posted on May 20, 2002 06:39:46 PM
take a good look at the URL and compare with the official URL of paypal and see if there is anything different.
the russians have a site called www.paypai.com??
posted on May 20, 2002 09:55:27 PMI can read between the lines and figure that you were new to business, but that doesn't mean you can go in blind, open a PayPal account. You should have had a lawyer first.
I agree. Anyone contemplating handing over more than a nickel to this unregulated entity should certainly retain a lawyer first.
posted on May 21, 2002 07:58:56 AM
wow,when we wake up in the morning,we should call our lawyer to ask if we should get out of bed and which side of the bed??
millions have signed up using paypal,c2it,amzn one click,billpoint,bidpay,propay,ccnow without consulting lawyers.
and what can lawyers do??yes,they are very smart and articulate and they conceptualise well,they will read the paypal terms of service and explain to you for a fee.
they can read the terms and explain to you the terms,they cannot alter the terms.
if you sign up with other people's credit cards and going to round them up and have a party before going to the notary public,you obviously dont think much of terms and rules and law.
why go to a law man,go to a mafia hitman !!
posted on May 21, 2002 08:22:03 AM
I know how to get out of bed; I've been doing it for close to 40 years.
I don't know all the pitfalls that go with running a business and as a very logical person, I tend to seek professional advice, especially if thousands of dollars of my money is involved.
To do otherwise is just plain stupid.
I also have enough sense to know that if I link credit cards and bank accounts that are in one name to an account with another name I'm running the risk of being investigated, or at the very least, be under suspicion for not so honest dealings.
~*~
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. ~Oscar Wilde
posted on May 21, 2002 08:41:21 AM
afallenangel ... interesting comment that I suspect is in response to something stopwhining posted. You should put that one on ignore like many of us have
posted on May 21, 2002 09:12:43 AM
i am glad you know how to get out of bed without calling your lawyer first.
that shows you are as you said,a very logical person.
posted on May 21, 2002 09:35:18 AM
A quick scan of the Better Business Bureau online shows that while Paypal meets requirements for the BBB Privacy Online program, it does not meet requirements for the Safe Shopping Site/Reliability Program (e.g., the BBB Seal of Approval). If I recall correctly, Paypal lost the seal after thousands of user complaints. Apparently all the subsequent wrangling and spin failed to reinstate Paypal. Is this a company you want to allow access to your checking account?
posted on May 21, 2002 10:17:11 AM
Stopwhining- Again you read and maybe you interperted the line wrong about getting a lawyer. It was meant that if you go into business that will make you many dollars as this person or persons have done, why would you not get yourself a lawyer. There are many legal things that are needed for business, as now they are finding out. Opening up a PayPal account is one of them. Selling Computers or Computer parts is a tough catagory. If the buyer gets the merchandise, it doesn't work, doesn't like it they will do a chargeback and heaven for bid PayPal locks your account. I as a PayPal member don't want to pay for it. Maybe you do. Maybe you have an extra $14,000.00 to give them. They should have been more informed than they were. As most of us on this board know that PayPal will lock accounts for very minor problems that is why most of us have a separate bank account for PayPal.
We will never get to the bottom of this until Blubu tells the whole story. There has to be more.
and what can lawyers do??yes,they are very smart and articulate and they conceptualise well,they will read the paypal terms of service and explain to you for a fee. They can read the terms and explain to you the terms,they cannot alter the terms.
Obviously people that don't know anything about business or how to set one up needs guidance, and making $14,000.00 a month needs professional help.
posted on May 21, 2002 11:31:42 AM
there is a difference between making 14,000 (profit) and just collecting 14,000 in sales and shipping.
computer and electronic categories are the most treacherous categories on ebay and elsewhere for both buyer and seller.
very capital intensive and few individual sellers can stock them on hand to ship immediately after payment is made.
i have nothing against lawyers but my profit margin does not allow me the luxury of retaining a lawyer or running to a lawyer for every service i signed up-billpoint,ebay.c2it,paypal .
in business ,there is bad debt expense ,as long as it is within a certain %tage of my sales and profit,i will just have to bear it.
the world does not evolve around lawyers or tax accountant or mafia hitman,we go on with our life,try to stay out of trouble,make enough to pay our bills and stash some away for rainy days and old age,my friend,it goes on everyday all around you without lawyer.
open you eyes and take a good look,or do you have to call your lawyer and ask for permission??
posted on May 21, 2002 11:58:50 AM
&14,000.00 whether it be profit or sales is still $14,000.00, It is collected through PayPal or what ever service is used. If a chargeback happens PayPal Shuts you down. Now, in order to get things straightened out he says he has to get a lawyer. Lawyers who have to start up a business are cheaper than ones that have to ligitate for you. In my book this is big business, maybe peanuts to you, but before I wast to start a business this large I would have consulted someone that knew something about business, It is obvious this person/persons don't know squat about business or their accounts wouldn't have been frozen. Or they wouldn't have had a party before faxing information PayPal needed or had multiple credit cards with other people's names. Get real stopwhining, people have to know what they are doing and how to do something and if they don't know they have to ask someone. I am a very small seller, but I took precautions before I sold. I read discussion boards, auctions, knew the ropes before I started selling. It took me a year before I could get up the nerve to do this, because this is a business, no matter what you think. We are all on the same playing field as the big business's You are liable for everything you write and everything you sell.
posted on May 21, 2002 02:36:14 PM
libra63,
14,000 is big bucks in my books.
i have nothing against partying,usually it is a sign that things are under control,so lets party.
posted on June 6, 2002 08:51:35 AM
My PayPal problem was awful. Someone fraudulently accessed my account and it was impossible to get anyone at PayPal to do anything. Unlike other people I mailed the documents PayPal wanted with delivery confirmation so PayPal could not say they did not get them. It took complaining to Travelers to get PayPal to do anything. Travelers told me they were not happy with PayPal customer service either. Later I found out Travelers and PayPal no longer do business together.
