posted on May 9, 2001 08:56:08 AM new
Ok, heres a question. If she feared for her life and if there was a stalker, why did Blake leave her alone in the car? Why did she let him? I know if I was in that kind of situation I would have went back with him. How could someone with a license to carry a weapon just so happens to forget they left it somewhere or even dropped it? You would think a person with such a license would be more aware of where the gun is on their person at all times. Just so there won't be accidents or problems. You get pulled over by a cop, cop sees might see part of a gun from inside the jacket, cop gets nervous.etc....The person knows they have be be more resonsible with the gun so that license won't get revoke is what I'm trying to say.
Could Blake have been wearing gloves(like driving gloves) so there won't be any powder residue on his fingers. (IF he did it)
Oh, oh... not the gloves AGAIN!!
I hope he didn't do it, but this story just doesn't sit well with me. It's kinda shaky.
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posted on May 9, 2001 09:26:24 AM new
The whole thing smells to high heaven. The part about being stalked sounds screwy to me. The restaurant guy said he came back in flustered, drank TWO glasses of water, didn't get anything, and walked back out? Would you leave your wife, supposedly being stalked, sit there by herself while you drank water? Why was he "flustered"? If he is involved, I hope the "Dream team" doesn't come back. Once is enough.
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posted on May 9, 2001 09:49:26 AM new
Hi mint & cyanide! Here's a quote from one of Maddie's links from the L.A. Times....
"One of the restaurant's owners, Joe Restivo, said he saw Blake come back to the restaurant only once, and that when he did the actor said his wife had been shot. Blake asked for a glass of water, he said."
I thought he went into the restaurant BEFORE his wife was shot to look for something???
Read Maddie's link from her May 8th post on page 1. Am I reading this wrong??
posted on May 9, 2001 10:11:28 AM new
Ok I might be going blind but I don't see that quote. Its been a rough morning so..
But if you read the articles it states that the co-owner said that it looks like Blake came in and retrieved nothing. He looked flustered, had 2 glasses of water and left. Didn't say anything about Blake telling him that his wife was shot. What we're missing here are precise times. Blake could have went in got his gun and left without anyone seeing him and maybe came back in later for a couple glassses of water waiting for the police to talk to him. But then I would think the police would have been in there with him already taking statements blah, blah blah. hmmmm........
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posted on May 9, 2001 11:46:06 AM new
Hey gang...I'm just home from carpal tunnel surgery and won't be around for a day or so, but wanted kraftdinner to have this link to Crime News site to keep up with new developments.
http://www.crimenews2000.com/
This link takes you to the current page...scroll down til you find the links on this one for the day.
I'm ticked...good discussion here and I can't play!!! But trying to use mouse and type left handed is a PITA. Hope to be better enough by tomorrow to visit for a bit.
Hmmm, you know what. Maybe it's just me, but if my wife was outside shot in the head, getting a drink of water wouldn't enter my mind, if that is how the water became involved. I don't think the thought could fit in there with all of the other emotions being felt, and the stressful strain of the moment. I'm not trying to pin anything on him, as we all don't know what happened, or why. Personally, I wouldn't give a damn about drinking water. And, I don't think they could keep me away from the scene either.
posted on May 9, 2001 12:35:28 PM new
Maddie!! I sure hope your wrist heals fast ....we need you back here!! Thanks for the link...we'll all check it out & keep you updated.
mint - you are soooo right! The most puzzling part is going back and drinking the two glasses of water as was originally stated. I don't know about you, but even after I've cut the lawn and I'm thirsty, I can't drink 2 glasses of water. Even if he only had 1 glass of water.....it's still a strange reaction IMO.
Could he have shot her from that blue bin, then run back to the restaurant to supposedly look for his gun so he had an "alibi", and was thirsty from running back to the restaurant?
posted on May 9, 2001 02:22:20 PM new
Just wondering, of those commenting here, who likes Robert Blake and who doesn't? Naturally none of us knows him well enough to form a qualified judgment about whether he's truly likeable or not. I mean just from what you've seen on TV.
Personally, I don't care for him as an actor. I thought Baretta sucked.
Robert Wagner had no idea Natalie Wood drowned next to his boat ...
And OJ is innocent ...
And
this poor woman was stalked ...
What responsible gun owner leaves his gun on a restaurant seat? No one I know does that. If it doesn't fit in the holster, leave it locked in the glove box. To believe a story like that is ridiculous!
Such are the crimes of the stars .. they get off Scott free, don't they?
He never impressed me as an "actor'. He was just a char-acter. I think he pretty much played himself, to me. Which is why his "popularity" waned. He got boring.
His lawyer needs to shut the hell up. He's not helping things at all.
Spaz - I liked the show. Hate to think he did this, but the more I read, the more bizzare it sounds. And sucking down two glasses of water after finding your spouse dying in your car seems pretty odd to me too.
posted on May 9, 2001 05:43:00 PM new
Thanks for the link, Kris. I had been thinking up until now that Harlan Braun was initially involved with the OJ case, but now I seem to remember that he was a defense attorney for some officers in the Rodney King (Simi Valley) trial. I had been thinking since I first read about this in the paper the other day, that it was a hired "hit". And the motive would be to get sole custody of the child. It seems to me that Blake married Bakley under some kind of "duress", (to get custody of his child?) and if this IS his doing, this could have been planned for awhile. At any rate, no doubt LAPD is taking extra care with the forensics in this case. It's looking more and more like another O.J.
posted on May 9, 2001 05:45:47 PM new
And I forgot to add that Blake's attorney seems to be pretty worried about charges being filed against Blake. Hence the "demonizing" of the victim. Hey, worked for O.J.
posted on May 9, 2001 05:52:43 PM new
I just can't believe that amidst all the questions, the speculation, the armchair detective theories, no one has asked one of the pivotal questions:
posted on May 9, 2001 06:15:24 PM new
Thanks again for the link Maddie! (You're bad!!!) I certainly agree with you that his lawyer seems to be doing him more harm than good. Obviously if the police thought these "incriminating" documents about her were relevent, they would have taken them. He should just shut up about it but it seems like he's trying to hard to make everyone 'look the other way', which is having the opposite effect. Some lawyer!
spaz, I like the guy myself. He's always seemed like a pretty honest guy...a little rough around the edges, but I liked the fact he never acted like a big "star" type. He's had bouts with drugs, but who hasn't?
Intruder indeed. Intruders don't drag one kid to the basement in a room hardly used, do what was done and then bother to shut the light and the door on the way out. An intruder would have either used the bedroom she was in or taken her from the house.
posted on May 9, 2001 06:49:24 PM new
It's all very peculiar, the murder, their marriage, everything. I heard that their baby was originally surnamed Brando, because she thought the baby's father was Christian Brando; Dna tests proved her wrong, it was Blake's baby.
To speculate on Spaz's question, it seemed she liked a cockatoo.
posted on May 9, 2001 07:06:35 PM new
Sorry mtnmama & Fez, but I don't think the Ramsey's were guilty at all. I think they cherished their daughter, but that's just my silly opinion!
posted on May 9, 2001 07:29:40 PM new
Well, re: the Ramsey's. I'm in Colorado and am really sick of hearing about this, but I first thought surely the parents had done this. I'm now not so positive. There were a couple of articles in the Rocky Mountain News recently that showed a lot of evidence that had never been released before.
It has reminded me that we are innocent until proven guilty.
Edited because I keep forgetting to add the url stuff.
And because I don't remember how to underline, so I made it bold instead...sheesh.
[ edited by UpInTheHills on May 9, 2001 07:33 PM ]
posted on May 9, 2001 07:51:53 PM new
The Ramseys can be pure as the driven snow and adore the little girl like a god and still be some of the sickest people you ever met to treat her like they did like a pet poodle show dog.
Who is there that does not think the girl would be alive today they had not called her to the attention of some warped wierdo by posing her in adult and sexual clothing and scenes and actions completely inaappropriate to a child?
If she had been a normal little girl out of the public eye she would have been as relativaly safe as any other child. Sure some at random get targeted and kidnapped or killed - but she had a big bullseye drawn on her by acting out roles that exploit the sexuality that any child has before they are mature enough to realize the sick attraction that can create in a few warped people. It is not a cute cartoon imitation of adult behavior like a little boy standing in Dad's big shoes with a pipe in his hand. It is dangerous.
