smw
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posted on May 3, 2001 12:12:55 PM
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/010503/sfth080.html
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reddeer
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posted on May 3, 2001 12:20:07 PM
Shabby Nazi Chic
"eBay also announced that it will ban the listing of items closely associated with notorious individuals who have committed murderous crimes within the last 100 years."
I wonder if that also includes books?
Bizarro ..........
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mrpotatoheadd
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posted on May 3, 2001 12:22:53 PM
Any bets on what items they'll ban next?
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reddeer
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posted on May 3, 2001 12:22:55 PM
There's a post on the AB, with a link to the following:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-offensive.html
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smw
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posted on May 3, 2001 12:29:23 PM
Reddeer: OK....time to shut down and get some fresh air....
Susan
Seriously, It seems to me that this new directive has more to do with global expansion than with the primary US site. Yahoo had problems in France with this issue and caved to the Courts on the matter so there is precedence. Looks like an attempt to avoid problems before a new international expansion.
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toke
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posted on May 3, 2001 01:08:42 PM
I see that there's no mention of banning Japanese WWII items. I'm surprised they found a place to stop...given that they're global and all.
Surely there are items to be found everywhere in the world, that will be hateful to someone...somewhere. Why, they hardly scratched the surface.
I'm sure they'll rectify their little oversights, shortly.
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kyms
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posted on May 3, 2001 01:12:37 PM
My Grandfather passed away in December, he was in the War and brought home a Nazi Helmet. Grandma wants me to sell it... I was going to wait awhile, but now I guess I should thow it up tonight.. What do you think? I feel sick about selling it for so many reasons, but Grandma really needs to pay her Gas Bill.
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toke
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posted on May 3, 2001 01:19:55 PM
It's now or never...so now sounds about right, to me. You may hit a last minute buying frenzy, too...
Oops...I'm not familiar with the subject. When you read the article, it says you could sell items without nazi or SS markings...so I guess you need to go over the helmet carefully. You could list it later, if it has no marks.
I still think the buyers will be out now, though...
[ edited by toke on May 3, 2001 01:27 PM ]
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laptopper
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posted on May 3, 2001 01:58:41 PM
Some of these old items DO NOT promote the agenda of the Nazi's, but do represent their existance. Are we now denying that they existed?
I have a number of inmate letters from camps such as Auschwitz and they do have an SS censor mark. Is this type historic document now off limits?
What a miscarriage of history this will be.
[ edited by laptopper on May 3, 2001 01:59 PM ]
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jrb3
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posted on May 3, 2001 02:43:23 PM
"eBay also announced that it will ban the listing of items closely associated with notorious individuals who have committed murderous crimes within the last 100 years."
Does this mean no John Wayne Gacy Paintings?
Dahmer household items? Signed Letters From Serial Killers?
"Summer of Sam" Movies?
I wonder what a murderous crime can be defined as.
How about the thousands of Native Americans the settlers killed. No More thanksgiving Decorations on Ebay.
Makes you wonder how far this farce will go.
Joe B
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capotasto
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posted on May 3, 2001 03:14:23 PM
Just how does, for example, a German helmet with a swastika on it "promote or glorify" Nazis? It is simply a thing.
And what of the 1920s "good luck" coin I have with the old American good luck symbol on it -- which happens to be a swastika.
Oh well, we've been through this before. Ebay will do what it wants to do, whether the reasoning is intelligent or not, makes sense or not, and whether or not there are reasonable exceptions. (In all cases: NOT.)
Ebay doesn't care if it acts reasonably or even makes sense, as long as it continues to make money. It won't lose much by banning these items. Let's pretend Germany was never involved in WWII.
BTW I guess it will still be okay to list my trunkful of Bataan Death March stuff....
Vinnie
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capotasto
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posted on May 3, 2001 03:23:31 PM
Oh, and here's a box of documentary war material that ebay would just love me to list about the rape of Nanking...
http://www.tribo.org/nanking/index.html
But I must remember: I can auction nothing that merely pictures a swastika.
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Microbes
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posted on May 3, 2001 04:53:35 PM
>with notorious individuals who have committed murderous crimes within the last 100 years."
Just last week on the History Channel, they where pushing THEIR ebay auction of the shirt that Clyde (of Bonnie & Clyde) Barker was wearing when they where shot.
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Crystalline_Sliver
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posted on May 3, 2001 04:54:49 PM
Huh, it still works!!
Hey eBay, I find offense to Communist Materials!! Oh yeah, the Commies killed an estimated 90 million people!! More fuel to my argument!! Why don'tcha ban that!!
:\\\\\\\"Crystalline Sliver cannot be the target of spells or abilities.
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Bunnicula
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posted on May 3, 2001 08:57:55 PM
Oh, brother! The thing is, once something like this starts, where does it stop? There is hardly anything under the sun that doesn't offend someone, somewhere, for some reason (or no reason at all, sometimes). Under this new edict a book I sold recently called "U-boats Under the Swastika" would be banned for sale on eBay even though it in no way "glorified" Naziism. Many things about that era will be "verboten" now...
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MrsSantaClaus
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posted on May 3, 2001 09:17:11 PM
Hey - I find used enema bags more offensive than Nazi stuff but you can buy that on eBay.
just my two cents ....
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kathyg
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posted on May 3, 2001 09:59:31 PM
Better to remember, than pretend it never happened.
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capotasto
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posted on May 4, 2001 03:59:51 AM
Time for intelligent adults with WWII items to sell to go to a real auction site.
http://www.militaria-collectibles.com/
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