posted on November 1, 2004 01:21:48 PM
With major blunders/lies in each and every area, what the hell would prompt a vote for this guy? Maybe you hate Kerry? I just dont understand how this can be a deadlock at this point...
posted on November 1, 2004 01:30:53 PM
I wouldn't vote for Kerry for dog catcher. Any veteran who would for that scmbag needs to be examined for brain desease. IMHO, Kerry is a traitor, to Hexx with his medals. He badmouthed all of those who served in Nam. He joined up with Hanoi Jane Fonda another traitor. Besides that, I have been a Republican for over 50 years. This the 12th Presidebtial election I have voted in.
Life Is Too Short To Drink Bad Wine
posted on November 1, 2004 01:51:46 PM
Ah yes, sanmar...well as long as we are talking about things that happened 30 years ago, Mr. Bush's AWOL from guard assignment (the little wimp didn't even go to Viet Nam) is ever so much more laudable!
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posted on November 1, 2004 03:30:04 PM
I am not voting for him! but I am too big a coward to go near the round table.
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posted on November 1, 2004 03:40:46 PM
I don't understand it either micmic, I can't come up with a single reason to vote for Bush.
Just the thought of what more he can do in the next four years makes me shudder. He has nothing to lose either since it would be his second term.
I wondered in one day and ran for my life after reading only a few posts. I have very strong opinions about a lot of things and will stand up for them with my last breath but that place was MEAN!
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NO more years! Lets take the country back for personal freedoms, the environment, and sanity!
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posted on November 1, 2004 04:17:47 PM
It is truly pathetic that you bring this situation to Ebay Outlook. Can't you people keep it down in RT where it belongs.
posted on November 1, 2004 04:30:58 PM
Your complaints about where this discussion belongs is also unrelated to ebay so BUG OFF! Somehow, some way the election is ebay related, just do a presidential search and see for yourself...
posted on November 1, 2004 04:40:53 PM
wonder if Kerry is going to spend some of his wife 's money on us??????
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posted on November 1, 2004 05:11:32 PM
Because I wouldn't vote for Kerry for anything and I don't understand why anyone would vote for him. But we still live in a free country and my vote will count as much as yours and I do at least respect everyones right to vote for who ever they wish. Another vote for Bush in Kentucky. Lets quit dividing the nation over personal opinions.
posted on November 1, 2004 06:09:48 PM
Gosh, AWOL, Cokehead, Massive Liar, Born-Again Faker, Squash Human rights, Liar, Drunk Driver, Bin Laden Family Friend, Liar...gee the reasons to vote for Dumbya are endless.
It's sad to see the knee jerk contingency out in force.
BTW, I am third generation military, with a pop who actually served in the rice paddies.
Funny how easy it is for an AWOLER to smudge a REAL veteran's record.
And you guy's call yourselves "veterans"
quite a shameful lot.
Go ahead, put me on "ignore" like the other chickenhawks.
posted on November 1, 2004 06:16:30 PM
LOL, Japerton!
Yes, the RT can be mean spirited and it is definitely not for the faint of heart, but it can also be a great place to let off steam. Rather than taking my bad day out on the people here at home, I just pay a visit to the RT!
Then, I come back here to the EO for relaxation.
Remember - November 2 is National Celebacy Day! No Bush! No Dick!
Sorry, couldn't help it. My friend in London sent me that one.
I wonder what traffic on eBay will be like tomorrow. Thankfully, I have nothing ending until the end of the week. Hopefully, the mess that will ensue after tomorrow will be cleaned up by then. There, my post is now eBay related.
Take it Back - VOTE!
Cheryl
Protect the environment. Plant a tree and remove a Bush.
Lets quit dividing the nation over personal opinions.
Now if that isn't one of the biggest crock statements I've heard all day, I don't know what is. It's flattering to know that my personal opinion is helping to divide a nation. Didn't know I wielded so much power.
Cheryl
Protect the environment. Plant a tree and remove a Bush.
posted on November 1, 2004 06:54:02 PM
Well, it could be related to Ebay -- wasn't it VP Cheney who said in regards to the lose of jobs, etc. 'Well, a lot of people are selling on Ebay?
posted on November 1, 2004 07:03:14 PM
McJ - the only reason I can think of to vote for Bush would be to facilitate a Hilary Clinton candacy in 2008. If Kerry wins this year there is little to no chance of a Clinton campaign since she obviously would not run again him for the nomination in 2008 and I don't think that the majority of americans would consider a 61 year old woman as a viable candidate.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
posted on November 1, 2004 07:03:27 PM
I offer this excerpt from Jacob Bronowski's "Ascent of Man' with some feint hope for a return to the serious discourse the issues of our age require.
How very pitiful we all seem:the boosters, the party faithful; diehard partisans all.
From the "Knowledge or Certainty", an episode from the 1973 BBC series "The Ascent of Man", transcribed by Evan Hunt:
The Principle of Uncertainty is a bad name. In science--or outside of it--we are not uncertain; our knowledge is merely confined, within a certain tolerance. We should call it the Principle of Tolerance. And I propose that name in two senses: First, in the engineering sense--science has progressed, step by step, the most successful enterprise in the ascent of man, because it has understood that the exchange of information between man and nature, and man and man, can only take place with a certain tolerance.
But second, I also use the word, passionately, about the real world. All knowledge--all information between human beings--can only be exchanged within a play of tolerance. And that is true whether the exchange is in science, or in literature, or in religion, or in politics, or in *any* form of thought that aspires to dogma. It's a major tragedy of my lifetime and yours that scientists were refining, to the most exquisite precision, the Principle of Tolerance--and turning their backs on the fact that all around them, tolerance was crashing to the ground beyond repair.
The Principle of Uncertainty or, in my phrase, the Principle of Tolerance, fixed once for all the realization that all knowledge is limited. It is an irony of history that at the very time when this was being worked out there should rise, under Hitler in Germany and other tyrants elsewhere, a counter-conception: a principle of monstrous certainty. When the future looks back on the 1930s it will think of them as a crucial confrontation of culture as I have been expounding it, the ascent of man, against the throwback to the despots' belief that they have absolute certainty.
It is said that science will dehumanize people and turn them into numbers. That is false: tragically false. Look for yourself. This is the concentration camp and crematorium at Auschwitz. *This* is where people were turned into numbers. Into this pond were flushed the ashes of four million people. And that was not done by gas. It was done by arrogance. It was done by dogma. It was done by ignorance. When people believe that they have absolute knowledge, with no test in reality--this is how they behave. This is what men do when they aspire to the knowledge of gods.
Science is a very human form of knowledge. We are always at the brink of the known; we always feel forward for what is to be hoped. Every judgment in science stands on the edge or error, and is personal. Science is a tribute to what we *can* know although we are fallible. In the end, the words were said by Oliver Cromwell: "I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ: Think it possible you may be mistaken."
We have to cure ourselves of the itch for absolute knowledge and power. We have to close the distance between the push-button order and the human act. We have to *touch people*.
"Drop, drop in our sleep, upon the heart sorrow falls, memory's pain, and to us, though against our very will, even in our own despite, comes wisdom by the awful grace of God"
~Aeschylus
posted on November 1, 2004 07:09:00 PM
The man stands behind what he does whether it's right or not, whether he admits it or not.
He's not backing down. He won't back down.
If Kerry wins (and I shudder at the thought) he'll stop the war (which I believe is necessary) and the Iraqi militants who are kidnapping, bombing and beheading innocents in Iraq will be in our own backyards doing it because Kerry doesn't give a crap.
Bush had me the day he stated that single mothers have the most difficult job in the world and don't get enough credit for what they do.
Do people forget 9/11? Do they forgot how inhumane the terrorists were and what they did? Do they forget how President Bush got the nation through that? I knew someone on one of those planes. I don't forget. I won't forget.
Yes. They do. Most people have forgotten. There is no way Kerry could have or will get us through anything like that. And it will happen again if he's in office.
I live in a swing state. Pennsylvania. I'm casting my vote at 7 a.m. and I'm spending the rest of the day praying that for the next 4 years my president will be George W. Bush.
If Kerry were president I would be afraid to go out of my own home for fear of being bombed or kidnapped. And that's not an exaggeration, it's exactly what's going to happen.
posted on November 1, 2004 07:09:41 PM
I always wonder why people have the need to tell others where to post or what to post.....if you dont like the thread topic -then dont go into it/read it. Isnt that simple enough?
Imo, the election is a big event in this country and in one way or another will effect everyone - even ebay sellers.
posted on November 1, 2004 07:27:12 PM
eBay related???
Of course its eBay related, our esteemed leader Meg, donated $2000.00 to the Bush Campaign. I don't know if it was a personal or corporate contribution.
Agreed...the RT does seem mean spirited. I have read some very good information but wouldn't type a single letter or punctuation mark in that forum.
posted on November 1, 2004 07:36:01 PM
This was on NBC Newa at 5:30 tonight. Diick Cheney in Hawaii "Put all the lipstick you want on a pig. At the end, it is still a pig"
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