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 nofishing
 
posted on February 19, 2001 07:32:30 PM
It's not fair that ebay doesn't refund listing fees when a deadbeat bidder bids.

Why can't the deadbeat be billed through their credit card for the listing fees.

Ebay is quick to suspend users who don't pay their ebay fees, maybe this would be a good way to get rid of deadbeats.

 
 sharkbaby
 
posted on February 19, 2001 07:37:05 PM
I couldn't agree more! But the problem is that I don't think they will ever require buyers to register a credit card in order to be eligible to place bids.

PS...sharkbaby likes the nofishing rule!
[ edited by sharkbaby on Feb 19, 2001 07:38 PM ]
 
 nofishing
 
posted on February 19, 2001 07:42:08 PM
Fish are people, too, Sharkbaby.

Please don't eat the fish (or cows, chickens, or pigs, etc.)

 
 Puddy
 
posted on February 19, 2001 08:10:42 PM
Making deadbeats pay= me having a private dinner with Shania Twain, Brittany Spears,and Catherine Zeta-Jones, then going to my place for a "snug-fest".

Making ebay refund listing fees is all the above in a space ship waiting for the moons of Jupiter to set.

I start all my sentences with "Why doesn't ebay..."

Drives my wife nuts.

John



 
 sg52
 
posted on February 19, 2001 09:14:27 PM
Why can't the deadbeat be billed through their credit card for the listing fees.

You want a serious answer?

No one can be billed through their credit card for anything that they did not authorize. Each charge must be individually authorized. If it is not authorized, cardholder is entitled to get the money back, and the merchant who charged the card gets punished.

sg52

 
 flamoral
 
posted on February 19, 2001 09:21:54 PM
The way it should be is as follows:

To become a member of ebay, one verifies a credit card.

Sellers should have to put their S & H costs when making their auction.

Bidder wins, and the amount of the auction and S & H is automatically subtracted from their credit card.

Money is then added to sellers credit card.

Everyone is happy (maybe not bidder, because they can't back out) Ebay gets their money and same with the seller.

Best of all, NO PAYPAL!!!

Just my 2 cents...



 
 decpage
 
posted on February 19, 2001 09:56:45 PM
flamoral: Your proposal doesn't account for the credit card fees. The seller would probably get stuck with those.

Requiring buyers to register a credit card will likely drive away buyers and result in lower auction prices.

 
 taz8057
 
posted on February 19, 2001 10:05:21 PM
decpage,

You are right, not everyone in the U.S. has a credit card. Many of my auction winners still pay me by check and money orders. I am happy with this because there are no fees for accepting them.

-Trey


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 Puddy
 
posted on February 19, 2001 10:34:14 PM
SG52,
Deadbeat means the last (winning) bidder. The authorization for the transaction is the winning bid. The only way that happens is with a password to get the bid in. It's not anyone but the deadbeat doing that. The deadbeat, by bidding, is signing a contract with the seller.

That's what the poster's gripe is about. The seller should not be out ANY money because a loser get carried away on a keyboard.

ebay won't acknowlege that and keeps the fee no matter what. As a venue, ebay needs to hire more bouncers before they let the creeps come in. God knows they make enough money to verify who uses their site.

John
[ edited by Puddy on Feb 19, 2001 10:39 PM ]
 
 twinsoft
 
posted on February 20, 2001 02:12:19 AM
I agree. Bidders should be billed automatically when the auction ends. Bidders who don't own a credit card could fund a credit account with eBay. If you can't pay, don't play.

GratefulDad
 
 tunzter
 
posted on February 20, 2001 02:42:31 AM
I had a deadbeat bidder default on a $60. record album....After promising payment for a month, she told me she'd "changed her mind" and no longer wanted the item!....I neg'd her, and so did several other folks...to the point where she was NARU'd.....then, after a couple of months, she emailed me asking if i still had the item (I did)....after more false promises, no sale....so.....after some quick research, i found she had a website that sold items by the same artist. I posted warnings on the artist's newsgroup...several of her friends on the newsgroup replied to my post (over 20 times), mostly to defend her.....but, the thing is, each reply brought up the header for my original post, containing her name and the word "WARNING", pretty much rendering this deadbeat "dead" in the water....with a little help from her friends...hehe.
2nz
 
 celebrity8x10s
 
posted on February 20, 2001 08:19:19 AM
Once again, deadbeats are very profitable for ebay. Many times we pay double listing fees and quite a few sellers are unaware that they can apply for a refund of the final value fee. They have absolutely no reason to go after deadbeats, and why would they when they are making buckets full of money off of them?

 
 sharkbaby
 
posted on February 20, 2001 08:24:45 AM
Good point, celebrity! Guess that pretty much says it all...
 
 quickdraw29
 
posted on February 20, 2001 11:05:46 AM
By not refunding the listing fee, the seller has a financial stake to take the time to collect on the payment rather than voiding the sale after ten days and relisting.


 
 sg52
 
posted on February 20, 2001 04:25:13 PM
The authorization for the transaction is the winning bid.

Credit card authorization isn't defined by eBay. It's defined by federal law.

sg52

 
 
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