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 vargas
 
posted on May 21, 2001 11:02:25 AM new
I need the knowledge and advice of AWers who know eBay's rules inside-and-out!

I have a number of potential buyers, on a regular basis, who request more information on how to use the widgets I sell on eBay. These widgets don't come with printed instructions. But I do have a pamphlet that describes how to use these widgets.

Questions:
1. Can I offer these pamphlets, free of charge on my About Me page and give an address to send a SASE?

2. Can I put a link to my About Me page in my listings saying I have this free-no-obligation, everyone-can-have-one
pamphlet, visit my About Me page to find out how to get one?


Thanks in advance for your help!


 
 alchemy
 
posted on May 21, 2001 11:12:39 AM new
It is a simple answer but compounded:

NO - you can't ask customers to email for more info.

But - you can link to your site that has the manual printed for browser reading. That is OK.

The methods that you mention will look like a mailing list gathering - which I am sure you are trying.

If the pseudo-e-bay cops see the the listing that you want - YOU WILL BE REPORTED to the pinks. And if you continue you will be suppended.

If e-Bay can't make their 30 cents on each and every view of an item - Meg W. will come and beat you. (for a fee of course)
 
 magazine_guy
 
posted on May 21, 2001 11:24:55 AM new
Here's their policy on giveaways:

******
Bonuses, giveaways, raffles and prizes
Listings that promote bonus items, giveaways, or random drawings or prizes as an enticement for bidders are not permitted on eBay as these promotions are highly regulated and may be unlawful in many states. eBay itself may run such promotions on the site, and may grant authorization to its partners or third party companies to run promotions, that comply with applicable laws.

Policy: These types of listings are not permitted and will be ended. The insertion fee will be automatically credited for that listing.
******

So, it appears that you can't promote the giveaway as a freebie in the auction listing. You can, of course, mention that the winning bid price INCLUDES the pamphlet that will give the buyer tons of neat ideas on how to use the product.

Then, on your About Me page, there doesn't appear to be any prohibition on mentioning that you have the brochure, and will send it to any that inquire. There are different standards for what you do on your About Me page and your auction listings.

Hope that helps!


Steve
[email protected]

OAUA
http://www.auctionusers.org
[ edited by magazine_guy on May 21, 2001 11:26 AM ]
 
 vargas
 
posted on May 21, 2001 11:36:03 AM new
Thanks for the responses so far.

Nope,alchemy no attempt at a mailing list. I don't want or need a mailing list. (Although I agree that Meg probably wants her pound of flesh.) Unfortunately, I don't have rights to reproduce the material in browser form.


Steve
I read the bonus/giveaway rules, they don't really appear to address this issue. The pamphlet would not be an enticement to bid. It would be free to anyone who asks for one, whether they bid or not. Listing would simply direct people to About Me page to see address to send for it. I'm sure eBay wouldn't want my mailing address in my listings!

Again, thanks for the insights!











 
 unknown
 
posted on May 21, 2001 11:43:21 AM new
Ebay told me that an EMail link for more infor is acceptable as your ONE permitted extra info link.

But, I would just post the instructions on a web site somehwere and point the users there.


 
 jwoodcrafts
 
posted on May 21, 2001 11:54:55 AM new
Why can't you say in your listing that it comes with instructions?


http://www.geocities.com/sandcastless/crafts.html
 
 dubyasdaman
 
posted on May 21, 2001 11:57:57 AM new
Is this eBay legal?

Probably not, but it really depends on which ebaY CS reps field the inevitable complaint(s). Two different reps will likely give 2 different answers. You can always give it a try and see what happens. ebaY might pull the listing(s) in which case you WOULD NOT want to try it again unless you're prepared to be NARU.







 
 vargas
 
posted on May 21, 2001 12:02:41 PM new
jwoodcrafts Why can't you say in your listing that it comes with instructions?

Not everyone needs or wants the brochure. The requests are from people who are new to these widgets and their use.

I'd also like to drive people to my About Me page.







 
 dubyasdaman
 
posted on May 21, 2001 12:08:43 PM new
Why not SELL the instructions in a separate auction? Information is a BIG seller on ebaY and elsewhere. When you bought Windows, did Microsoft include a manual? No. You have to buy one. If it works for Bill, why not you?



 
 vargas
 
posted on May 21, 2001 12:14:38 PM new
I don't have rights to the pamphlet. I can't sell it, but I can give it away.

Thanks again to everyone for responding!

 
 skip555
 
posted on May 21, 2001 12:37:40 PM new
can you scan the pamphlet and then e-mail a zipped copy, or if you want to invest in adobe accrabat you could do a Pdf. file to those that inquore
and in your item description you could say something like "for operatinal instructions prior to buiding emial me and I will e-mail you a pdf. operatinal guide"

 
 godzillatemple
 
posted on May 21, 2001 12:41:38 PM new
Why not just say in your listing "a manual describing the use of this widget is available to the winning bidder on request, free of charge."

Barry
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The opinions expressed above are for comparison purposes only. Your mileage may vary....
 
 vargas
 
posted on May 21, 2001 12:55:26 PM new
Thanks for the suggestion, godzillatemple.

Is some eBay CS drone likely to interpret that as a bonus?





 
 Islander
 
posted on May 21, 2001 12:56:55 PM new
Your potential buyers might likely be satisfied (and induced to bid) with a quick email response that describes some of the uses for the widget. You can note in your reply that a pamphlet with more info is included to winning bidders.

You can can this message and send it every time someone inquires.

I'm a little unclear on why a whole bunch of people would want the pamphlet, all by itself, and go to the trouble of sending a SASE. But then, maybe I'm dense.

[ edited by Islander on May 21, 2001 12:57 PM ]
 
 vargas
 
posted on May 21, 2001 01:02:04 PM new
Thanks, Islander.

In answer to why: some folks need pictures, in addition to words. I can relate. My kids have to operate all the electronics in the house.
There aren't enough pictures in the instruction manuals for me! Maybe that's why I married an engineer.




edited to fix UBB
[ edited by vargas on May 21, 2001 01:02 PM ]
 
 
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