. She can choose to see anything or not see anything in the auction before anxiously clicking the bid.
If she makes a mistake she figures she can just go ahead and neg the seller and blame them. She can then whine and pretend that she has been wronged. If she damages others along the way, so be it. If she gets money back and can keep the goods, so much the better. After all, she takes no responsibility for her actions.
nycyn is a psycho bidder that we should all fear as she could strike any one of us that doesn't block her.
She is not like jerry12 at all! He had class and he had style. He would never do the things she has.
