Linda_K
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posted on March 20, 2001 09:31:40 AM
Guess I was thinking of, and agree with, the sig line Nobs uses here.
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rca001
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posted on March 20, 2001 09:40:33 AM
I can't agree with you, LindaK - I think there is just as much hostility now on these boards as I've seen continuously over the past 3 years. Only now, the attacks are more overt, spread out over more boards and target more people. In my view, in the past, attacks were generally confined to EO and usually only one person at a time.
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Linda_K
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posted on March 20, 2001 10:00:25 AM
Hello rca001 - That's fair enough. It's often been said that 5 people can watch the same accident and give different views on exactly what happened. I respect the way you see it.
As far as most of the past insults being mostly in the EO that's, IMO, because until Maui brought this 'back forty' (RT) to life that was the most used forum.
More overt ?, possibly. We used to call them 'veiled insults'. Some were so much better at typing an insult in such a way that the sting was still felt/understood, yet not be moderated. I think the moderation here now, is much improved from what it was.
And, for me, I did see a lot of attacks as being a 'group' againist one, of differing opinions, at a time.
It's also my opinion that this is a very hard medium to use. I've seen many times when someone posts something, another challenges what was said (taking it as an insult), when it wasn't meant that way.
Thanks for sharing how you saw things.
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krs
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posted on March 20, 2001 10:15:28 AM
"until Maui brought this 'back forty' (RT) to life that was the most used forum"
Pure nonsense. Maui brought nothing to life here at all. If anything the sorts of things that she brought here caused many posters to avoid the place and to cling in sheer desperation to the EO. The AW system formed the RT in response to a need for somewhere to channel all of the diversive energy which before that could only be expressed in EO for lack of another place. It was AW that began to moderate off-topic posting in EO, it was AW that created RT, and it was AW that encouraged, sometimes forcefully, the use of the forum.
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HJW
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posted on March 20, 2001 10:28:09 AM
Linda_K
Do you believe that rca001 cares about your "respect" and your ingratiating
"Thanks for sharing how you saw things"
A condecending manner and failure to acknowledge questions is rude.
Helen
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Linda_K
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posted on March 20, 2001 10:33:03 AM
I agree with almost everything you've said, except the part about Maui. She was the one in here, riding up and down the empty halls on her fantasy Harley, encouraging others to join her here for fun/fluff threads.
Yes, then AW did start asking/then inforcing the 'other-than-ebay' related posts come here.
I think it worked out well.
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HJW
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posted on March 20, 2001 10:46:01 AM
Linda_K
Have you read Fox news today?
Helen
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HJW
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posted on March 20, 2001 10:49:42 AM
It appears that Linda_K has me on IGNORE ACTIVATED 
I consider that a compliment.
Helen
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rca001
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posted on March 20, 2001 11:02:53 AM
HJW-
I consider Linda's response to be well thought out and I agree with many of her descriptions of what happened in the past.
I am not going to address the issue of who or what made the RoundTable the active place it is today. It is true that the EO was just about the only active forum three years ago (except for the Moderator's Corner <g> .
As far as your comment
"A condecending manner and failure to acknowledge questions is rude. "
Is that addressed to me? If it is, I didn't see any questions in Linda's post, only statements. And I'm so happy to hear that you feel my posts are superior (which is after all the meaning of condescending).
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HJW
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posted on March 20, 2001 11:11:08 AM
rca001
The condescending remark was not addressed to
you.
But, I should point out that condescending
remarks can be made by an individual with an inferior point of view. It would not necessarlily follow that
a condescending remark infers a superior
view.
Helen
[ edited by HJW on Mar 20, 2001 11:16 AM ]
[ edited by HJW on Mar 20, 2001 04:19 PM ]
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krs
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posted on March 20, 2001 11:33:34 AM
I think that the word condescending is one of those the meaning of which depends more than others upon correct spelling.
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stockticker
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posted on March 20, 2001 11:43:16 AM
Helen:
You have absolutely no idea - you are only seeing a very small part of the whole picture.
Do you realize how much this place is a goldfish bowl due to certain old-time posters? Did you know, for example, that an emotional discussion about the Irish humor thread was continued elsewhere? Did you know at least 3 other boards (4 now if you count the recent spammers) link to threads here, comment on the posts and sometimes bash the posters. Why just today on one of them there is a new thread entitled "***** you're such a dick" with a link to an AW thread.
HCQ was invited outside the goldfish bowl when she left here. She glanced around, quickly summed up the situation and declined the invitation with some pithy remarks.
If anyone's post was rude here, it was yours to LindaK. She's not a shark. I am beginning to think that perhaps you are.
RCA001: The Round Table (then called "General Chat" I think) was still a dusty place in February 2000 when the "Table for 316" thread was posted. Maui cleared the dust away and through sheer force of personality breathed life into this place.
Irene
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krs
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posted on March 20, 2001 11:48:19 AM
Get the title right. Irene.
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stockticker
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posted on March 20, 2001 11:49:35 AM
Bite it.
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rca001
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posted on March 20, 2001 11:57:17 AM
Irene-
I'm well aware of the history of the "General Chat" area of AW. I just don't happen to subscribe to the theory that it was entirely due to Maui's force of personality, nor do I believe that it would have happened solely with the moderators moving any non-ebay topic here, had there not already been signs of life.
rca001
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stockticker
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posted on March 20, 2001 12:05:38 PM
Rca001: Maui just set the spark (it took 3 or 4 attempts before it "took". What the Round Table became was due to a wide range of posters. I think it is the serious posters coming into the mix which gave the Round Table its uniqueness, and staying power. No one else has been able to duplicate that.
Irene
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rca001
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posted on March 20, 2001 12:33:12 PM
Rats, I do my very best Mikey imitation and I get taken seriously!
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zilvy
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posted on March 20, 2001 12:33:46 PM
Dear, dear, dear, krs.....would you please address the topic...or have you totaly lost sight of it? Are you by definition, a reason, season or (gasp) a lifetime?
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Linda_K
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posted on March 20, 2001 01:15:19 PM
stockticker and rca001 - Thank you both for reading my post in the way I intended it to be....respecting the view of someone (rca001) who just happened to see things differently than I.
Zilvy - Yes, we certainly did get off topic on stockticker's thread. Sorry Irene.
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HJW
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posted on March 20, 2001 01:34:05 PM
First, I will correct my spelling.
condescending. When I noticed the misspelling, the edit feature was not there.
Stockticker, You think I am a shark?...already?
...I aspire to be a shark but I haven't made
the grade yet.
About the other boards...I don't give a dam.
I try to contribute something here. Usually I am right but sometimes I am wrong...fairly
new to this chat business. I have no apologies to make to you or anyone else. I am a good person with a lot of integrity and to hell with what you think.
Helen
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zilvy
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posted on March 20, 2001 01:48:14 PM
And with that the Drama Queen (HJW) and krs ride off into the sunset knowing that their mission has been accomplished putting the Fun back in dysfunctional!! Bravo to the derailers...oh and by the way that's DAMN!
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HJW
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posted on March 20, 2001 01:55:01 PM
zilvy,
I was speaking for myself in my response.
I was called a shark and I believe that if
you were in my shoes that you might also
respond.
I believe that Stockticker and Krs were
having a discussion before I made my first
post to Linda_K. Get your #*!@ together.
Drama Queen? I don't know where that came
from.
Helen
[ edited by HJW on Mar 20, 2001 01:57 PM ]
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stockticker
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posted on March 20, 2001 02:10:35 PM
Helen:
I think you have a double standard, Helen. Veiled nastiness seems to be O.K. if you do the dishing out.
I didn't appreciate your calling this link required reading:
http://www.tiac.net/users/cri/sharks.html.
Irene
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HJW
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posted on March 20, 2001 02:18:20 PM
Stockticker,
I don't believe that I need to seek or care about your appreciation before I post a thread.
You are free to read whatever you like.
Actually, I found this link on a comedy
site. Where is your sense of humor?
Helen
[ edited by HJW on Mar 20, 2001 02:22 PM ]
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zilvy
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posted on March 20, 2001 02:25:35 PM
Helennnnnn the sunset is that a way>>>
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spazmodeus
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posted on March 20, 2001 02:29:53 PM
KRS's first protest against fluff threads (in the summer of 1999) was to start a thread about bubble wrap and the controversy about whether bubbles should be "in" or "out". Much to his chagrin (I imagine) it was a very, very popular thread.
I had a similar experience when I posted three or four deliberately off-topic (and what I considered absurd) threads in eBay Outlook a couple years ago, to protest the proliferation of non-auction-related threads there. This was prior to the creation of RT, back when this board was "General Chat and Discussions." (Remember the contest to re-name the forum? Of the numerous suggestions, the only one that sticks in my mind anymore -- other than the one ultimately chosen, Round Table -- is "Captain Picard's Forehead" ).
Anyway, I posted a few threads, one about Star Trek, one about the wit and wisdom of George Costanza, and then -- the most banal topic on my mind that day -- how to remedy hard-water problems in automatic dishwashers.
I sat in utter amazement as the hard water thread pulled response after response after response. I think it went on for a day or two. Even the Costanza and Star Trek threads did well. Hoist by my own Picard, so to speak.
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HJW
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posted on March 20, 2001 02:33:54 PM
zilvy, zilvy, zilvy!
You should know me better than to think that
I would ride off into the sunset!
Good Grief!
Helen
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spazmodeus
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posted on March 20, 2001 02:36:15 PM
I think you have a double standard, Helen. Veiled nastiness seems to be O.K. if you do the dishing out.
Helen,
My introduction to you was on the now-deleted thread that eventually led to HCQ's departure from RT. You were championing the person who directed very derogatory sexual insults at HCQ. When I called you on it, you told me that I was overreacting, that your whole family found the jokes funny.
I haven't held that against you or anything, but it does seem a little disingenuous for you to be critical of the atmosphere on these boards when in the past you've been right there in the thick of it.
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zilvy
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posted on March 20, 2001 02:38:38 PM
Hi Stockticker....so did you get anything interesting in your email lately...I bet it would have been neat to discuss it? What do you think, wanna try another thread??
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mybiddness
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posted on March 20, 2001 02:43:39 PM
how to remedy hard-water problems in automatic dishwashers.
How do you remedy hard-water problems in automatic dishwashers?
jest kiddin!
Not paranoid anywhere else but here!
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