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 oldsaltydog
 
posted on March 27, 2001 05:09:24 PM new
Could someone please help me with a book? I don't know how to tell if it is a first edition or first printing.

Here is the information located on the other side of the cover page.

Copyright 1999

1 3 5 7 9 10 8 6 4 2

PS3515.E37T78 1999

813 .52--dc21

98-55510

CIP

ISBN 0-684-84921-6

thanks

 
 jmjones6061
 
posted on March 27, 2001 05:23:02 PM new
It is not a first printing - i may still be a first edition, but it appears to be the second printing of the first edition.

If it was a first print of a first edition, the numbers would read:

10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1



Others can probably help more.



Jane

 
 kudzurose
 
posted on March 27, 2001 05:23:02 PM new
It is a first edition - it's a first printing, even if the numbers are listed in that order, as long as the "1" is there. That does not proove it is the very first time that book has appeared in print - you'd have to know, or research it. (In other words, it could have been published earlier by another publisher, if that makes sense?)

Also - it could still be a Book Club edition. If there is ANY question of that, you should research further. Does it have a dustjacket, and does it have the price on it?

kr


 
 Zazzie
 
posted on March 27, 2001 05:35:48 PM new
There is 50 plus copies of that ISBN # for sale on Half.com.

Fictional memiors of Ernest Hemingway--published July 1999

 
 kudzurose
 
posted on March 27, 2001 06:15:57 PM new
saltydog - here is a place to learn a little more about First Editions, and how to recognize them.


http://www.bibliofind.com/privatelabel/firsts.htm#numbers

kr


 
 jmjones6061
 
posted on March 27, 2001 08:13:51 PM new
kudzurose....damn....humbled again!

Every thing I've read showed the numbers had to read 10 to 1. Thanks for the info!


lol.....everytime I start thinking I understand this stuff - I'm so glad that I love to read, not collect - I'd really be taken to the cleaners.....


Jane

 
 kudzurose
 
posted on March 27, 2001 08:35:59 PM new
Hi, Jane - hey, it's nice to humble somebody for a change - it's usually the other way around for me. Thanks!

Dorothy



 
 engelskdansk
 
posted on March 27, 2001 09:14:20 PM new
The numbering line can be any which way: as long as the LOWEST number is "1" it is a first printing of that edition.

10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1

or 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

or 1 3 5 7 9 10 8 6 4 2

If the first edition of a book appeared in 1989, and was reissued in 1999, then the 1999 edition would be a FIRST THUS....

See First Edition Identification
http://www.olg.com/books/firsted.htm



 
 abacaxi
 
posted on March 28, 2001 03:48:58 AM new
It's either a FIRST or a SECOND printing ...

You have the "number line" with a one in it, which is a good thing:

1 3 5 7 9 10 8 6 4 2 is the same as 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1


BUT, a few publishers also put FIRST PRINTEd in addition to the number line. And I do not remember which ones.


 
 engelskdansk
 
posted on March 28, 2001 05:37:32 AM new
abacaxi - Random House starts their numbering line with a 2, BUT the words "first edition" must be present -- in that case it is a first.

Then when they go to the next printing they drop the words "first edition."

They are one of the execeptions, though, as most publishers just leave on the words "first edition" even if it's a 28th printing. Which can make it very confusing for someone who doesn't know what the numbering line means....

 
 mark090
 
posted on March 28, 2001 06:46:32 AM new
Those numbers only mean that it is a First Printing BY THAT PUBLISHER.

(From the ALIBRIS Inventory Manager)
True at first light
Author:Hemingway, Ernest
ISBN: 0684849216
LCCN: 98055510
Publisher: Scribner
Pub. Date: 1999
Pub. Location: New York

From Bill McBride's Pocket Guide to the Indentification of First Editions...

Scribner's uses the numbers sequence to designate First Edition's. If the "1" is present, it is a First Edition

 
 
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