posted on November 26, 2000 02:18:09 PM new
I am beyond sick of those STUPID spam messages I get that fill up my mail on a daily basis!!
I believe that spamcop does do a good job of reporting spam and aiding in shutting down offending spammers, however yesterday I actually read though a spammer's message and I realized that over all reporting spam is probably a huge waste of time.
This is part of one message that I received from an A-hole spammer selling banned eBay cds,
(cut and pasted)This message is being sent to you in compliance with federal guidelines governing the transmission of unsolicited commercial email, including the provision of
contact information for our company within this email, a valid return email address, and a way for customers to remove themselves. Please note, however, that our
email address was valid at the time of sending, but may be cancelled by the ISP shortly thereafter due to our use of unsolicited email.
Okay, he knows he will be reported and will simply get another email address and send me more UNWANTED spam. So I am trying to figure out how to block this stuff from my Outlook address. I need help so I am only blocking out spam and not other people.
This is what I did:
Under messages tab I clicked "create rule from message" I then put a check in the box that says "where the to line contains people"
and under "Rule Description" I added my name and clicked options and under rule condition I checked the box that says, "apply rule when message does not contain people listed below" Also, do I have to put in my first and last name and my email addresses (I have two different email accounts that come into outlook).
Then I pushed "delete from server". IS THIS RIGHT??
posted on November 26, 2000 02:24:09 PM new
... I believe you just BLOCKERD yourself......Better go back and DELETE that first entry, or you will not be receiving any mail....
In the line FROM..where line contains name of people", you need to put the name of person SPAMMING...For instance, that person's mail may arrive under the name JOHN DOOLITTLE... You would then put TAHT name in the FOM message line. If no name, then copy and paste the EMAIL ADDRESS. Then in the BODY of Email, enter awords which were specific to THAT particular SPAM...If spammer is pushing FREE HOME LOANS,,,enter FREE HOME LOANS in the BODY TEXT section...
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Gosh Shosh!
posted on November 26, 2000 02:42:13 PM new
SHOSH: Blocked myself?? that is cool!
Would I have to do this for each different spam mail? WAY too much time, besides I get the same exact spam message on nearly a daily basis and each time it comes from a different email address, for example:
I have tried blocking each sender as the messages come in, but like I said, I will get the exact same message a few hours later from a different email.
There is so much spam coming in from different sources on different subjects that it would take too much time away from work. It almost seems easier to just delete them as they come in.
posted on November 26, 2000 02:48:00 PM new
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I know what you mean about it coming from a gazillion different sources! Thast is where some ISP's are great. I have Mindspring; they use the SPAMINATOR, and I can see, based on some numbers I am reading here, that I get very little SPAM....What I do get, I turn over to SPAMCOP...But I don't get 400 or 500 a day, like d.man..I would go bunkers!...
And yes, the "block" thingy can be a never-ending task...
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posted on November 26, 2000 02:54:36 PM new
SPAMINATOR? I have a picture in my mind of Arnold or Rambo going after these weinie spam guys with their automatic weapons!
For a VERY nonviolent person, I must say this is quite a satisfying thought!!!
posted on November 26, 2000 03:25:24 PM new
Take a look at the "To:" line in the spam. If your actual address is not showing, you can create a rule that will block those emails. Mine reads like this:
Where the To: line does not contain [email protected], delete it from the server.
That way, all of the mass mailed typed spams that don't show my specific address are dumped from the server. This made a huge difference in the amount of spam I receive.
Munging up my correct email address on the OutLook Express newsgroups I read helped alot too. I also use a Yahoo mail and HotMail address for when I have to register at a web site. Those addresses get most of the spam now, and not my main address.
posted on November 26, 2000 04:29:36 PM new
Some Isp services offer spam filters the problem with these is they can work to good and block some mail you might want like replys from buyer to EOA or EOAs from sellers for you winning bid AOLs spam filter is a good exsample.
I use earth link they offer this service and because of my auction sales I wont use it the only time the amount of spam drives me nuts is when I have to be away from the computer more then 15 hours and I have to sort the good from the junk.
an exsample of the spam I receive daily in the last two hours I have received and deleted 119 email with junk offers all related to ways I can make money or incress hit to my websites. http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
posted on November 26, 2000 05:27:22 PM new
MEYA: Do you have to do this for each individual spam message?
I went through my email and there are a couple newsletters I subscribe to and there was nothing wasn't anything showing in the "to:" line. Wouldn't I also block out these newsletters as well as the spam?
"Munging up my correct email
address on the OutLook Express
newsgroups..."
how do you do this?
DMAN3:
"an exsample of the spam I
receive daily in the last
two hours I have received
and deleted 119 email with
junk offers all related to
ways I can make money or
incress hit to my websites."
Holy mother!! makes me feel like I don't have a spam problem at all!!
posted on November 26, 2000 05:39:42 PM new
Yes, creating this particular rule would block any email coming in that didn't show your email in the To: line. You would be able to create another rule based on the From: line using the sender of the Newsletters you wished to receive. I have a friend who emails to a large group, but suppresses the list so we don't see all the email addresses. The rule for her emails is "Where the From: line contains Nancy, send it to the Nancy Folder" I first made a folder called Nancy in my inbox.
If you post to newsgroups using Outlook Express, your real email address is supplied because of the way you configured OE. To mess up your reply to address, go to Tools/Accounts/News, and click Properties. In the first window, under the General Tab, there is the section with the User Info. Put a fake email address in there, but make it "sort of" real, such as [email protected] so that OE doesn't fuss about it being invalid. If you are using more than one news server, you need to click Properties for each server and make this change.
What this will do is prevent those who read these newsgroups from clicking the "Reply to sender" on one of your posts and emailing you directly. Spammers use email address harvester programs to grap users email addresses from newsgroup postings. You can still type your correct email address in the body of the message if you wish the readers to know how to contact you.
Trying to stop the spam by just blocking sender on their email addresses will be futile because they constantly change their From: line.
posted on November 26, 2000 05:45:43 PM new
I only get about 2-3 per day now. Beforing using that new mail rule, we were getting perhaps 20 or more each day.
Our ISP says they block spam, but they do a poor job.
I also use POP3 Scan Mail Box to take a look at mail on the server before delivering it. It works great and keeps the junk that I miss with the mail rule from coming in.
I just logged onto my mail server using POP3, and there are 80 emails there since Thursday. Most of those are spam, and would be in my inbox if I hadn't stopped them. I leave my mail on the server for a few days because I get my email on two different computers with our home network. I can delete them now via POP3 and clean off my server.
posted on November 26, 2000 06:57:13 PM new
I created a separate folder for "real" email. My first rule is to move any mail addressed directly TO ME to that folder. (Most spam mail is not addressed directly, but CC:'ed.) Then I apply my other rules (like blocked senders). Then, whatever is left in my Inbox is mostly spam. I go through it once a week and pick out any real email, like mailing lists I'm interested in.
I wouldn't recommend fancy rules that delete mail from the server unless you're sure the rule works properly. Test the rule for a while first, or else you may accidentally be deleting important messages.
Emails from eBay that contain the word "congratulations" go to straight to my "To Do" mail folder. It's an easy way to isolate emails regarding successful eBay auctions.
posted on November 26, 2000 07:06:10 PM new
I don't have my mail rules delete the spam from the server, I choose the "do not download it from the server" option. I just went in and double checked how I have it worded.
Since I leave my messages on the server a couple of days, I use the POP3 Scan Mailbox program to glance through the list of emails that are waiting on the server before actually deleting them using that program.
I also direct eBay emails to a folder just for them. We have 5 email accounts coming into OE, and each of them has their own folder.
posted on November 26, 2000 09:54:31 PM newcmbtboots If you're getting the same email message from different addresses then you should set up a message rule that deals with the message text.
In the 'Select Conditions for your rule' box, just check 'Where the message body contains specific words'
Then click on 'contains specific words' in box 3. Then enter a phrase that you find in your spam email that you're not likely to find in legitimate email. "cancelled by the ISP" would seem to do the trick.
Then select the action. I wouldn't use 'Delete it from server', at least until your rule has been thoroughly tested. I have a spam folder that I use to test new rules. That way if my rule accidentally catches a good email, I can recover it. If you delete it from the server then it's gone for good.
posted on November 26, 2000 10:32:33 PM newbkmunroe...yup!~ works great... I have it blocking any phrase containing "adult moovies", "hot sex", "viagra", "home loans", "get out of debt", "shamballah Herbal remedies", and several others Did that a couple weeks ago. This week, I am down to about 5 SPAM a day Happy days!....
posted on November 26, 2000 10:37:55 PM new
I kept a running list for a few months containing keywords that spammers often use, such as e-commerce, marketing, Viagara, xxx, free, not spam, weight loss, merchant's account, make money, etc. etc. etc.
As my list grew, I added these keywords into a filter that automatically sends messages containing these words straight to my "Deleted" folder. I go back and check the deleted messages every once in awhile to make sure no real messages were deleted. So far it's just happened once.
It took a little time to get the list together, but between this and blocking e-mails not sent directly to me personally, it filters out probably 80-90% of the junk mail.
posted on November 26, 2000 11:39:28 PM new
BKMUNROE: That is the thread that I spent over an hour searching for. THANKS! Also I just added in the specific "spammy" type words into my block list.
I just checked my deleted file and there is 4 spam messages that were automatically sent there.
So there spammer weinies!!! Do not pass go and do not collect $200. When I get really brave I will just have them deleted from the server.
posted on November 27, 2000 05:07:18 AM new
cmbtboots -
The line that is most useful is the BCC line.
Set Outlook so that if the TO: line does NOT contain one of your email addreses the email is shunted to a maybespam folder.
Set another filter so that IF your email addresses appear in the BCC line, it gets shunted to the maybespam folder.
Set a third filter so blank FROM fields (if they don't contain an @ sign) get dumped in the spam filter folder.
Set a fourth filter so that SPam with nio English characvhters in the Subject line are dumped (takes care of Chinese spam).
This will deflect about 90% of the spam and perhaps a few innocent mailing lists. Once you find out what these are blocking you can ADD a filter that sends legit mail (set these by SENDER) to the inbox while keeping the junk segregated.
Every week or so, glance through the junk folder for addresses you didn't mean to filter and modify your filters.
Eventually you might be comfortable enough with them to delete fomr the server, but it's a good idea to dump them into a folder you can prune.
posted on November 27, 2000 09:19:42 AM newcmbtboots: The spammer in your case is twisting reality when it comes to the following statement:
"This message is being sent to you in compliance with federal guidelines governing the transmission of unsolicited commercial email, including the provision of contact information for our company within this email, a valid return email address, and a way for customers to remove themselves."
Unless I missed something, the fact is that while three bills are currently in federal Congress, no bill has actually passed federal Congress yet. A bill is not law until passed, and I'm not sure what "guidelines" is supposed to mean, since they don't quote who issued the "guidelines" or what their designations are.
As soon as bills entered Congress, some spammers started using words like the above, even quoting bill numbers as if they were already statutes.
All three bills are stalled somewhere in committee, last I heard. Two are very weak "opt-out" things that if anything, would likely result in a flow of much more direct marketing into people's inboxes, not less, because: there is no way to "opt-out" of every company that wants to send you junk; and "legitimizing" UCE may cause some that are waiting on the sidelines due to the current war to just jump right in. The third bill would give consumers more rights, but it too is stalled.
The spammers are just playing more games by quoting nebulous "guidelines" of unknown origin, or bills that haven't been signed into law.
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What's being done in the name of direct marketing nowadays is crazy.
The above are all just my opinions, except where I cite facts as such.
Oh, I am not dc9a320 anywhere except AW. Any others are not me.
Is eBay is changing from a world bazaar into a bizarre world?
posted on November 27, 2000 10:08:33 AM new
I would forward any unsolicited email to the
Postmaster@spammer'sISP (put the ISP name they use in) This should get some of these bozos kicked in the rear.
I believe you just BLOCKERD yourself...
...Better go back and DELETE that first entry, or you will not be receiving any mail....
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