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 smartcom
 
posted on June 3, 2001 02:15:37 PM
Hi people,

How do some sellers accept credit card payments without using 3rd party services such as ***Pal or B***point?

Is it done simply by email? I find that insecure. Please enlighten me.


dude.

 
 Zazzie
 
posted on June 3, 2001 02:25:38 PM
Many sellers with merchant accounts have the secure purchase sites that you see many sites have.

Some have the buyer send the #s in 2 emails
 
 jrb3
 
posted on June 3, 2001 02:29:11 PM
Propay allows you to accept credit cards directly. You can use it for Online or B&M use. But fees are higher and that clearing house fee is tough unless you do large number of charges.
Joe B

 
 skip555
 
posted on June 3, 2001 02:29:54 PM
dude
you have to get a merchant account just like any other business. Rules have probably changed some since I got mine but the best ones are thru the banks and you have to be a "real"business storefront,licencess ,business bank account ect they are also relectunt to issue to internet only business due to fruad potenial.
There are other 3rd party groups offering merchant accounts and they are less restrictive but you will pay higher rates. they also often require you to buy terminal from them at a exorbitant price
unless you are doing high volume you will find pay-pal rates to be very resonable

 
 kidsfeet
 
posted on June 3, 2001 02:50:33 PM
I have an "internet only" merchant account, and the fees are not bad.

I run a home business, and do not have a storefront.

There ARE merchant providers out there that will issue an account under those circumstances.

 
 skip555
 
posted on June 3, 2001 02:58:16 PM
kidsfeet
what percetn of your gross cc sales do you pay your provider ?
not just the percent per sale but the total amount they collect of the gross?

 
 capotasto
 
posted on June 3, 2001 03:17:25 PM
"I have an "internet only" merchant account, and the fees are not bad."

"not bad" don't sound good enough.
I'll stay with paypal.

 
 vargas
 
posted on June 3, 2001 04:15:17 PM
I have an "internet only" merchant account, too. It's through a bank. The charge is 25 cents per transaction plus 2.39%. The monthly minimum is $25. That's it.
There's no monthly statement fee.

I paid a $149 application fee and the account was approved within 24 hours.




 
 xenainfla
 
posted on June 3, 2001 05:02:33 PM
I have my account through a bank also. Merchant percentage is lower than Paypal also. I also accept Discover & American Express, both of which seem to be used the most by my customers.

My customers call me on the phone with their credit card information. I strongly discourage them giving that info in emails, either one or two - it just isn't secure.

I like having them call me, as I get a chance to actually talk to the customer and they like knowing they are dealing with an actual person.

I accept Paypal only for small purchases, as I did not want to upgrade, since I already had a merchant account with lower fees than Paypal.

I also have a website where if purchased through the website, you can give your credit card over a secure server.

 
 celebrityskin
 
posted on June 3, 2001 05:06:00 PM
"I strongly discourage them giving that info in emails, either one or two - it just isn't
secure. "

What can you do is ask them to break the # in half, and send it over two e-mails.

 
 yisgood
 
posted on June 3, 2001 06:08:11 PM
As a merchant who accepted credit cards, I have read lots of articles about Internet fraud. I recently came across one but now I don't remember which it was, that surprised me. It said that though everyone warns you to never send your CC info via email, there has not been a single reported case of a CC "hijacked" via email. The hackers would have to sift through thousands of email packets hoping that one of them *might* be CC info. There are far easier ways for hackers to get this info. So I would guess that sending it in two emails would probably be safe. But to be even safer, I used to tell my customers to send two emails to two different email IDs. In the first they would send the first 8 numbers and 8 fake ones. In the second they would send 4 fake numbers, then the second 8 numbers and the month and year of expiration. It would take a real dedicated hacker to read every email in two different accounts of two different ISPs to put this all together.

http://www.ygoodman.com
[email protected]
 
 twinsoft
 
posted on June 3, 2001 06:11:51 PM
I was just looking at this site. Opinions?

http://merchant-systems.com/

(They also have a referral program, but I deleted the referrer's ID.)
 
 kidsfeet
 
posted on June 3, 2001 07:04:26 PM
skip555,

I pay 2.45% of the amount charged, plus a .30 transaction fee to my merchant bank, and a .10 per transaction gateway fee to Authorize.net, my virtual terminal.

I have a minimum of $25.00 per month in fees (no problem there), and a $7.50 statement fee. There was a $149.99 application fee and I don't rent any equipment. It is done all through the computer.

For an example, last month I had approx $4,700.00 in cc sales and my total fees were approx $140.00 to my merchant provider and $21.00 or so to authorize.net.

So, it ends up being around 2.9%. BUT I have more control than with paypal, or any other third party payment service. I have had one chargeback attempt in the past year (my first, and it is still pending), and my merchant bank is bending over backwards to help me.

It is definately worth it for me.

 
 
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