Zazzie
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posted on January 25, 2001 11:26:16 AM
The empty box seller from EBAY emailed me on my Zazzie email here. Anyone else get one???
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cmbtboots
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posted on January 25, 2001 11:31:03 AM
what did he say?
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mivona
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posted on January 25, 2001 11:39:41 AM
Is he going to come and give his side of the story! I'll go and make some popcorn!
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Zazzie
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posted on January 25, 2001 11:40:14 AM
I'm probably breaking some AW rule by copying the email---which was very short by the way---but it also made me rethink what I had posted yesterday--which was "Who would in their right mind would sell an empty box and with a receipt?"---the correct thing would have been "Who would in their right mind would sell an empty box and with a receipt, unless they realized it would confuse the bidders into thinking it was something it wasn't, so therefore intent to de-fraud"
Below is what they wrote me---I verified their email as the ID used on EBAY. So--since they are obviously aware of the discussion about the auction--can we start tallking about it ????
"Let me ask you something smart ass.Who in their right mind would buy an empty box??? Think about that one"
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cmbtboots
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posted on January 25, 2001 11:44:03 AM
What an unethical dink!
BAD KARMA, BAD KARMA, BAD KARMA
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Zilvy
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posted on January 25, 2001 11:45:23 AM
Hey Zazzie, at least you were able to make a copy this miscreant answered my invitation with a badly spelled but to the point F/U and that isn't any university I attended.
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godzillatemple
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posted on January 25, 2001 11:45:39 AM
Answer: "somebody who you deceived into thinking he wasn't ACTUALLY bidding on just an empty box."
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The opinions expressed above are for comparison purposes only. Your mileage may vary....
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Meya
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posted on January 25, 2001 11:45:51 AM
Well, there were 39 bids on that empty box, and from a quick count, about 15 different ID's.
So, it wasn't just one person who was "confused", unless the buyer had some shillers working for him as well.
I understand the concept of "Let the buyer beware", but this auction was deception, pure and simple.
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nanastuff
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posted on January 25, 2001 11:50:27 AM
Has anyone been able to contact the buyer?
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cmbtboots
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posted on January 25, 2001 11:50:35 AM
He asked, "Who in their right mind would buy an empty box???"
Nobody in their right mind WOULD buy an empty box if that is what they thought was for sale.
This guy's mother must be so proud of the amazing child she raised. I know I would be beaming with pride.
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mivona
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posted on January 25, 2001 11:56:50 AM
And when is the 24 hours up? It can't be much longer, can it? I want to see it before I go to bed!
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vargas
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posted on January 25, 2001 12:08:07 PM
Has anyone sent this dink's auction to Safe Harbor and the Federal Trade Commission?
I wonder how he'd like to see his auction used as an example in a news story about online auction fraud?
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figmente
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posted on January 25, 2001 12:33:00 PM
When I looked at the auction I thought it was clear that an empty box, plus receipt, was offered. What for? Seems most likely buyer would be someone wanting to use it to defraud. (Such as to obtain fraudulent refund from a PS2 retailer, or load with something weighing about right to sell to the unwary person to person). Legitimately, someone with a PS2, which they wanted to sell or present as a gift, but whose box had been damaged might be willing to pay the opening bid for a new box.
It is obvious that the high bidders thought that they were bidding on a full box, and reviewing the ad in that light I see that such a misreading would be pretty easy.
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joice
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posted on January 25, 2001 02:53:08 PM
The CG's have been followed and the original thread has been unlocked.
I will lock this one to avoid confusion.
Here is the unlocked thread:
http://www.auctionwatch.com/mesg/read.html?num=2&thread=320690
Thanks everyone,
Joice
Moderator.
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