posted on May 14, 2001 08:00:51 PM
Just ranting here. I turned off the paypal instant notification as soon as I was informed they set it up for everyone.
All worked well until last night. I sent mine out via auction watch and paypal sent theirs too. I've spent all day cooresponding with angry bidders.
I went to my paypal account and it says the option is not activated. I'm sure paypal sent them because pleanty of bidders replied to them. What gives paypal the right to do this without my knowledge??
posted on May 14, 2001 10:29:27 PM
Sigh, I sure hope Paypal isn't sending MY BIDDERS those darn things.
I do so much buying on eBay, I find it very confusing to be getting two separate EOAs on my auction wins. I rely on sorting & filing those e-mails so I know what I have and have not already paid for. Alread I've ended up paying a couple merchants twice . . . luckily they were both honest enough to let me know.
posted on May 15, 2001 01:14:24 AM
*sigh* so that's what happened. wasn't home when some auctions ended tonight. came home to find an email from a buyer, with the subject line 're: congratulations! you have won ...' didn't think the buyer had written that, and i *definitely* went and turned off the prefs for the paypal eoa notice after the original snafu. and, still no notices from ebay on the ended auctions, although it's 5 hours later.
posted on May 15, 2001 04:20:36 AM
I'm not sure if this same thing is happening to you or not, but what I noticed happening with my account was everytime I went to the PayPal sight and had them put their logo in my auctions, it turned off the box I checked asking them not to send out the instant notification. Everytime when I had them insert the logo I had to recheck the no box.
As a result, I copied and pasted the PayPal logo I use and store it on my computer for quick insertion into my auctions. Now I no longer have that problem.
posted on May 15, 2001 11:58:21 AM
When I receive the PayPal "you have won notices" I ignore them as it seems that most applicable sellers do not realize they have this happening. Initially PayPal had a problem that they would be sent (in duplicate) a couple days after EOA. They have corrected this such that they go out immediately. When I use esnipe (etc.) they tend to arrive even before the ebay bid notice.
posted on May 15, 2001 12:11:09 PM
Same thing happened here--my bidders last night all got the automatic PayPal notification. I thought maybe I'd clicked on something I didn't mean to the last time I was in my PayPal account, but maybe I'm not the only one. Anyway, I went back in this morning and found where I could unclick the request. Took a few minutes to hunt it down, but hopefully tonight's bidders won't get their canned "I prefer that you pay through PayPal" notice!
posted on May 15, 2001 09:46:50 PM
I think Damon is away, so here's my take on the answer you'll likely get...
Hi Paislydaisy,
I know you just said you set your preferences, so let me repeat back the same thing you already did so as to imply you were at fault. In order to not send out PayPal notifcations, go to your preferences and turn this off option.
posted on May 15, 2001 10:01:54 PM
I wonder if PayPal has started doing this in response to what eBay has been including in EOA notices.
I don't know when eBay started including the following passage in its end of auction notices:
"Here's what to do next: *PAY NOW WITH EBAY ONLINE PAYMENTS BY BILLPOINT!
Go to:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1232415782&ed=988510638 and click the "Pay Now!" button for the fastest, most convenient way to pay for your item!"
This is an excerpt from an auction that ended on April 28th. This passage is included right after where eBay puts my, and the buyers e-mail info. I offered Billpoint as one of several payment options on this auction. The way eBay presents this, IMO, would make a bidder think that eBay is requireing them to pay using Billpoint. The whole reason Microsoft was brought to court by the Justice Department was because they used their market dominance (in OS) to unfairly promote its other products and services, namely including its browser software with the OS, and putting the logo prominantly on the desktop. This action by eBay is so similar to Microsofts tactics that it's basically thumbing its nose at the DoJ, and at Billpoint's competitors.
posted on May 15, 2001 10:19:44 PM
Petertdavis, I've been thinking the same thing for a long time. The way eBay requires any competing payment service to be in a banner that is 1 1/4 x 1/2 inch is grossly anti-competitive. Meanwhile, if a buyer has BillPoint the space dedicated to this at the top of the auction is
6 1/4 x 1 inch !!!
There are so many other instances of these anti-competitive tactics they are too numerous to mention. The emails. The search function for "Accepts BillPoint." It just goes on-and-on.
Where is the Federal Trade Commission? I think there is a sign on the door that says "Be back 2004."
posted on May 15, 2001 10:27:10 PM
I don't have Paypal insert anything in my auctions ~ my auctions just say that I take paypal ~ I have no paypal logo ~ and Paypal does not know my ebay password!
posted on May 15, 2001 10:34:28 PM
Intersting... someone else just sent me this note:
"I also noticed with this change that eBay has gotten much better at end of auction notices. The ones with bids come first. And, BIN is almost instant. I think that's part of the strategy, too."
posted on May 16, 2001 05:45:03 AM
This is what I got today:
Dear PayPal Member,
We recently showed you a web page when you logged in to your PayPal
account to introduce you to our new "Smart Logos" for eBay (tm)
auctions. The bottom of the web page provided you with a button to
click on if you wanted PayPal to switch you from Standard Logos to
Smart Logos.
Unfortunately, due to a bug that has since been corrected, our Winning Bidder notification feature was also activated for anyone who switched to Smart Logos using this page. Winning Bidder Notification is a free feature from PayPal that automatically
emails your winning bidders on your behalf and provides them with a link to a secure PayPal payment page.
We noticed that Winning Bidder Notification is currently turned on for your account. If you intended to activate this feature, you do
not need to take any action. However, if you did not mean to turn on Winning Bidder Notification, it is easy to disable it. Simply login to PayPal, go to the Profile subtab, and select the "Bidder Notification" page. Then click on the link marked "details" and you'll be taken to a page where you can check a box to disable
future notifications. You can still use Smart Logos or any of PayPal's other automated auction services whether or not you choose to use Winning Bidder Notification.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you or your buyers, and we also want to assure you that PayPal is committed to providing you with the best payment tools possible. You are important to us, and we want to continue to earn your business.
