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 Sneaky
 
posted on September 2, 1998 12:36:00 PM new
1) Deeper Pockets, owned by Time Warner

2) Larger advertising budget (contrary to some people's opinion) than eBay. Many of Time/Warner's magazines have Auction Universe ads throughout them.

3) Transaction related "ratings". Not only is it transaction related, but a person can leave more than just the cumulative -1, +1, or 0 rating for a buyer or seller, meaning that if a bidder wins 4 items from a seller, the bidder is entitled to affect the seller rating from -4 to +4.

4) You can see what the "rating" for a user is at the time of a transaction. For instance, a seller might currently have a rating of 10, but a person will be able to see what his rating was 6 months ago when the seller put item X up for auction.

5) If you leave a rating for somebody and regret it, you can retract it!

6) Larger area to leave a "rating".

7) Cheaper rates for listing.

8) When an auction ends, the seller receives the addresses of the high bidder so that he/she doesn't have to request them from the bidders, all they have to do is confirm what the winning bid is.

9) Each item up for bid has a "shipping amount" field to designate an approximate ship rate. Items also have a field describing what payment methods are acceptable to the seller.

10) No rude chat boards!

11) Quick service, emails with any questions or suggestions are answered within an hour
12) Optional re-list feature on each item if it doesn't sell

13) Flexible auction lengths (1-?? days)

14) No noticeable employee egos communicating in the 3rd person

15) Unique dealer program in which they will waive the 25 cent listing fee if listing more than 200 items per month

16) Caters more toward collectors, rather than junk scam items and get rich quick themes

17) Less confusing categories
Now, of course, these are my opinion, and I'm sure adminstration will edit or delete the portions he doesn't see fit, so if you want my "original" un-edited list, email me. Try it out yourself.

This page is also being saved and will be posted in the future if it ends up being edited or deleted by the supposed "administration" because it doesn't like discerning opinions. I've also sent a copy of this page to auctionuniverse itself.
Thank you
SneakyDave

 
 crystal
 
posted on September 2, 1998 01:08:00 PM new
Let see if we can do this :-)..I agree with all points (except the 3rd person, which I find interesting..). I even agree about the chat boards, that ebay does not do a good job of controling the boards. I would like to know the bottom line..IE. How are your sales compared to ebay. How long have you been useing AU and have you seen an increase in sales..These questions apply to all who use AU. I am interested in knowing how other areas do. Have you found any particular area of collectibles that do better than others ? Since I have only been using AU for a short time..do you see any drawbacks that I might have missed ?? (and your post was fine, I don't see any reason that it should be edited)
crystal
 
 rm
 
posted on September 2, 1998 01:21:00 PM new
Sounds good to me. I'll try it. I've been waiting a long time for some real alternatives to eBay. I don't mind helping build some. Ray
 
 
 
posted on September 2, 1998 01:22:00 PM new  edit
I certainly agree with the catering to the collector rather than the get rich quick junk and "My Wife and her Twin Sister in Their Underwear" headliners.

I would like to see AU get off the ground. I think it would keep Ebay fit and trim as well.
 

 admin
 
posted on September 2, 1998 02:11:00 PM new
hmmm...

I don't edit posts, and if I did it would indicate as such.

There's nothing wrong with your post Dave and it will stick. You perhaps are referring to the removal of your post in the wanted section which contained an inappropriate proposal to purchase pictures of other AW members.

This is a violation of the member agreement you had to read in order to gain membership on this board, and I take it very seriously. It is also why your username was deleted.

I don't know why you posted such a thing, nor do I care. Keep it off of my board and your posts and membership will remain active.
 

 ang
 
posted on September 2, 1998 04:21:00 PM new
I have tried AU only with one item, but that item did almost exactly what the same item had done on eBay for another seller.


On eBay the item was relisted and brought in 19.99 with one bid.


On AU my item was relisted and brought in 20.00 with one bid.


I found my buyer was an old eBayer and still active on eBay.


One item doesn't make for a great comparison, but that's the only one I've tried.
 

 rm
 
posted on September 2, 1998 04:56:00 PM new
cyber, What was the item number on that sister....twin thing....?? :-p Ray
 
 Sneaky
 
posted on September 2, 1998 09:40:00 PM new

Whatever.

Anyway, I've put maybe 45 things up for sale at AU, some just to test
the waters, and I think I've sold 35 items, with only 2 high bidders not
replying. I can handle that. Currently, AU will give you a variable
amount of credit (they seem to ask you "How much credit would you like
in your account?") when you open an account, and they are very
responsive to problems and questions. I mistakenly listed 2 items as
"category featured auctions" (an almost $20.00 charge), and after I
found out the mistake, AU credited me the money (money that was "house
money" anyway), AND gave me a free "category featured auction" listing.
So I think they're really doing the things that will make people want to
list.
I've seen AU advertised in magazines toward the Sports, Comic
Book, and Action Figure areas, which makes up almost all of my items. I
haven't seen any advertising toward the glass, jewelry, etc. arenas.

Of course, with "house money", I can lower my minimums on opening bids,
but even so, I believe I would have sold at least 65% of my items
without the "house money" adjustment in, which is about the same with
eBay. I think, overall, the high bids run about the same as they have on
eBay, for my items anyway. Maybe a little higher at AU because there
isn't as much competitive pricing as eBay, which may have 50 PAGES of
the same item. eBay is good for people looking for something in
particular, AU is great for people browsing for a bargain.
I've
decided, in the future, to list all I can at AU, and anything that
doesn't sell, I might try at eBay, depending on the item.
A few
things bad about AU are 1) You can't add to the description after an
auction has started (although I think that is going to be a new
"feature" soon) 2) Free email accounts (including hotmail) are
acceptable to use, which may be great, depending on your opinion, 3)
Sooner or later, performance problems are gonna come up, 4) Netscape
users may get an error message entering the site if their Secure Sockets
Layer Level 3 is enabled (a bug that's been around a while)
Rumor has
it that AU may be setting up a credit card/escrow service of their own
that sellers/buyers can use at their convenience, which I think will
really make it take off.
In my opinion, the only thing eBay has on
them is the volume, which lately seems to be detrimental.
Sneaky
 
 chipmunk
 
posted on September 3, 1998 12:56:00 PM new
Sneaky

What is "house money"?
 
 ang
 
posted on September 3, 1998 01:44:00 PM new
Hi chipmunk! They (AU) gave all who asked for a credit to try their site at least $25 in "house money".
 
 neomax
 
posted on September 4, 1998 02:27:00 PM new
Dave et al:

First, let me say for a non-AU guy, you're pretty close on the facts ... but not perfect.

AU is not owned by Time Warner, it is owned Times-Mirror. No big deal -- Time Warner is a little bit bigger -- primarily in the movie-TV arena. Times Mirror is still a multi-billion dollar publisher with lots of magazines (Sporting News, Field and Stream = others) and newspapers (LA Times, Hartford Courant, Baltimore Sun, Newsday + more). We are also partnering with other magazines (Whites Guide, Tuff Stuff, Wizard, and more), newspapers (St. Louis Post Dispatch, Minneapolis Star Tribune, McClatchy Newspapers[Nando Net] and more.

Enough about that:-)

There are other areas of error.

For the last ten days, our users have had access to the best... and I mean the best ... auction management program around.

Sneaky Dave said you couldn't edit an auction... you can now completely edit an auction without even having to admit you made an error (unless the auction has obtained a bid -- then you can post an addendum like eBay) This means price, picture, closing date, reserve or not, shipping fee, complete description.

You could even hold a declining bid auction using this method over 14 days. Start something at $100 and knock it down $5 a day until the 14 days (maximum) are up.

We also allow you to set the date and time the auction begins. One can do some really cool stuff with our auction management.

Finally, Dave, I have no doubt that as an early (or earlier) adopter of AU, you got some "house money" because we were passing it around to those who worked with us on market research, those who had registered from the old AU (prior owner) and a few who came in just asking for it in return for promises to list.

Fortunately for us, those days are past.

There are some promotions and if you're one of those folks interested and can't wait... post me. Otherwise, hold on here a week or so and I'm hoping I can convince Mark to share some listing bonuses with his readers. (Don't twist my arm too hard, Mark:-)

Finally, regarding sell though ... Dave is right. Our sell through overall is competitive with eBay. I.e - We have categories where more than 75 percent of the items listed sell. You can pretty much tell which categories those are because they are the hottest ones with the most listings.

Righ now ebay does have an advantage in some of our smaller categories because we don't offer the selection they do. It is selection of merchandise that entices people to register and buy from your auction.

Dave, I think, said he thought we didn't do the advertising in collectible glass that we do, say in comic books.

I can say two things. First, I'm already looking for a place on the web to advertise for collectible glass buyers. (We already do some in the antique/collectible magazine area which includes McCoy, etc.)

Second, I would love to coordinate that advertising with the committment of a dozen or so folks to list so that when I do advertise to glass buyers, they'll be a nice selection, aggressively priced (open bid) when they come.

That's enough for now. I am very pleased about the messages on AU. Do keep them coming. And if you have a question you think I can answer, don't hesistate to post me.

G. Patton Hughes
[email protected]

[This message has been edited by neomax (edited 09-04-98).]
 

 edfan
 
posted on September 13, 1998 02:30:00 PM new
Sorry it's been so long between postings, but I did have some questions about AuctionUniverse and would like to contact the Auctioneer. Do I just email or ...?

 
 
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