VeryModern
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posted on January 10, 2001 04:32:33 PM
Wow!
I just got an email asking to pay for an item someone one on Ebay at least 9 or 10 months ago. The mail states they she would like to pay, as she should have in the first place. She also says that she does not expect the item - she just wants to pay her debt.
She includes her phone number, and the auction number, description. The item is was resold and is long gone.
What to do?
I feel like writing her and saying "forget about it" but she is so adamant that it sounds like an AA thing or something akin to that IOW something she needs to do.
Should I ask her to mail the ebay fees ($1.50 I would guess)
Thanks
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RainyBear
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posted on January 10, 2001 04:35:21 PM
Well, you could either tell her thank you but it's unnecessary, or... do you have a similar item which would be a comparable price?
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sharkbaby
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posted on January 10, 2001 04:36:09 PM
I would say that I certainly don't expect payment at this point, but if she really wants to make amends I understand and I would let her. Or, atleast, perhaps, pay the expenses associated with the lost listing. Especially since the item resold. Or, if she had bid higher than the second winner, include the difference there too...That way she would totally make good and you would recover some loses.
Just a thought!
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VeryModern
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posted on January 10, 2001 04:42:42 PM
Okay wait a minute.
I don't read very carefully.
Seems she wants to pay 10 sellers she deadbeated "in the hope you will tell ebay and they will reinstate my account".
Ideas??
Thank you
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sharkbaby
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posted on January 10, 2001 04:46:52 PM
That sure changes the complexion of things!
I'm not sure I'd want to be a part of that!
If she deadbeated 10 (or more) sellers, WO...that's not like "I made a little bitty mistake & I'm sorry"! That's like I screwed a bunch of people and I'm sorry I got caught.
Ok, I'm not a very trusting soul, but I'd hate to think she's coming back to do it again to you and/or more sellers after she "makes amends" that she was told to make.
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VeryModern
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posted on January 10, 2001 04:53:30 PM
Well my memory is jogged now.
This buyer had a bazillion feedback. 1000 or so, and was wracking them up 50 a week all from BUYING.
So.. she (was a he by my memory) deadbeated and I waited and waited and wrote and wrote because it seemed by the fb that everyone was getting paid but me, and I always got a promise from them.
In the end, no money, and this made me angry and so I did the NPB thing and left a neg. I had the impression that this person just bid and bid and paid who they wanted (like the lowest priced win?) and blew everyone else off.
Apparently not paying caught up??
Still, a very strange mail.
Who would I write at ebay anyway?
Opinions?
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CAgrrl
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posted on January 10, 2001 05:50:51 PM
What an odd situation!
I'm trying to think what I would do in your shoes. I think I'd just ignore the whole thing. I don't think it's worth your time getting involved in that. First of all, rules are rules, although it is kind of a brain teaser as to whether that person is an asset to the Ebay community. Even if in your mind they are an asset, they haven't been much of an asset to you personally. And even if they were an asset to you personally I doubt that your writing Ebay on their behalf will have much of an effect. So why bother? If they were worried about their status as an Ebay member the time to take care of business was immediately after they bid on all those items...
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tsunamii
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posted on January 10, 2001 06:39:10 PM
I've had this happen to me. I decided last
April to sell my beanie collection and person bid one of them up to $452. This was within the "price guide" for this particular one. They responded, no problems. After 20 days I sent a reminder notice and they said they'd send payment priority mail. At 30 days I checked feedback and the negs were building. This person had previously had great feedback for buying expensive beanies. I filed my ebay forms and got my final value fees refunded. In late August this person emails me with the same scenario as yours...wants to make amends. I said fine...pay me my listing fees (featured cat, etc) and depreciation (it later sold for only $320 as the beanie market was declining) and I'd be happy to email safeharbor. He replied with "it only costs 25 cents to list and that's what I'm prepared to pay". I explained what ebay refunds to a seller and never heard back. I later learned that this person created a new account with ebay and went on to do the same thing and was Naru'd. Your person may be on the up and up but there are those that will continue to be deadbeats and that hurts everyone.
::::not Tsunamii on ebay:::::
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FelixTheCat1965
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posted on January 11, 2001 07:41:19 PM
I would just tell her thanks, but no thanks! She should have thought about the consequences when she deadbeated 10 sellers JMHO
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rarebourbon
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posted on January 11, 2001 07:46:10 PM
I would completely ignore this person. You don't need to get further tangled in her web of deceit more than you already were in the past... you've paid your dues. Let her find someone else to sucker!
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VeryModern
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posted on January 11, 2001 07:52:37 PM
Thanks everyone. I just hit "delete" on her mail.
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violet9
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posted on January 11, 2001 08:00:32 PM
My opinion doesn't mean much since I don't usually post to these boards, but I have been on eBay for going on 2 years as a buyer and seller. I believe that almost everyone deserves a 2nd chance - a chance to learn from their mistakes and start over. I also think, from what you have said, that she is taking being reenstated seriously, and if she were to be allowed back on eBay, she would be much more careful in the future. However, she has fences to mend and that requires effort. I would write her and tell her that if she pays the full amount including shipping for the item, that you would inform eBay that she had done so. You don't have to plead her case to eBay for her, just give them a simple statement that she has made restitution, and that she asked you to inform them of such. I doubt very seriously that if she goes through all the trouble, expense, and embarrassment of setting things straight with so many people, that she will be irresponsible again. She must be quite motivated to be making this effort.
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rarebourbon
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posted on January 11, 2001 08:14:52 PM
Don't do it! Unless you're trained as a priest, don't get involved with people who need forgiveness (unless you know them personally)...
You owe her nothing. People with this kind of history are trouble with a capital T and if you're a busy and honest seller, you already do your part for world peace.
I realize you deleted her email but I just wanted to give you some further reassurance. You don't need a guilt trip laid on you for maintaining your sanity!
rarebourbon
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violet9
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posted on January 11, 2001 08:49:24 PM
No guilt trip intended - surprised my opinion was taken that way. There is no moral pressure for the seller to do ANYTHING at this point. I am only stating what I would be inclined to do and why. I would also be happy for this NPB to reimburse me for the trouble and expense she had caused me the first time around. I can't see how accepting her money and writing a quick email to eBay would involve me to the point of creating further problems for myself, but if it did, it would be easy to get Uninvolved - just don't respond to further inquiries on the matter from the bidder or eBay.
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VeryModern
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posted on January 12, 2001 05:57:42 AM
Hi violet9, your opinion does count - welcome to AW in non lurking mode.
Surprise, I got another post from her this morning. This is a new version claiming illness, which doesn't jibe with my memory.
The thing about taking her money violet9 is that this has a manipulative feel around it. To be candid, if I picture myself holding her money in my hand, I feel a bit dirty.
I hope this makes sense. I guess I do not trust her. See... we exchanged at least 6-7 mails way back when and each said the check is coming, was sent, etc. etc. etc. and what this means is that he/she is dishonest.
And now... the new mail does not say "I lied" it says "I was sick" but he/she managed to pay for 50 items in a week.
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VeryModern
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posted on January 12, 2001 06:00:23 AM
I guess what I am saying is if you opt to lie to me 6 times, I don't want anything to do with you under any circumstances.
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 12, 2001 10:13:27 AM
To be honest "VM", I would let her pay, and thank her. We all make mistakes, and NOBODY usually tries to actually make good after the mistake has been made.
Whatever her "excuse" was for not paying in the first place, doesn't matter. Look at what she's trying to do now and make your judgement from that.
I think it's pretty decent of her to try to fix her account instead of doing nothing.
I think you'll feel better as a person, giving her the benefit of the doubt!!
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VeryModern
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posted on January 12, 2001 10:17:20 AM
thanks kraftdinner - but I am going to pass. I don't even feel good reading her mail - never mind putting her money in my purse. If she truly has any grace - she will accept and understand my lack of desire to interact with her.
By coming back (and back again if she does), she is causing me more harm.
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VeryModern
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posted on January 12, 2001 10:18:45 AM
oh yeah, and I feel reeeeally good about myself which is exactly why I will leave her go.
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lowprofile
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posted on January 12, 2001 10:24:10 AM
Take the money and run...
Who cares about anything else..
Besides why do you Ebay...for the MONEY Right!
SHOW ME THE MONEY------->>THATS WHAT I SAY.
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 12, 2001 10:37:09 AM
Gee VM, it sounds like she killed you cat or something.....she's trying to make good on a mistake she made. How else should she try to make ammends?
lowprofile....that's hilarious!!
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VeryModern
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posted on January 12, 2001 10:40:35 AM
Her motivation is wrong kraftdinner.
Anyway, it's a dead issue at this point.
Moderator - please lock this thread.
It's purpose has been served. Thanks everyone for responding.
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LindaAW
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posted on January 12, 2001 10:44:21 AM
Thread locked at the request of the originator.
Linda
Moderator
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