RebelGuns
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posted on January 8, 2001 10:15:51 AM
Why doesn't eBay start a seperate on-line flea market and get the Buy It Now garbage off the auction site instead of trying to combine the two????
What do we call this? A flea auction???
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packer
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posted on January 8, 2001 11:49:19 AM
I AGREE!!
SELLERS of NEW Items....PLEASE get your crap out of my "COLLECTABLE & VINTAGE" Categories.
I was doing some seach this am and I'm APPALLED at all the "NEW" "BUY IT NOW" Crap that was in those Categories. What a cluttered mess!
Whew! I feel better now!
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nanastuff
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posted on January 8, 2001 11:58:45 AM
Sorry, but I have found MANY wonderful antiques (and I DO mean antiqes) at flea mkts....guess I am not sure what you mean. Flea mkts. are not just full of new items.
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stockticker
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posted on January 8, 2001 12:03:35 PM
Rebelguns: Last year Amazon separated its auctions from "buy it now" through the creation of zShops. Both died. 
Irene
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packer
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posted on January 8, 2001 12:12:16 PM
I'm talking about all the "NEW ~ BUY IT NOW'S" in the Antique, Vintage and Collectable Categories on eBay.
THEY DO NOT BELONG THERE!
They need there own categories for that stuff.
Doing a search in the above categories I mentioned is a NIGHTMARE because of all wading you have to do to find something Genuinely Vintage.
I listed some stuff the other night in a collectable category and by the time they got indexed they were on the 4th page. I had to wade through 3 pages of "BUY IT NOW ~ NEW" before I found my listings.
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nanastuff
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posted on January 8, 2001 12:19:02 PM
Yes, Packer, I see what you are saying; just not sure if that is what RebelGuns is talking about. I collect a certain type of very old and rare glassware and when I find a "buy it now", well lets just say I have done the happy dance more than once. Ebay is a site to list anything and everything on, whether you use the "buy it now" or not. Now as for the category; that is a different thread.
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amy
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posted on January 8, 2001 12:39:07 PM
Flauction?
Auflea? (pronounced awflee)
Aufleation?
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td2
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posted on January 8, 2001 12:45:04 PM
fleabytes
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RebelGuns
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posted on January 8, 2001 12:48:47 PM
eBah has become about as junky and cluttered as a flea market. I guess they figured, why not turn it into one. And YooHoo thinks charging fees will help clean-up their site. Boy are they in for a surprise.
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valeriet
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posted on January 8, 2001 12:50:09 PM
I wish we could sort by Buy It Now.
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packer
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posted on January 8, 2001 12:55:09 PM
RebelGuns,
I'm confused!
Just what kind of stuff do you think is AUCTION material? If not "flea-market" stuff or "Buy It Now" stuff, then what??
When I think "flea market" I think of "Old" "Used" "Vintage" & "Collectable" and Antique would fall under anyone of those definitions.
What is your definition?
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RebelGuns
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posted on January 8, 2001 12:57:29 PM
It's the BUY IT NOW I object to. I don't care if it's bubble gum wrappers or Corvettes. Is this a store or an auction site?
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toke
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posted on January 8, 2001 01:04:21 PM
Weeelll....I guess it's a store-auction combo. I don't like it either. I had a big debate with a customer who wanted me to close my auction and sell to him. His rationale was that eBay allowed it...so why not? I worked very hard to be tactful, but he was ticked nevertheless. He never did understand why I wouldn't use BIN and wanted to auction instead.
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mrpotatoheadd
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posted on January 8, 2001 01:04:55 PM
Is this a store or an auction site?
Seller's choice. Don't like Buy It Now? Don't click on 'em.
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RebelGuns
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posted on January 8, 2001 01:06:45 PM
Yadda, yadda, yadda....
They still add to the vertical stack on pages, and thus to the number of pages.
Let's hear it for FleaBay.
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packer
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posted on January 8, 2001 01:15:51 PM
Here is another problem I'm seeing with the "BUY IT NOW" feature. Sellers aren't doing the dutch auctions any more. I've seen up to whole pages of the identical item for sale by the same seller using the "BUY IT NOW".
Which adds to my unhappiness about being pushed to the 4th page upon indexing of new listings. ARGGGGG, its down right annoying and how DEEP do you go when looking at newly listed items?
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mrpotatoheadd
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posted on January 8, 2001 01:16:09 PM
If there are too many items on eBay for anybody's liking, I'm sure a short search will turn up many other auction sites with a much more limited selection.
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dc9a320
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posted on January 8, 2001 03:35:11 PM
If you're doing description search (as opposed to just title search), you can add
-"buy it now" (include the negative sign)
to the search, and it will neatly exclude all BINs, since that is eBay's own phrase, right on every auction page that is BIN. I'm not sure about when someone puts a non-BIN bid on a BIN item: eBay strikes the "buy it now" language, but I don't know how quickly it would update the database (if at all), and some sellers might use the "buy it now" phrase in his/her own Description.
The only other thing that might get excluded is a totally non-BIN auction where someone happens to hype the auction by saying "buy it now!" (variant of "bid now!" ), though of course with eBay's BIN, there would be conflicting intents to the phrase.
With title search, there is no universal way to exlude BINs, but adding
-"buy it now" -BIN
will handle those auctions where the seller decided to refer to BIN in the title. If you're looking for something that might take the form of an object called a "bin" but capitalized, don't use -BIN.
I know, extra complication. eBay could provide an option to exclude BINs, but I can't imagine a reason eBay would ever want to.
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What's being done in the name of direct marketing nowadays is crazy.
The above are all just my opinions, except where I cite facts as such.
Oh, I am not dc9a320 anywhere except AW. Any others are not me.
Is eBay is changing from a world bazaar into a bizarre world?
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