posted on July 1, 2002 09:27:10 AM new
i think NYCYN is hurting from his mess up of selling a soo called "350" item for 1 dolla....u must be a very good business man
posted on July 1, 2002 09:49:49 AM new
I'm sorry but i don't see the problem with the 'swap feedback' issue nycyn has brought up. He paid promptly and picked up, she delivered the product he was expecting. Why not leave feedback for each other? Nothing to fear, since obviously he had a positive experience. I agree with some of the others that she is just ticked off because she sold an expensive item so cheap.
And yes nycyn, you need to reconsider how you write your listings. They border on rude and i would never bid on an auction worded like yours. Your wording for this particular auction in my mind made you look like a seller not willing to make much of an effort. It's no wonder you only got one bid. You probably turned a lot of people away with your wording.
In the first post, nycyn stated that because the buyer was able to purchase an item that nycyn claims to be worth $350 for only a dollar. Then nycyn emailed the buyer to "swap" feedback. The buyer has yet to leave a feedback, which is why nycyn is waiting for.
From my perspective of nycyn's posts in this thread and the title, IMO nycyn is upset with the deal. 1) the alleged $350 went for a dollar 2) nycyn is internalized the anger for not reviewing the auction after the listing to make sure it "looked good and accurate" and revise it if necessary 3) the buyer is an alleged "inexperienced" eBayer because nycyn is claiming the buyer is 18 years old with a feedback of below fifty.
Of course, we don't have the buyer's side of the story. We are only going by nycyn's side.
There is more to this than just the feedback issue. IMO nycyn is showing prejudice towards 18 years olds, peeps with below 50 feedback and that I think nycyn is waiting to neg the buyer just because the alleged $350 item sold for a $1.
Edited to add: If nycyn is waiting to neg the buyer, it maybe for a reason other that the dollar sale issue. It could be another reason that nycyn MAY be not telling us.
posted on July 1, 2002 11:00:16 AM new
*sigh*
I don't know how old my bidders are.
I don't know what color they are.
I've never wondered if they live in a shack or a mansion.
I don't care what god they do or do not pray to.
It doesn't matter if they were home schooled, high school dropouts, or if they have a phd.
It's not my concern if they are deaf, mute, or blind.
I'm totally uninterested in their sexual preference, as well.
Who cares?
The only sellers who would care about any of this crap are closed minded and judgemental.
When you pick and choose your bidders, you will most likely not find yourself to be the chosen seller. or the chosen friend, for that matter.
...end of rant...
funque: I started with zero feedback, too. what a coinkydink!
edited to add:
clarksville: Do I smell an invitation???
[ edited by zoomin on Jul 1, 2002 11:02 AM ]
posted on July 2, 2002 02:09:32 AM new
Ok it's 6am and I think I understand what nycyn is saying
1) Bidder won auction for a ridicously low price
2) Bidder pickes up item and appears happy with it
3) Bidder e-mails seller saying If you leave me positive feedback I will do the same
4) Seller tells bidder they don't care about feedback but if bidder leaves positive feedback they will do the same
5) seller says bidder has yet to leave feedback
Do I have it right?
If so here is my take on it
Bidder didn't leave feedback because seller stated they didn't care about feedbacks. Of course now seller wants to limit bidders with under 50 positive feedbacks from bidding on auctions due to an idea of how inexperienced bidders who have under a 50 feedback are,
posted on July 2, 2002 07:57:43 AM new
I just read all of this and I'm sitting
here in amazement!!!! WHY on God's
green earth would a seller put a $1 opening bid on something they THINK is worth $350 or more?
In a fantasy world you would have gotten what you wanted - a bidding war maybe? In REAL life it probably "ain't gonna happen."
You got what you asked for - a $1 sale.
I would think you would know to start
your bid at or close to what you would be happy with considering your cost of
getting it listed and anything else that applies.
posted on July 2, 2002 08:49:53 AM new
>>WHY on God's
green earth would a seller put a $1 opening bid on something they THINK is worth $350 or more?<<
Because the seller gets as much of a kick out of watching a delighted or thrilled buyer as she does scoring The Big One every once in a while. Something for Ripley's I guess. Thought that one deserved at least a smile when he picked it up. Perhaps that's grandiose. And yeah, I would have been happier if I at least got my listing fees and cabfare--I'm not THAT masochistic. I've had buyers do the Snoopy Dance for far, far less. It makes me happy to make buyers happy. In 3-D I'm a complete pushover sometimes when I see somebody really loves something and genuinely doesn't have that much to pay.
However that has nothing to do with buyers who are PIA's. I don't need them.
Shoot me. Or go pick on my spelling and grammar or something.
posted on July 2, 2002 09:03:33 AM new
nycyn; I have just reread your origina statement & cannot figure out what you are striving for. Are you just venting your frustrations regarding the $1.00 sale or are you trying to make a point? If it is the latter, please enlighten me as I cannot find it. I think that most of us who have left comments have misunderstood you. Having read & reread your original statement several times I have come to the conclusion that the age thing has nothing to do with the fact that you burned yourself with the $1.00 sale & have to have some one to be the scapegoat.
posted on July 2, 2002 09:15:18 AM newI get the stupidest demands and FB from those with little experience.
I don't see what's so stupid about asking to trade feedback. Many sellers won't leave feedback first, so what if a buyer does the same? There is no "rule" regarding feedback and no right answer.
Nycyn, I didn't see your auction (no cyberstalker here! ) but if you stated in your ad that you were too lazy to photograph the item, describe it, or ship it, then it's really no surprise that the item bombed. I know, because I've done the same, with the same results.
IMO, the buyer's age or experience has nothing to do with your problem. Though, to be fair, I would certainly be irked about the request for feedback. Kind of like rubbing salt in a wound. "Wow, what a great buyer, an asset to eBay!" Yeah right.
I don't put a lot of fluff in my item descriptions.
If the item is worth $350, I wouldn't consider a photo to be fluff. Even several well-laid out photos. Apparently you sold this piece as junk that someone would have to come pick up (was it a large item?) and received bids accordingly.
I agree that it is fun to see bidding climb, especially when it goes beyond the expected price. But that does not always happen (especially when the description is so cavalier), and that too is part of the excitement.
It was insensitive of the buyer to ask for feedback, but at least you have a story you can tell your grandkids. Better luck next time!
posted on July 2, 2002 09:29:39 AM new
After nycyn wrote this:
[b]iliacha: You are cyberstalker #2? It is good that you are revealing yourselves on the board. Keep talking!
This is fascinating in a perverse way. Someone just told the board that I wrote the buyer requesting feedback. (Shrug.)
Let this array of scrawny vultures attempt to find some meat somewhere else.
Cheerio[/b]
This morning it sounded like to me that nycyn was digging this up again for some reason (maybe attention? entertainment? science experiment?) and I was ignoring it. I have said my piece. The thread is going in circles. I am off this merry-go-round.
posted on July 2, 2002 12:23:16 PM new
Okay, I haven't posted on here in months, mainly because I didn't want to have to register a credit card just to post. But I lurk here, getting ideas, help, info and occasionally a laugh or two. When I read this thread, I must say, I was flabbergasted to the point of registering a credit card just to post on this thread. Of course, nycyn has her right to run her auctions how she wishes, but I can't for the life of me see what she hoped to accomplish here by starting the thread. I have MANY customers under 50... in fact, under 10. One in particular has a feedback rating of 1... because he's bought only from me and is a FANTASTIC customer. I don't know if he's 18 or 75 and I don't care. I have many people, especially ones with low feedback who write and request feedback. I am in NO WAY offended by it. I post feedback after I receive payment and have yet to be burned. These eBayers are wanting to raise their feedback rating up as we all are. It just makes me wonder how a seller could have such a bad attitude towards selling, customers, auctions, feedback, etc... and still be selling. I've made blunders with opening bids and when I catch it, I revise it ASAP. I've never had one get by me and especially if it were such a "high ticket" item. Anyway, my piece is said. Back to lurk mode.
posted on July 2, 2002 12:36:59 PM newShoot me. Or go pick on my spelling and grammar or something.
Can't and won't shoot ya and I'm going over your posts carefully for spelling and grammar......... LOL..... Not!
I don't know, you probably don't watch the items you put up closely, so you didn't catch this one to revise it.
I've started items at $1 all the time (in fact that is all I did! ) had one go from $1 to over $400 in 5 days. I didn't know what the heck it was (I DID KNOW what it was, it was a radio, what I didn't know was that it held such sentimental value to fan clubs of particular TV show. I looked it up in all my radio books, the model wasn't worth more than $15. in radio collector value.)
posted on July 2, 2002 01:02:35 PM new
the item in this particular auction could be well worth what nycyn says it was $350-$400. it may have gotten some good bids if there had been better pictures and a better description without the almost rude wording.
IMHO, she didn't make a mistake with the starting bid, she was hoping the right people would see the item and bid it up, ie bids get more bids.
the mistake she made was in the writing up of the auction. it showed absolutely no concern for the bidder, which is her mistake more often than not.
she writes her auction the same way she posts here. nuff said.
posted on July 2, 2002 01:29:38 PM new
Interesting thread. I guess I missed the part where nycyn solicited opinions about how she could be a better seller or make her auctions more appealing. In fact, after reading the original post in this thread I fail to see where nycyn was complaining about the mistake of launching the auction for $1.00. Seems to me her beef is with a buyer who got a fantastic deal and then wanted to swap feedback, rather then just leave feedback.
As for all the comments about the $1.00 auction and how it was described and its lack of pictures or whatever - umm - whats that got to do with the price of tea in China? Call me kooky but nycyn is free to list her auctions any way she pleases and the self-righteous opinions I'm seeing here responding to an unasked question are borderline pathetic.
posted on July 2, 2002 02:00:36 PM new
>>Interesting thread. I guess I missed the part where nycyn solicited opinions about how she could be a better seller or make her auctions more appealing. In fact, after reading the original post in this thread I fail to see where nycyn was complaining about the mistake of launching the auction for $1.00. Seems to me her beef is with a buyer who got a fantastic deal and then wanted to swap feedback, rather then just leave feedback.<<
