UpInTheHills
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posted on November 4, 2000 09:28:14 AM new
A couple of times I've won an auction that had all of the text and pictures copyrighted. When I pay with paypal, I copy and paste the title and auction number into the paypal form. On these particular auctions, I couldn't do that. When I tried to highlight and copy, it came up with a message that said this info is copyright of XXXXX.
Now for my question. Does anyone know how to do that? I've got an item I want to sell. Other sellers of this item are already stealing pictures from a web site. I know this because the pictures each have the web site name on them.
My pictures are much better than the pictures currently being used, so I feel confident that once I've listed my auction, someone will try to link to my pictures.
I know I could just add some text that says these pics are mine, but that doesn't seem to be stopping these people from using the pics from the web site. Rather than try to deal with this after the fact, I'd really like to just prevent it from happening in the first place. Any ideas???
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sylswa
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posted on November 4, 2000 10:42:24 AM new
Boy, would this be nice. I would also be interested in this. Anyone know?
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abacaxi
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posted on November 4, 2000 12:31:05 PM new
They are using JavaScript that disables the mouse button that you use for copying.
Easy to defeat, by turning JavaScript off.
Put your eBay seller ID in the picture, in a place that it can't be easily cropped out.
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sylswa
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posted on November 4, 2000 12:39:36 PM new
abacaxi-We do put our ebay seller id in all
of our pictures and they are still using them
intact with our seller id on them in their
auctions!! We have a seller right now that
we have sent an email to that has two auctions that we are aware of that has our
pictures displayed with our user id and all.
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avaloncourt
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posted on November 4, 2000 12:40:55 PM new
abacaxi is correct about how it is done. You can also open up the page source in your browser and copy the graphic information and paste it back into the address bar on your browser and it alone will come up. The right-click blocking technique is strictly targeted at the people who don't have a clue about HTML in general. It keeps them from stealing your items to use on theirs.
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UpInTheHills
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posted on November 4, 2000 02:12:03 PM new
I've also seen auctions that have a picture that says something like "This picture is the property of XXXXXX." when the seller is YYYYYY. Doesn't seem to slow them down.
If javascript can be disabled that easily, maybe this isn't the way to go either.
Thanks for answering, but this isn't the answer I wanted. Bummer.
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macandjan
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posted on November 4, 2000 02:30:06 PM new
You document the daylights out of it and sue.
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lizabet39
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posted on November 4, 2000 04:03:55 PM new
I may bbe wrong but I think that it is against Ebay rules to use your pictures.
Make sure that you have some mark on it that IDs it as yours and report them.
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Glenda
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posted on November 4, 2000 06:59:42 PM new
Go read this page:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-copyrights.html
There's a link to report the seller(s) who are using your images. Resolution is easiest if your userid is on the image that is stolen and used, of course.
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odie4u
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posted on November 4, 2000 07:31:18 PM new
Notify ebay of the problem. If you have been selling the item longer, they will take care of the problem. I have had the same problem, just a week ago, I am happy now. Good Luck 
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magazine_guy
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posted on November 4, 2000 08:07:35 PM new
You can also put on a black hat, and join VeRO. I did- it was pretty easy (you need to certify that you are the Intellectual Property owner), and now when this happens I can fill out an online form, email it, and eBay cancels the auction in a few hours.
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wps
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posted on November 4, 2000 08:43:55 PM new
Hate to sound stupid, but how do you know when someone is using your pictures.
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Glenda
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posted on November 4, 2000 09:02:21 PM new
wps: Sometimes, a seller will check out "the competition" - other sellers who are selling the same item. Occasionally, they pull up another seller's item and find their own pictures being used for the auction.
Sometimes they find their own description being used, as well.
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magazine_guy
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posted on November 4, 2000 09:17:04 PM new
I can identify some of my pics by unique features- a blemish in the item, perhaps, or a unique background, or a slight lighting problem. I've encoded a digital watermark on a few of my pics that I thought were likely to be borrowed.
Large blocks of pilfered text are pretty easy to ID.
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wps
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posted on November 4, 2000 09:18:24 PM new
Either I dont look at others auctions enough or I'm not selling anything that is similar enough to bother using, havent had this problem that I know of. What will lazy people think of next to avoid a little effort of thier own.
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TheFed
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posted on November 4, 2000 09:22:05 PM new
magazine-guy:
How do you put on a "digital watermark"? Thanks!
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magazine_guy
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posted on November 4, 2000 10:03:31 PM new
Fed:
In Paint Shop Pro-
Image:Watermark:Embed Watermark.
To read the watermark, Image:Watermark:Read Watermark.
Not sure how it works with other image programs.
PSP is integrated with DigiMark- so if you read your watermark, you get some basic information on the copyright holder, and you're prompted to click on a button that takes you to a web page with additional info on the copyright holder. Basic service is free- it's kinda neat:
http://www.digimarc.com/about/index.shtml
Visible identification is probably more useful for most purposes, though, due to the deterrent effect you don't get with digital (and therefore invisible) watermarking.
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