ryinn
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posted on February 6, 2001 06:38:32 AM new
Hi,
Has there been a sudden surge in new buyers on eBay that have yet to earn any feedback?
I have sold on eBay for over a year but within the last two months the number of my auctions that have been won by people without any feedback is startling.
I had three auctions end recently and ALL of them were won by those without feedback. I currently have an auction running that as of last night the high bidder actually had a (-1) feedback rating and now the high bidder is yet another (0). 
In my experience, these buyers pay much slower than normal or ignore the transaction entirely.
I may be nuts, but are others also seeing a more bids by those without feedback or with only negative feedback??
This scares me!
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sharkbaby
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posted on February 6, 2001 06:50:15 AM new
Yup! And I just (a few days ago) had someone win an auction who had zero feedback and a day later she(?) was at -1. And she left this horrible response to that seller's neg feedback....I still haven't heard from her.
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gemtrader2
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posted on February 6, 2001 06:54:06 AM new
they have to start somewhere!!!!! what would you do if there were never no new buyers to replace the old ones that died or just dropped off ebay I'll take all 0 fedbacks no problem
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sharkbaby
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posted on February 6, 2001 06:58:32 AM new
The point is NOT that new bidders are bad! Atleast I don't believe that at all. The point is that most deadbeat bidders happen to have zero or minus zero feedback because these particular individuals that register for the specific purpose of winning auctions and not paying don't have a foundation of positive feedback because they never intended to complete transactions.
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vargas
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posted on February 6, 2001 06:58:55 AM new
I always have a high percentage of newbies. It's just the items I sell. I welcome every one of them and try my best to make their first eBay experience a pleasant one so they'll come back.
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ryinn
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posted on February 6, 2001 07:01:24 AM new
PLEASE UNDERSTAND,
I welcome all bidders also, but my experience has been that about 80% of those bidding who do not have ANY feedback history do not pay for the auctions they win.
Therefore, the huge increase in winning bidders I am seeing who do not have feedback alarms me due to past history.
Hense, the reason for my post.
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mzalez
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posted on February 6, 2001 07:03:57 AM new
It's been the opposite for me...I get lots of new eBayers and 99% pay right away -- even faster than more established eBayers in many cases.
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vargas
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posted on February 6, 2001 07:19:02 AM new
My experience has been the same as mzalez
Again, it's probably related to the items I sell.
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dixiebee
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posted on February 6, 2001 07:25:20 AM new
It's all of those people who got a new computer for Christmas. They saw the eBay commercials and went shopping for something. I hope they all come my way.
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amy
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posted on February 6, 2001 08:58:39 AM new
From my personal observation for three "first of the year" seasons now...there is always a rash of new bidders at this time of the year. I was looking forward to them as they really help make Jan-Feb-Mar sales rock!
I have not noticed that 0 feedback users are any more prone to deadbeat than anyone else...actually, I have always found them to be faster payers.
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Pocono
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posted on February 6, 2001 09:42:47 AM new
My experience? if they are an AOL ZERO, you just got yourself another deadbeat.
I sent out 27 NPBs yesterday alone.
22 from - 0 - feedback newbies.
19 of those from AOL.
The high number of zero feedbacks is in my opinion, due to the NARU/Signupagain syndrome.
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sharkbaby
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posted on February 6, 2001 09:51:47 AM new
Totally agree with Pocono!!! Almost every single deadbeat I've had was 0 feedback from aol!
Once again, I'm NOT saying that new bidders are bad! Am referring to the ones who OBVIOUSLY have registered and won auctions with the express purpose of not paying! This seems to be a game for some people and, as Pocono stated, due to the ebay system all they have to do is pick another fictitious name and start the game all over....
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on February 6, 2001 01:30:31 PM new
Can't Ebay track users who change their name and just bid again. I thought the cookie would be the same or at least the card card information would be the same. Call me techno challenged!!!
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ExecutiveGirl
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posted on February 6, 2001 01:57:06 PM new
I'm really beginning to see stars with these low-feedback bidders.
I just had to file 9 FVF's.
4 of them were NARU'd.
8 out of those 9 deadbeats had less than 19 feedbacks.
I'm beginning to see a trend here, and it's not pretty.
I know everyone says we have to give these newbies a chance and we all had to start somewhere, but when I started out with (0) feedback I made a point to try even harder to build up a great feedback rating and pay as fast as I could. These newbies lately I think are bidding just for sport.
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numike
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posted on February 6, 2001 03:03:18 PM new
I think I agree with both sides here. Due to the type of things I sell on eBay, about 95% of my buyers have a 10 or less feedback. Most have "0" feedback. I file almost half of my weekly auctions for NPB, and most are those with the under 10 feedback. However, I have also had a few WONDERFUL bidders that had "0" feedback when they bid from me, but within days, had 10-15 feedback. I think some people really try to make it work when they are new, since they are so many bad apples, they don't want to be labeled one. I do think eBay should find a way to track people better though,a few times when I have requested another users info, the phone was disconnected (gee, what a shock). I get most of my deadbeats not from aol, but hrom "hotmail.com". I do try to give them the benefit, but people with low feedback and lots of negatives do have their bids cancelled, as i have more important things to do then file for credits ALL day....
Good Luck to you all......
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chum
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posted on February 6, 2001 03:17:12 PM new
I also get huge amounts of aol's and I cancel 95% of them. I go in and see what they are bidding on, and determine what should be done. I only cancel aol, and webtv accounts since they are my major deadbeat source. When I was selling action figures it was no big deal to process 50-75 NPB a month from kids bidding for fun.
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toolhound
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posted on February 6, 2001 03:33:30 PM new
No wonder there are 0 feedback bidders bidding and not paying. If I was new and sellers cancelled my bids I would come back and snipe it with a made up ID just to get even.
I think if you are selling items that attract kids you are going to have problems no sense in agravating them.
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Pocono
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posted on February 6, 2001 03:34:00 PM new
eBay wants nothing to do with curbing the re-registering after being NARU.
After all, if they NARU the same person 50 times, then they have "50" new members added to their total number of users.
I think if you eliminated every account from ebay, other then legit single accounts in good standing, that there would not be 20,000,000 plus users, but less then 500,000.
AT BEST!
bottom line is, ebay WANTS you to re-register, because it boosts their worth.
sounds weird, souds strang, sounds odd, but those sounds are just ebay shmoozing the investors.
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sharkbaby
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posted on February 6, 2001 03:37:52 PM new
Many of us don't sell items that attract kids. I don't sell ANYTHING that would be of any interest to kids ever! The notion that this would attract deadbeat bidders is incorrect. They, atleast in my case, choose their targets arbitrarily. And they are not all kids! Probably a small percentage of them are in my estimation.
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