posted on July 12, 2007 01:06:32 PM new
How weird! I didn't know chargebacks don't just automatically happen. I got a letter from the bank today in the mail:
"On March 6, 2007 you submitted a claim for disputed transaction activity. As a result of this claim, on March 8th, 2007 we provisionally credited your account $XX.XX for use during our investigation into this matter. We have completed our investigation and the results are as follows:
The merchant accepted the chargeback."
A couple of weeks ago the seller left a garbled message on the answering machine saying "this is (couldn't make out the name) from the seller and we want to clear up this matter, please call us back at XXX-XXX-XXXX."
I called back for 3 days straight and even played the message back from them and was assured each time that "they" who ever they were would get back to me.
I contacted the BBB again and told them about the mysterious call and they said they would take it from there. Which makes me thinks which is why I got the letter from the bank today.
Anyway - I just thought I'd let everybody else know that a chargeback is not automatic. Even though it "appeared" that they had credited the amount to my account I was astounded today to find that it was not "there" but pending.
posted on July 12, 2007 01:46:15 PM new
The merchant has X number of days to respond to your chargeback,you figure if your credit card issuer received your dispute on the 6th,it is too early to hear from the merchant.
Your credit card issuer usually send a notice to the merchant thru slow mail,sometimes it will be faxed as well.
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Lets all stop whining !
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I've gone after hwahwa more than once. However, my parents and I were immigrants and suffered from poor behavior from native English speakers; everything from being dropped into kindergarten and handed crayons when I arrived in the US, to people talking REALLY LOUD AND SLOW as though I were deaf rather than a non-English speaker.
The best revenge was simply learning English better than most of my countrymen.
I have to say that the odds are good that if hwahwa isn't a native English speaker, his English is probably better than your ability at his first language.
posted on July 12, 2007 05:08:04 PM new
Yep, I've had a couple of run-ins before with "whining" about health care in our state. I also asked if she was a native Texan and she said no. She is well known on the "Round Table". Fluff says that English is not her first language. Gee, wish I had known that. If she is an immigrant (legal or not) she can certainly get free health care around here.
posted on July 12, 2007 05:36:55 PM new
quote >> "if hwahwa isn't a native English speaker, his English is probably better than your ability at his first language"
true cash.
I have agreed with hwahwa on another thread.
"your credit card merchant has X number of days to respond to your chargeback"
well? how many days? don't just say X like I used for $$.
I was astounded that my chargeback took over 4 months!! to be considered completed.
I guess I really got hacked at her response to fluffy's shipping charges in the other thread.
And then her reply sounded so much like the phishing emails I receive.
ok haha I apologize. come on back.
we haven't heard from SalGal in a while either.....
posted on July 12, 2007 06:02:49 PM new
I guess all that I'm saying is that there are probably quite a few people here for whom English isn't their native tongue. Perhaps most of them are more evolved than I am; perhaps I'm too touchy or sensitive. However, it seems to me akin to mocking someone for their appearance or physical defect and it "pushes my buttons."
But, for Pete's sake, don't apologize for taking hwahwa to task. I didn't know she was a she, but I have known that she's usually full of c**p. There were a few posts a week ago where I thought she was making sense, but I guess it's probably a bit like the stopped clock: right twice a day.
posted on July 12, 2007 06:20:08 PM new
It seems to be my day for cultural and language difficulties. I had to fire an Argentinian company I'd hired to generate a logo for one of my web sites. I wanted a hand-drawn cartoon-type sketch of a weirded-out guy to represent the "clearance clarence"character. What they gave me were a bunch of clip-art men adorned with necklaces and earrings.
(I'd post their efforts here but it would violate my eLance agreement.)
While the man plus jewelry equals man wearing jewelry thought process might be logical, it is culturally all wrong unless I want to have my client list exclusively in San Francisco's Castro District.
posted on July 12, 2007 06:53:31 PM new
I think it's a she. I googled it once upon a time and I think there was a Hello Kitty collector there or something.
Ummm - fluffy? "I wanted a weirded-out guy to represent Clearance Clarence" and they gave you a GUY - hello?
Maybe you should have said a non gender specific or maybe a weirded out girl?
posted on July 12, 2007 06:59:27 PM new
(hey they took away all of my spaces to cash!)
I just had to laugh at the REALLY LOUD & SLOW remark.
I will go into a doctor's appt and if it's a new doctor I have to tell them I am hearing impaired. And then they REALLY start talking REALLY LOUD AND SLOW. People three waiting rooms away can hear your diagnosis and treatment plan.
Like - I'm deaf - not stupid. I usually end up telling them I read lips really well. Just don't turn your head away when you're talking to me and I'll catch most of what you say.
I guess we're all handicapped in some way or another.
posted on July 12, 2007 07:05:55 PM new
Fluffy, have you looked at Cartoonstock.com? They have some pretty funny images http://tinyurl.com/yvo9l4
[ edited by pixiamom on Jul 12, 2007 07:06 PM ]
posted on July 12, 2007 07:24:48 PM newthey gave you a GUY - hello?
They gave me five versions of a guy -- all WEARING jewelry. And they weren't weirded out. A couple of 'em looked like Merv Griffin. Okay, maybe they know something about ol' Merv I don't.
Clarence sells jewelry at insanely low prices. He doesn't WEAR it!
posted on July 12, 2007 07:58:23 PM new
I'm partial to the guy in the shearling jacket. Edited to add: Fluffy, you don't know about Merv? I thought everybody did!
[ edited by pixiamom on Jul 12, 2007 08:00 PM ]
posted on July 12, 2007 10:07:30 PM new
Merv Griffin was outed long ago. Don't know if he came out voluntarily, but it's well known in California.
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I especially like it when they use pidgin sign language, pointing to their head when they say the word "think", etc.
Where am I from? I might be the only person born in Paraguay that you've ever "met." I still have my old passport, numbered 00000151. Obviously not many people got out, but it sure looks like they were preparing for an exodus
My father left Germany early. He was a test pilot at Junkers, which was being "militarized." He declined to make the transition, and to his dying day, one of his proudest accomplishments was never to have worn a suit or a uniform. In addition, he was associated with the Bauhaus, which made him doubly suspect. So, he came to believe that he had better leave Germany immediately.
He traveled to Paraguay (where I was born), Uruguay, Argentina, and finally the US, where he had two sisters. He arrived at age 50, speaking no English, with a new wife and baby, and no money at all. He was astounded that he was given a "second chance" and always loved the US for that. He learned English (could read at any level, could write so-so, and could speak with a very thick accent), but was always obviously not a native English speaker. Coming here when I was 7 made it much easier for me, and nobody (other than one linguist at college) ever figures me for a non-native English speaker.
I'm still defensive about it, after all this time, because it was really traumatic for me. I had been a very good pupil at a really good German school, writing with a fountain pen (if you made a mistake, you started over). I came to the US and was placed in kindergarten and handed a box of crayons. I felt infantilized. I also remember my father dealing with Americans, who would subtly mock him, thinking he wouldn't catch it. He did catch it, and so did I. But, he never let me see him get bothered by it; he had a strong sense of who he was.
Anyway, sorry for the long answer to a very short B U T L O U D question, but I was in the mood.
posted on July 13, 2007 11:55:55 AM new
Cash, what a fascinating life story you tell!
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As they say, "what a long strange trip it's been." I see quite a few of my contemporaries (mid 50's) starting to act really silly (cars, women, etc.) and I am always glad that my earlier years were really full, and I don't have the desperate thought that I've missed out on something... it makes for a devoted faithful husband
posted on July 13, 2007 12:38:33 PM new
fascinating cash - thanks for taking the time to educate all of us. betcha got the really fat Crayola's too. I always hated those, they made me feel like there was something wrong with me. we could only afford the regular ones.
posted on July 13, 2007 03:11:18 PM new
The story about crayons and assumptions made in schools reminds me of this. We had enrolled both our little daughters in a target school the Vegas school system set up to integrate the system. The white children from all over town were bused to school; the black kids lived in the neighborhood. The best teachers in Clark County taught at this school, and the education was superb. And . . . the children learned from each other about racial biases.
After three years, the school closed (the district was considered integrated), we moved across Vegas, and the girls were enrolled in the elementary school in our neighborhood (which was a rather snooty one).
The first day of school, our daughter, Monica, forgot her lunch, so I went over to deliver it and was directed to a certain room.
In that room, which was for special ed kids, was our daughter. The assumption had been, we're sure, that her transferring from a school in a black neighborhood, with the common name of Monica Smith, *probably* meant she was black and therefore special ed material. I was irate over that assumption, and we raised hell with the school. (She was very bright, and subsequently was put into a classroom for bright 3rd graders.) I took one look at the children in that room and knew immediately why they'd put her there. It was a lesson we never forgot.
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