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 cheeses
 
posted on October 20, 2000 06:29:23 PM
Greetings,

A friend of mine recently won a bid on a 'Brand NEW BOSE Wave radio', and got defrauded by a seller who takes money and does not ship the goods.

The seller has almost as many negatives as positives, and all the positives are as a buyer.

This seller currently has other auctions for these radios, and I know that all of the bidders are going to be ripped-off.

I know it is wrong to contact the bidders, but SafeHarbor say they are only a "venue" and refused to get involved.

Is there anything that can be done to warn these bidders or stop the auctions?

I hate to see the eBay crooks win.


 
 nicepolice
 
posted on October 20, 2000 06:40:18 PM
Instead of warning the other bidders, you should have warned "your friend" about bidding on a seller with such awful feedback. He/she got what was expected.
 
 Glenda
 
posted on October 20, 2000 06:46:16 PM
Did your friend file a fraud report and insurance claim with eBay?

 
 neomax
 
posted on October 20, 2000 07:02:51 PM
oops doublepost
[ edited by neomax on Oct 20, 2000 07:03 PM ]
 
 neomax
 
posted on October 20, 2000 07:02:54 PM
I actually wonder how this might play.
Have your friend bid on the remaining auctions. Then have your friend withdraw his bids on these remaining auctions stating that the seller did not deliver the last item.

The bid retraction will show up in the auction, other bidders are warned and the seller is pretty much exposed.

Will your friend get some heat?

Does your friend care?


If I had been defrauded in this manner, I am as yet undecided if I would play it this way because but I would certainly lean toward it.

I do wonder how others would feel?

Neomax

 
 csteve1781
 
posted on October 20, 2000 07:11:14 PM
"The seller has almost as many negatives as positives, and all the positives are as a buyer."

You're kidding, right? And your friend is...um...surprised that he got ripped off? I say chalk it up to experience, and move on. Of course, you can go through the safeharbor routine, but that's one mistake he'll never make again.



 
 krs
 
posted on October 20, 2000 07:31:00 PM
Start a thread titled NETCOP 101

 
 debbielennon
 
posted on October 20, 2000 09:30:40 PM
(Posting to correct thread this time!)

cheeses:

I think I found your guy! He is in violation of eBay's pre-sale policy since he states that he will order your item when he receives your payment, and that delivery will take 4-7 weeks.

Here's a link to the relevant policy:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-presale.html

The policy states that you must have control of possession of the items at the time of listing or be able to deliver pre-sale items (clearly indicated as such) within 30 days.

Send all the current relevant auction numbers to SafeHarbor and maybe they will look into this seller a bit more closely!
 
 radh
 
posted on October 21, 2000 11:51:17 AM

Be sure that you make copies of all email communications and all relevant auctions.

If one has been defrauded, the first two things to do are to file a FRAUD Form with eBay and to file an INSURANCE Claim with eBay.

Then call 1-800-ask-USPS and instruct them to send you a MAIL Fraud form.

Go to the Internet Fraud Center and fill out the online form, so that the FBI has the information in their huge database at https://www.ifccfbi.gov

The Internet Fraud Center claims that they will notify all appropriate local and federal aucthorities, but... some people also advise you, yourself, to notify your own police department, to try and find out if they will notify the police in the criminal's city. If they won't, you can call the police in that city, yourself, and also it is frequently advised that you lodge a complaint with the Attorney General in their state of residence.
 

 
 pattaylor
 
posted on October 21, 2000 12:17:16 PM
Everyone,

It appears there is enough information in this thread to identify the seller, who has not been invited per the Community Guidelines. I'm going to lock the thread until the guidelines have been met.

Pat Taylor
Moderator
[email protected]
 
 
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