jrb3
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posted on March 10, 2001 10:26:45 AM
Ok this is the deal.
I have a few jewelry cases in stores around New Orleans.
I often buy large lots on Ebay break them up and resell.
I also sell some assorted items on Ebay.
I purchased a 25 piece lot from a woman for $10.
She had one tiny picture and it was hard to see the items.
I figured it was a grab bag and bid $10.
Well the items were unbeleivable.
There was a strand of Venetian Glass Lampwork beads in the lot.
So I took some pictures and listed them.
They hung at $35 for 9 days, right before they closed a bunch of people sniped and the closing price was $150+.
I was shocked, but even more shocking was the original seller who emailed me saying she didn't approve of me reselling her items.
She stated she wanted $50 because I ripped her off and should have given her more money when I received the items.
I thought it was a joke and responded as such.
She then went off on me saying that as a professional jeweler I should know better then to rip off an old lady.
She also stated that she thought unless the items were for personal use I shouldn't resell on Ebay.
I thought this was hilarious since I'm a 25yo Male personal trainer.
All I could do was picture myself at the gym in these beads.
I figured there was no reason to respond.
See ExecutiveGirl your not the only one who gets the oddballs.
Joe B
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Capriole
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posted on March 10, 2001 10:40:17 AM
BEADS!?!?!?!
oh sweeeeeet!!!!
I would forward it to safeharbor and not even reply.
You owe her NOTHING.
(except the original $10 from the auction, but she knows that - nasty cow)
BTW, why should you pay her for her lazy A**?
Good Luck
(what am I saying, you already have it!)
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shaani
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posted on March 10, 2001 10:41:48 AM
The only reason she feels "ripped off" is because she didn't market them in the proper way. Not too many old ladies that are clueless anymore, not the ones I encounter anyways.
I would ignore her and just smile to myself that I got a good deal. Then I would look for another good deal. Life goes on.
Good work!
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Capriole
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posted on March 10, 2001 10:47:21 AM
Of course the other side of the coin...she may have thought she was doing a "nice" tossing in the item that she didn't know the real ebay value of.
It happens. I have a bidder ID and a seller ID to avoid this kind of issue.
Final question:
Why is she following your auctions?
hmmmmm...
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beachbound
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posted on March 10, 2001 10:49:32 AM
HER itmes? SOUR GRAPES 
Shame on you for ripping off that poor old lady! 
WOW...Congrats on your 10.00 *treasure bag*. The buyer's dream!
Thanks for sharing.....gonna rush over to the jewelry lots category now! I'd probably end up with Cracker Jack prizes...LOL. Hmmm,
could be some value in those.....ya think?
Charlotte
Beachbound here only
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dottie
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posted on March 10, 2001 11:28:41 AM
Actually... I'm still trying to get a visual of jrb3 at the gym in those beads! LOL
Let's see... COMMERCIAL Time:
"Grab Bag" of jewelry = $10.00
Venetian Glass Lampwork Beads = $150.00
Seeing Joe B at the gym wearing only the beads = PRICELESS!
- Dottie
[ edited by dottie on Mar 10, 2001 11:53 AM ]
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tsunamii
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posted on March 10, 2001 11:31:43 AM
This is exactly why sellers should have a buyer name and seller name. I've been in this situation and I ignored the emails. About a year ago I bought some rare beanies that I had asked question after question about and they were real. I had them authenticated and sold them for a very healthy profit. Thank goodness she had already left positive feedback because she was mad. I immediately started a buyer name. I've seen some of my items resold and I would never email the new owner because they knew more about the item than I did and marketed it better. Just ignore the emails.
Karen
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brosnan6
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posted on March 10, 2001 11:44:06 AM
DOttie,
Its not the AMerican Express commercial, its visa's commercial. get the facts straight
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dottie
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posted on March 10, 2001 11:52:26 AM
*sheesh*... are you SURE???" lemmie go back in and change it then! LOL
THANKS!
- Dottie
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sandee22
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posted on March 10, 2001 11:55:43 AM
LMAO dottie
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quickdraw29
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posted on March 10, 2001 12:29:12 PM
Was she going to accept a refund if you listed the items and they didn't sell?  .
She's out of her mind if she thinks you took advantage of her. Should I pay the thrift stores a percentage of my sales as a professional courtesy. How about my supplier getting a percentage too?
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jrb3
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posted on March 10, 2001 12:32:59 PM
Definitely think I'm going to start a different buyer name it will save some hassels.
Thanks for the advice.
Joe B
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ExecutiveGirl
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posted on March 10, 2001 12:37:45 PM
See ExecutiveGirl your not the only one who gets the oddballs.
LOL! I just happened to read this thread and saw that. With my luck I've already HAD THIS ODDBALL CUSTOMER!!! LOL
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kidsfeet
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posted on March 10, 2001 03:43:43 PM
Buyer ID is DEFIATELY the way to go. I recently bought a child's saddle on Ebay. Poor description, no pic, new seller. I took a chance, and got it for $117.00 including shipping. Sold it again on Ebay with the right description, good pics and got $375.00. To avoid hassles, I have a buyer AND seller ID. Two reasons #1, because of what happened to you. #2, I don't want anyone to know what I PAID for it when I bought it.
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stockticker
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posted on March 10, 2001 05:26:12 PM
Your only mistake was to respond to the first e-mail. Surely you can't have expected the original seller to be amused with your humor! It was unprofessional to rub it in... particularly as you had no idea as to the financial state of the seller and how much the loss of money might hurt.
In these types of situations, it is always best, before you decide to hit the reply button, to ask yourself if something positive can be accomplished by replying. If it can't, replying is just asking for the situation to escalate.
Irene
[ edited by stockticker on Mar 10, 2001 05:28 PM ]
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unknown
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posted on March 10, 2001 05:40:55 PM
The beauty of eling on the internet is that you really don't know if the other party is Black or white or old or young or a man or a woman.
So there was NO WAY for you to take advantage or discriminate agains anyone, because you simply don't know.
This is a really good instance were negative feedback is the way to go.
I suspect you already left feedback for her. So I suggest you bid on something else of her's and leave her a negative.
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Mikecol
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posted on March 10, 2001 06:00:48 PM
Chaulk one up for your. It's usually the silver fox that comes out on top.
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stockticker
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posted on March 10, 2001 07:14:37 PM
So, Unknown, your advice is for Jrb3 to retaliate by becoming a deadbeat bidder and a leaver of revenge feedback? Tacky advice.
Irene
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mcbrunnhilde
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posted on March 10, 2001 09:57:33 PM
BTW brosnan6, I believe it's a MasterCard commercial, not Visa.
Without eBay, I might have a real life... 
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eeditions2000
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posted on March 10, 2001 10:48:32 PM
Hey Joe...do you have anything for sale for someone with a "small wrist who hates the color red?".....(see EXECUTIVE GIRL post)...
lol....
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Libra63
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posted on March 10, 2001 11:09:08 PM
I had that happen to me. I sold a box lot for $20.00 and left really nice feedback for the buyer. As I was searching through I found the items I had sold the buyer. What a surprise. I kept track and she made $70.00 on the same items. Wouldn't you know she didn't even leave me a feedback. I think people do that all the time. If you don't know the value of what your selling don't sell it. I learned that the hard way but what I sold I would never pay that price per item that she got. EG you really have some strange buyers. Maybe you should start a club then Joe could join you.
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hamburgler
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posted on March 11, 2001 12:22:38 AM
In some states it is illegal to buy knowing the value of the item is more then its worth with the intentions of reselling. Here when you go to sell to a second hand store a seller can never offer a price or it can come back to bite them when the person who sold it comes back for part of the profit. It happens! BUT.....
If the lady didnt do a good job, no research, with bad picture it is her fault. I think any person who has sold 100 items can look back and say they screwed a particular auction up real good. Realizing the item should have sold for ten x's what they sold it for if it had been done slightly different. She must live and learn and go on.
I dont know what you did, but I would recommend to those who purchase off Ebay to resell on ebay to purchase with one account and sell on another. This will keep the people you bought from and those who buy from you at ease and not at your throat should they ever find out what you bought and sold an item for. I think that is a good business plan. On top of that don't let your buyers know where you get your goodies at because they will go there instead of coming back to you.
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Kaneen
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posted on March 11, 2001 12:45:59 AM
I've always had just one ebay user ID for all my ebay business, buying or selling. I'm not a big time seller, and rarely have bought something on ebay and resold it, but have done so on occasion. If I did decide to separate my buying and selling activities into 2 User ID's, what is the ebay process for doing this? Anyone with info or advice would be appreciated.
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hamburgler
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posted on March 11, 2001 01:08:15 AM
Just sign up for a new acct. This is not against Ebay rules. You simply sign up for another, if you are buying no need to place your cc on site again. (That info is in enough spaces already.) If you want to use the new acct for selling place your cc on file. Use the acct as normal just make sure the two accts have no form of mingling together...ie: FB, Buying from the selling acct or anything else. Also with a buying acct a seller who sees you buy alot and thats all you do will be more accomodateing...at least thats what I have experienced.
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retrolink
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posted on March 11, 2001 04:53:47 AM
Ah the "Holier than thou" general public. Three short stories here of interest. 1. I was selling at a local flea market. The man next to me puts 2 wooden doll cradles on his table as we are setting up before dawn. I say to him what are the cradles worth to you. He says give me $5 for both of them. I hand him a five and toss the cradles on my table. 5 minutes later a man comes up and says to me what are the two cradles worth.I look at his eyes and see the gleam of interest so I say that i was hoping to get $100 for both of them. The guy says I will give you $70. Natuarally I took it. The guy next store selling ,to me sees it and screams at me that I ripped him off. All day long I had to put up with his insults. 2. I worked with a girl that shows me all her fingers with various gold and diamond rings that are worth a fortune. She says that she got them all at garage sales for no more than 50 cents each over a period of time.(from people who thought they were junk) 3. I used to know a guy that took his truck around to go trashing(picking up peoples trash by the curb to resell)everyweek. He took it to the big flea market and sold the stuff right off the back of the truck at the market, making a fortune by the way. And the last point is that the old lady who screamed that she was ripped off probably goes to yard sales and buys boxed irons, toasters and what ever and returns them to Sears or K mart for a full refund Without a receipt. Or she probably switches tags in stores to get a cheaper price. Thats different.. Holier than thou! So the motto of the story is that if you buy something from someone and resell it for a higher price then its***tough luck**for the person that sold it to you. You as the buyer are not a thief you are a businessman. You did not steal..you purchased a product legitimately from a adult.Besides that on Ebay, at flea markets and yard sales do you know that many items bought and sold and bought, resold , bought and resold many times over. Sometimes you may even see a painted duck that you sold at a flea market 10 years ago on someones table today. And you know it was yours. So there he goes selling it for$3 to another dealer that will put it in his store for$25. Then a older person buys that same duck at the antique store for $25. The older person dies. The duck gets auctioned off in a box lot for $3 for 35 items by the family who just wants to get rid of the stupid duck that thier grandmother wasted some of thier inheritance money on.. then the new flea market dealer puts it on his table for $3. And so on and so on. It may last for 100 years back and forth from one resellers hand to another. Did anyone get ripped Off? No thats business. thats our business. And thats what makes time travel possible! see you later. my real name is Don
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anothertreasure
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posted on March 11, 2001 05:22:30 AM
That happened to me and I am angry. I posted this story before, but it fits here too. I got a piece for nothing, put it on eBay for $2.00 and sold it for $40. I was thrilled to death. Saw it a week or two ago with a bid of $300.00 - sheet music no less. Boy, am I angry - AT MYSELF - know what you sell, get a better price book, or get out.
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MrJim
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posted on March 11, 2001 05:44:28 AM
In some states it is illegal to buy knowing the value of the item is more then its worth with the intentions of reselling
This is true. It applies to any person considered to be an expert in their field. (such as an antique dealer, collector, etc) However, in an auction environment, these laws do not apply. Who is to say how much you were willing to bid should someone have bid against you.
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dubyasdaman
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posted on March 11, 2001 05:56:01 AM
If this is true, how does anyone buy ANYTHING and legally resell it for a profit? Grocery stores, gas stations, etc?
I'm not disputing the statement, just trying to understand how it works in a practical sense.
It seems to undermine the very basis of our commerce system. I'm obviously missing the point somewhere, so please help me out.
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abacaxi
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posted on March 11, 2001 06:17:31 AM
dubyasman -
It applies to sales where the buyer's knowledge of the item is considerable AND the seller's knowledge is extremely limited.
An example: A British jeweler offered 15 pounds for an old watch, pointing out it was in need of repair. They fixed the watch ( a 5-pound job) and offered it for sale for 10,000 pounds. What they KNEW when they made the offer was that the engraving on the watch identified it as a very scarce "presentation" watch that had been given to a small group of persons by a very famous person ...
They had sold a similar watch a couple of years earlier, and had written an article on watches that mentioned this particular batch of watches ... they KNEW what the resale value was.
The British courts ruled that they had abused their knowledge when they made such a low offer, and awarded most of the 10,000 pounds to the original owner. I think the jeweler was given the repair costs and a % as a seller's fee.
Unfortunately for the jeweler, they had a habit of doing this, and several persons came out of the woodwork with tales of similar gouging and they are tied up in litigation over a lot of deals, or will have to hand over a large share of the profits from sales of these items.
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musicman12533
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posted on March 11, 2001 08:15:15 AM
I know this is a stupid question-how does one get a buyers name and a sellers name?
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