AndieBelle
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posted on January 24, 2001 11:15:18 AM
There was an interesting discussion just now about a misleadingly worded auction for a popular electronic item (the winning bidder ended up paying over $400 for an empty box and a warranty.) In general...would the fact that the misleading action was listed in the electronics/accessories category rather than in "shipping supplies" (or wherever you'd list empty boxes...?) be enough to get that seller booted for intent to defraud? I find it alarming that this person is still registered.
Rip-off artists like that end up costing their fellow eBay sellers a lot more than $400...
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Zazzie
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posted on January 24, 2001 11:25:02 AM
Awww---the moderators zapped the other thread out of existence.
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eventer
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posted on January 24, 2001 11:26:15 AM
Zazzie,
Check the MC, I asked about that.
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AndieBelle
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posted on January 24, 2001 11:36:20 AM
I hope that thread comes back, too--it was pretty fascinating 
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sharkbaby
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posted on January 24, 2001 12:14:04 PM
I just came home and looked at that auction again and, IN MY OPINION, it appears that the seller purposely misrepresented the item they were selling. The pic of the box appears to still be sealed by the manufacturer's tape. I sure do hope that the buyer gets his $400 back!!! Also, I hope that it was reported and gets looked at closely by the folks at eBay!
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pattaylor
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posted on January 24, 2001 12:23:08 PM
Everyone,
If someone would like to invite the seller of this auction, we can allow the number to be posted. Of course, there would be the customary 24 hour lockdown, but it would serve to reopen the discussion.
Just a suggestion, of course.
Pat
[email protected]
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cdnbooks
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posted on January 24, 2001 12:33:35 PM
if someone would post the auction number, I would be pleased to invite him.
Bill
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cdnbooks
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posted on January 24, 2001 01:05:12 PM
I have the auction number.
I will invite him to the original thread once Pat gets it restored.
Bill
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Zazzie
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posted on January 24, 2001 01:15:17 PM
Invite the buyer too---I don't think Pat is going to restore the thread unless the seller is invited---so you are in a Catch-22
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cdnbooks
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posted on January 24, 2001 01:19:06 PM
Zazzie
Good idea. Pat and Diana are looking at this.
Bill
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mivona
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posted on January 24, 2001 02:47:09 PM
I emailed the buyer when the other thread opened, thinking they might be interested. Has someone invited the seller?
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igolf
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posted on January 24, 2001 02:48:58 PM
Andiebelle
It is not unusual for sellers to list and sell empty boxes for collectible items. Sometimes, having an original box increases the value of the item significantly. Collectors will pay good money for original boxes.
Clearly, an honest seller will make sure and describe clearly that they are selling an empty box for that particular item.
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cdnbooks
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posted on January 24, 2001 02:51:01 PM
I have invited the seller to the locked thread.
Bill
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RainyBear
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posted on January 24, 2001 03:08:24 PM
digitalman - what red flares?
I keep thinking there must be some sort of way to search for the name of the picture in other listings, but I can't figure out what it is.
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RainyBear
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posted on January 24, 2001 03:26:28 PM
Hmm, the 2000+ feedback seller's auctions look nothing like the "empty box" auction, and that person has great feedback.
I'd be willing to bet that the "empty box" seller stole the pic to use in the listing but didn't bother uploading it to his own web space.
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pattaylor
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posted on January 24, 2001 03:31:36 PM
Everyone,
I'm going to lock this thread for 24 hours or until we hear from the seller, whichever comes first.
Pat
[email protected]
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joice
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posted on January 25, 2001 02:26:33 PM
This thread is unlocked as the CG's have been met.
I just got here and am playing catch up, so if there is more than one thread for the same subject, I may ask you to post to one only, to avoid confusion. We'll see how it goes.
Thanks for following the CG's,
Joice
Moderator.
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Crystalline_Sliver
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posted on January 25, 2001 02:34:37 PM
Wait, which one do I post to?
:\\\"Crystalline Sliver cannot be the target of spells or abilities.
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Zazzie
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posted on January 25, 2001 02:37:53 PM
This isn't a very thread title ---make up a new one.
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cdnbooks
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posted on January 25, 2001 02:42:22 PM
let's use this one, "Have a look at this auction! "
http://www.auctionwatch.com/mesg/read.html?num=2&thread=320690
OK?
Bill
[ edited by cdnbooks on Jan 25, 2001 02:43 PM ]
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AndieBelle
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posted on January 25, 2001 07:51:26 PM
See you at the original thread!
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joice
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posted on January 25, 2001 07:57:34 PM
I will lock this one so you all can post the one cdnbooks has referenced.
Less confusion, for sure!
Thanks everyone.
Joice
Moderator.
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