posted on November 22, 2000 09:14:47 PM new
He wins.
Sends the wrong address to send too.
I wait for the right one, and he is surprised that the item doesn't arrive two days later.
Back and forth.... he is wrong totally.
I get this e-mail:
Yeah, I guess my son is proud.........he dressed as a paramedic on show and tell day so I am thankful of the fact I have been a positive role model for him. Too bad he couldnt dress as a theif or an internet sales person. Im sure it takes more sense to cheat people on the internet than it does to try to save lives for a living. I guess my wife needs an education too, law school dont quite compare to self-educated Canadian logic. Sounds like business isnt that good for you anyway if you needed six dollars that bad. Guess if you stiff 100 people by $6 in one month that adds up to a sizeable profit though. Dont try to do the math, thats $600, but then again, you might want to double check that. Im used to dosage calculations so that math might be a little tough for me. It is a sad day when an innocent person gets taken by the likes of you guys eh. Maybe while eating Thanksgiving tomorrow, if you Canadians have it, you will get choked on a piece of turkey and then see if one of your internet crooks will be able to save your life or the lowly paramedic unfortunate enough to have to save a piece of #*!@ like you. Time to do my duty and email some bidders and let them know what a fine peice of work they are dealing with.
posted on November 22, 2000 09:24:19 PM new
You could forward that to [email protected] and [email protected] - he is straight out telling you he plans on contacting your other bidders - that is auction interference right there.
posted on November 22, 2000 09:25:45 PM new
Well, other than the fact that he doesn't know that Canadians celebrate Thanksgiving on the original day of thanks in early October when it relates to harvest and not the American holiday that was moved from October to November in the 1930s so as to encourage the start of the Christmas buying season... his power of the English language makes me nervous to ever want be in a hospital when he is on duty! Regardless of what happened and who did what wrong or right, he is not communicating rationally. I would suggest the most rational, kind response you can muster - don't answer angry - you will only worsen the situation. Explain as clearly as possible what needs to be done to rectify the situation - he should feel sheepish and apologize. If you are REALLY magnaminous, you could offer him the item for free and apologize to him for putting him through so much stress, obviously brought on by his stressful occupation and that you would like to gift him the item for causing so much worry. He may not read the sarcasm...
posted on November 22, 2000 09:33:01 PM new
Wow what a bidder I see what you mean.
Its hard to know what to say.
I think for one I would say that I do not appreciate his insulting tone of voice.
I think I might say I hope I never get you as a paramedic,I doubt you could even locate where I was as you where not capable of sending me a correct address to send an item too.
Maybe you would forget the address of the hospital I was supposed to go to.
Probably tick him off more so.
What I would say,I find your remarks offensive and way out of line.None of this would have happened if you had sent me the correct address in the first place.
Like you I am also concerned with internet fraud and I do my best to get all items shipped as soon as possible.
One thing again that helps me to do that is a correct address which you where not capable of sending to me.
I am not a mind reader just a lowly human being trying to make a living/But it helps a lot when someone provides the correct address.
I do not need 6.00 that bad you are correct of that fact, but you have an obligation to fulfill your bid.I did not ask you to bid,you bid because you wanted to so that means honor your bid.
I may even say consider this transaction voided I will return your 6.00 dollars.Plus
neg you for the unreasonable person that you are.
Forward all emails to ebaY so they can deem how best to handle you as auction interference is an offense worthy of a ban.
That way other good honest sellers like myself can avoid you like the plauge.
Sorry had to rant,but people like that really get my goat.
posted on November 22, 2000 10:36:15 PM newcelebrityskin: Please don't hold that against us all. This guy gives Paramedics a bad name. We ain't all bad.
Tim Honaker
Career Paramedic and honest ebayer! And damn proud of both!!
posted on November 23, 2000 12:04:29 AM new
I always have to chuckle at the threats to sue. Unless there is a lot at stake, these are idle threats made by people who haven't an inkling of what is involved in filing and prosecuting a lawsuit. And for $6???
posted on November 23, 2000 04:51:18 AM new
Dear Buyer,
I thought it was important to write you and let you know that someone is sending gibberishly rude emails in your name. I realize that it is not possible that you sent such an email since you did bid on the "widget" with the actual intent to buy it.
I certainly hope that you find out who is impersonating you via email, and that you are able to take steps to get them to stop. Your good name and reputation are at risk.
I have the "widget" all ready to ship as soon as I have the payment and your correct shipping address.
Please keep me posted as to the status of the "fake emailer".
posted on November 23, 2000 04:52:50 AM new
Your winner from hell must be related to my mother-in-laws bidder from hell, who first paid her with a bounced check. Then after 2 weeks of several emails, friendly mind you, she finally makes good on the check. This is of course after whining about all the money she is spending on her new house. While my mother in law is professional and nice (didn't charge for bounced check), she sends the package off to her. Guess what! The item is damaged. Now my mother-in-law is expected, by NOON TODAY!!!! (her words, not mine) to reimburse her immediately. She will not do anything to assist with the insurance claim, has called my mother in law at her home threatening her in both telephone calls and emails. One email indicated that "YOU ARE GOING TO JAIL, LADY" and "MY HUSBAND IS A FRAUD INVESTIGATOR & KNOWS HOW TO DEAL WITH YOU". I suppose her husband forgot sending bad checks in the mail is also considered fraud. I can't believe this person is as ignorant as she has been. Never once has she sat back and said, you know this lady was real nice to me when I sent her a bad check, never threatened to prosecute me for a hot check, but waited patiently. The fact that she is this threatening is terribly upsetting my mother-in-law.
Some bidders should go back to the stores and try that crap there and leave the rest of us alone with our bidders who appreciate friendly and good customer services.
My favorite line out of this lady's email is "I AM GOING TO REPORT YOU TO EBAY". Ha, she obviously hasn't dealt with eBay that long.
Happy Thanksgiving anyways and like the rest of the posters said, Remain Calm & Professional at all times & SAVE ALL YOUR EMAILS. Good luck.
www.xenavalloneantiques.com
Sarah Josepha Hale also labored for decades to establish Thanksgiving as a national holiday. A New England author and editor of the influential Godey's Ladies Book, Hale lobbied for a return to the morality and simplicity of days gone by. Each November from 1846 until 1863 Mrs. Hale printed an editorial urging the federal government to establish Thanksgiving as a national holiday. She was finally gratified when Abraham Lincoln declared the first of our modern series of annual Thanksgiving holidays for the last Thursday in November, 1863. Lincoln had previously declared national Thanksgivings for April, 1862, and again for August 6, 1863, after the northern victory at Gettysburg. The southern states had independently declared Thanksgivings of their own, unsullied by Yankee influences, but would later resent the new national Thanksgiving holiday after the war.
Lincoln went on to declare a similar Thanksgiving observance in 1864, establishing a precedent that was followed by Andrew Johnson in 1865 and by every subsequent president. After a few deviations (December 7th in 1865, November 18th in 1869), the holiday came to rest on the last Thursday in November. However, Thanksgiving remained a custom unsanctified by law until 1941! In 1939 Franklin D. Roosevelt departed from tradition by declaring November 23, the next to the last Thursday that year, as Thanksgiving. Considerable controversy (mostly following political lines) arose around this outrage to custom, so that some Americans celebrated Thanksgiving on the 23rd and others on the 30th (including Plymouth, MA). In 1940, the country was once again divided over "Franksgiving" as the Thanksgiving declared for November 21st was called. Thanksgiving was declared for the earlier Thursday again in 1941, but Roosevelt admitted that the earlier date (which had not proven useful to the commercial interests) was a mistake. On November 26, 1941, he signed a bill that established the fourth Thursday in November as the national Thanksgiving holiday, which it has been ever since.
However, all that was predated by a 1782 Continental Congress proclamation for a one-shot deal:
"...commanding the observation of THURSDAY the twenty-eight day of NOVEMBER next, as a day of solemn THANKSGIVING to GOD for all his mercies...."
But if you're talking about Canada's Thanksgiving celebration:
Eventually in 1879, Parliament declared November 6th a day of Thanksgiving and a national holiday. Over the years many dates were used for Thanksgiving, the most popular was the 3rd Monday in October. After World War I, both Armistice Day and Thanksgiving were celebrated on the Monday of the week in which November 11th occurred. Ten years later, in 1931, the two days became separate holidays and Armistice Day was renamed Remembrance Day. Finally, on January 31st, 1957, Parliament proclaimed....
posted on November 23, 2000 07:06:02 AM new
Happy Turkey Day!
celebrityskin, something's nagging at me: how did you know it was a bad address? Did the package come back to you? Did your e-stamp software kick it back?
Also curious about your buyer's reasoning for not giving you a valid address. What is he telling you about that?
posted on November 23, 2000 07:58:52 AM new
Meya...
I laughed so hard about your post ("let me know about the status of the 'fake emailer'" had me in tears) that I nearly choked. And I need to save my chokin' pass today for later, when I'm eating turkey and mashed potatoes.
That was hysterical. I am going to do that the next time I get myself a wacko bidder. Thank god, I've only had a few, and they were more of the "clueless but harmless, mail me 100 times with questions" type.
posted on November 23, 2000 08:04:40 AM new
I think this person is not right in the head. Report him to Safeharbor, etc. and if you don't get the correct address within a certain number of days, just cancel the transaction. I find the idea of suing across borders over a $3 item interesting. Perhaps your bidder is the reincarnation of Howard Hughes, as I doubt he can pull off this trick on a paramedic's salary.
________
I never had one, and I didn't want one, and I don't, so now I do...
posted on November 23, 2000 09:31:33 AM new
I have to agree with Fronthill on this one, notwithstanding the Thanksgiving date controversy...
Kill the abusive buyer with kindness and be done with it. You can't control what has already happened, but maybe at least you will make him feel badly about the way he has behaved. You will probably get a neg out of it, but you can respond and put your own neg back so the rest of us know not to sell to this person.
[ edited by Bassicbrian on Nov 23, 2000 10:01 AM ]
posted on November 23, 2000 09:49:50 AM new
Well I can see how they knew they had the wrong address for the Item to be sent to as Hell is way to north to be close to hell.
Meya:
That is the best most unassumeing reply I have seen I think it would work with out makeing anyone upset.
Might even give the buyer a grin I agree a sense of humor is a must when dealing with all kinds.
as far as what to do report the abusive buyer to ebay and let the delivery of the Item speak for your honesty.
I might even go as far as to put the dam $6 back in there package I send to them with a note stateing I have never found need to make money through cheating or scheaming anyone every here your item and $6 have a happy life.
this should make the average person feel like 2 inches tall and think twice next time.
posted on November 23, 2000 11:23:27 AM new
Just the facts, ma'am
I don't mind people calling Americans greedy capitalist pigs, but I do expect the name-caller to be accurate in the "facts" on which he bases his accusations...
[ edited by HartCottageQuilts on Nov 23, 2000 11:24 AM ]
posted on November 23, 2000 11:45:29 AM new
It is so unfortunate that people have to bring their dysfunctional ways into a business transaction. This guy is Narcissistic which is why he has to tell you how wonderful he is compared to the rest of the world. His putting you down is what he needs to feel better about himself. Everything he accused you of is most likely a projection on to you from the way he thinks people view him. Sometimes, people fight with strangers to experience intimacy.
Since this guy (obviously not working on all four burners)seems to want to sue you, I think you should recommend a good Laywer that will in turn recommend a good Therapist who will recommend inpatient care in a psychiatric hospital. Oh MY!!! I hope this guy doesn't live in my city and I don't have an accident.
posted on November 23, 2000 01:45:55 PM new
"celebrityskin, something's nagging at me: how did you know it was a bad address? Did the package come back to you? Did your e-stamp software kick it back?
Also curious about your buyer's reasoning for not giving you a valid address. What is he telling you about that?"
Hey,
In my end of auction notice I always ask that winners e-mail me their mailing address, so I can track incoming payments. Just makes it faster for me, and them.
They sent me address "A".
I received a payment, with no e-mail address included, no mention of the auction, and the return address I did not have on file. So basically I had no idea what auction it was for.. so it went in my pending file (Always surprised when people make zero mention of the auction with their payment!)
Week later he e-mails saying "hey just wondering if payment arrived." I say no... because the orginal address he sent did not match any in my pending file.
I notice that last names match one of the pending... and I tell him, "Hey I do have a payment from this address... is that you?"
He writes "Yeah, Stonehedge lane is on the money order.....They changed our 911 address so its a mess right now"
Not exactly sure what that means.. 911 address... but he did confirm that they were one and the same.
So the next day I sent the item to the new address.
Two days later "Where is my package"
I Told him, well I just received the proper mailing address two days ago. You failed to send a single bit of info with the payment, and I had a different address on file for you. The delay is your fault."
Around then the my wife is lawyer, you suck, you are a peice of #*!@, I'm writing all your bidders e-mails started to roll in!!
Long story in short form. Hope that clears it up.
Anyone know why "911" would change your mailing address?
[ edited by celebrityskin on Nov 23, 2000 01:49 PM ]
[ edited by celebrityskin on Nov 23, 2000 01:51 PM ]
posted on November 23, 2000 02:47:30 PM newcelebrityskin:
Anyone know why "911" would change your mailing address?
Perhaps I can clear this one up for you. When you get 911 or "Enhanced" 911 in your area, they wil have someone with the title of "addressor" or something to that effect. They will look at all the road names in the area to make sure there are no two street names alike in the same area.
example 911 pages Police, Fire, EMS to 1313 Mockingbird Lane. If there are more than one "Mockingbird Lane's" in the service area, precious time is wasted trying to get more directions, or perhaps responding to the wrong one.......
Hope this helps.
Tim
Paramedic / 911 Telecommunicator / Dad of 4 / dishwaher / diaper changer / well, you get the idea
I'd be at a loss for words too. WOW.
