posted on March 31, 2001 02:57:35 AM
Every body has a TOS that they write to meet their needs. However, sometimes you can find the utmost rude, and demanding TOS that can be imagined. Here's what I recently found.
Take the ebay IQ test. Can you read my email address? Can you read the paraghaph below? If so, then you can bid on this item.
The TOS went on to give the fifth degree of warning of nonpayment, non guarentee of merchandise, and time requirements for payment. This was a paragraph about 2 inches high, and the item description was about 20 words long.
posted on March 31, 2001 04:34:46 AM
What gets me is when I see one like in fraidykat's example and the seller has several hundred feedbacks. What, they became successful and now no longer have to work??
posted on March 31, 2001 06:40:40 AM
I don't think there is anything wrong with that. I wouldn't do it. But I can certainly understand his frustration.
This is most likely a reasonably intelligent person, who is constantly saddled with the burden of caring for the stupid. We have heard many tales of bidder stupidity on here.
Our society celebrates stupidity and punishes intelligence. It has even gone so far as applying harsher penalties to smart criminals over stupid ones.
posted on March 31, 2001 11:46:49 AM
What puzzles me is that these rude sellers almost always get bids. Could it be because buyers don't read anything & just look at the pictures.
posted on March 31, 2001 12:11:24 PM
The reason these rude sellers get bids is because a reasonable bidder can read the TOS and realize that the woes mentioned won't apply to them if they follow the TOS.
posted on March 31, 2001 02:37:33 PM
I purchase a lot of fabric on ebay but am currently avoiding a seller who has a "You can trust me I'm an ebay POWERSELLER!" banner on each listing. Yea right. Beware those that deny something they have not been accused of,,,,
posted on March 31, 2001 03:12:09 PM
It's a pity that more bidders don't know about Vrane, as looking at the TOS and the negative feedback given and received can be very helpful.
For example, a seller with 500+ feedbacks, of which 11 were negative/neutrals, for non-returnable goods, misleading discriptions and rudeness. But when you look at the feedback GIVEN... 21 out of 24 are negatives, and quite nasty, including the posting of someone's name and phone number.
So, crappy TOS give some of the story, but I wouldn't bid on this guy's stuff if he paid me!
posted on March 31, 2001 03:48:03 PM
I no longer have much of a TOS and am thinking of ditching the little bit left in my EOA. Practically no one ever reads them. The deadbeats don't follow them either.
A bad TOS should be met with an immediate mouse click on the back button.
posted on March 31, 2001 04:03:04 PM
yeager -- did you check the feedback by that seller? Out of 500+ unique feedback (over 700 total), they have only left 23 feedback.
23 -- ALL complaints or neutrals (also complaints).
I can't figure out why bidders don't bother to do a little "due diligence" before transacting with someone ... a simple check of the feedback (both received and left) is a fairly good indicator of whether or not the transaction might turn out to be problematic.
Of course, just one look at his terms would cause me to hit the back button!
posted on March 31, 2001 04:15:41 PM
Now that we know that threads will be IMMEDIATELY LOCKED once a seller or bidder has been identified, or the auction found so that the seller or bidder can be identified, can we exercise some restraint at showing our amazing search skills?
It is great that you found it Engelskdansk, but if discussion is going to continue, could you please edit your post so that it doesn't show that you found the seller.
A simple eBay search has revealed the Seller under discussion. Because the Community Guidelines do not permit specific identification of Sellers or Bidders, I am locking this thread.
Everyone
I know the new rules are going to take some getting used to. Even though yeager only provided a portion of the auction TOS, it was still enough for me (and other Users) to find the Seller fairly easily. Try and keep things as non-specific as possible, please.
Hippy wannabe 
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