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 waspstar
 
posted on November 29, 2000 03:21:16 PM new

Over 1000 sales, and now for the first time I am experiencing "The Unwanted Bidder"....

It's a bidder with 4 negatives out of 10, most of those coming in the past month. Also, his/her feedback is PRIVATE, which immediately signals to me that something is wrong. Lastly, this person is bidding on three of the same exact item that I am selling, all three of which are ending in the next few days.

I've cancelled his bid twice, and emailed him explaining why. How else can I stop him from bidding on my stuff??????



"My possessions are causing me suspicion." - Neil Finn
 
 Shoshanah
 
posted on November 29, 2000 03:26:58 PM new
Ouch! ...sounds nasty..
I have on 2 occasions, sent bidders a letter requesting they not bid on my listings ever again, and have sent a c.c. to Safeharbor. If person persists, all I would need to do is contact Safeharbor, give them the auction number involved, and person can be Suspended, or NARU permanently, depending of profile. Have you tried that?
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[ edited by Shoshanah on Nov 29, 2000 03:29 PM ]
 
 ExecutiveGirl
 
posted on November 29, 2000 03:37:38 PM new
I agree with Shosh. I've had this happen also. I sent the bidder an email asking them to stop bidding on my auctions and that I've cancelled their bid. I CC'd a copy to SafeHarbor and [email protected] and ebay responded and said if they bid on my auction again they will be NARU'd.

 
 reddeer
 
posted on November 29, 2000 03:40:45 PM new
Ya, I had to get nasty once & do that myself. Sure they were NARU the next day [when they bid again], then they simply registered with yet another ID & sniped it in the final seconds. Whatta way to screw up a $300+ auction.

 
 Shoshanah
 
posted on November 29, 2000 03:48:46 PM new
Oh! dear-red...!!! Those "re-incarnations" are a real big problem, and will probably get worse as E-Commerce grows!...Dang! One does not feel safe anywhere...
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 seyms
 
posted on November 29, 2000 05:18:19 PM new
Red-how did that auction aftermath finally turn out? I'm facing my own unwanted bidder and am afraid of a reincarnation any second now.

 
 reddeer
 
posted on November 29, 2000 06:27:21 PM new
It was a freakin mess. With the help of another seller, who this weenie was messing with, I was able to get his ID NARU'd, again. The underbidder decided he didn't want it, 20 minutes after he placed his bid????
The next bidder down bought it, then decided after 2 weeks of showing it around to his "dealer" friends that it was a repo. Ya, right. More like he paid $100 more than he should have. I decided he was going to have to do better than that, and after a couple email exchanges he decided that I was right, it wasn't a repo, and he kept it & left me pos feedback.

Sorry you asked?

 
 harvestmoon
 
posted on November 29, 2000 07:39:49 PM new
I personally think it takes a lot of brass to ask a bidder not to bid on one's item(s). No matter how many negs, retractions, whatever s/he has, I think it's tacky asking someone not to bid. It's like a proprietor of a store asking a customer to please leave because s/he's aware of this person's questionable buying habits. As much as I have been tempted to do this on a few occasions, I have not been able to bring myself to do it. When a potential bidder receives a message from a seller that they don't want them bidding on their auction, I can understand a person getting very irate and bidding just for spite. It's the chance you take when you open your doors for business.
 
 Meya
 
posted on November 29, 2000 07:45:27 PM new
Stores do ask those who have been caught shoplifting to no longer enter or shop there. You can actually be arrested if you enter a store that has banned your presence.
 
 Shoshanah
 
posted on November 29, 2000 07:58:52 PM new
Thank you Meya

To continue trying to do business with these bidders is suicidal..Why invite disaster?
But then we all have different levels of tolerance. We are not talking about just "any" potential customer...We are talking about FORMER would-have-been customers, who showed absolutely no desire to follow simple rules: You bid, you pay...and keep trying, so they can screw another nice user out of a sale, and cause him/her to los listing fees. What if you had a 1,500.00 item, for which you paid Ebay 99.00 to be Featured?...Would you still be that tolerant? Perhaps yes, perhaps not.

Meya makes a very good point about stores. If ANY behaviour is acceptable, then why do stores bother to pay for Security Guards?

We do not have Security Guards on the Internet; our only means of protection is to ban trouble makers.
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[ edited by Shoshanah on Nov 29, 2000 08:04 PM ]
 
 reddeer
 
posted on November 29, 2000 08:35:57 PM new
Harvestmoon ..... In my case, it was quite simple, the high bidder was NARU for being a deadbeat, they registered with another ID & were NARU. They then registered with yet another ID & eBay suspended them again. When they sniped my auction, they had registered with yet another ID.

Oh ya, like I give a rats azz what the bidder thought about my email to them.

 
 Borillar
 
posted on November 29, 2000 11:11:20 PM new
I seem to not have one bit of trouble telling customers where to go! Hey! A transaction is simple: nothing misleading in the auction, a nice photo, a decent asking price, someone bids and wins, they send valid payment, I ship next day and post positive feedback, they get it in a couple of days and get exactly what they saw and what they asked for. end of story -- right?

Well, for starters, I don't care a bit for liars. It's amazing to me that Buyers -- especially deadbeats and late-payers, can be so easily caught up in their own lies (via e-mails). Lie to me -- I give you the boot and CC a copy to SafeHarbor! Buyers expect me to be absolutely honest with them and I expect the same back. Is that being unreasonable?

When I get their shipping address, run it through the USPS Zip+4 look-up, print out the address on a lable with ZIP Bar Code and all, insured, etc. Then, when the Buyer tells me that they never received it, because "the address on the check was wrong" and demands that I just send them another one -- WRONG!! CC to SafeHarbor . . .

You can cry all you like about there not being enough Buyers to go around. But as far as I'm concerned, for every flake that I tell to Bugger-Off, there's 2 million more Buyers out there who haven't come across my goodies for sale just yet. Why waste your time catering to liars, bullies, and dimwits?


edited for readability by me!
[ edited by Borillar on Nov 29, 2000 11:31 PM ]
 
 cix
 
posted on November 30, 2000 05:20:08 AM new
"Why waste your time catering to liars, bullies, and dimwits?"

EXACTLY !!!!!!!!!

I constantly check my auctions and bidders feedbacks. I mean hey, they check my feedback when they bid on my auction to see if they want to deal with me or not, I do the same to them.

If there is a bidder that I do not want to deal with, I simply cancel their bid. END OF STORY. I do not go crying to ebay safeharbor for a damn thing !!! I already know safeharbor is full of %#$@ !!!!!!

I do not care to make every bad bidder a NARU. I just do not want to deal with them.

 
 seyms
 
posted on November 30, 2000 07:58:48 AM new
Well said cix.

 
 
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