posted on June 4, 2001 11:27:28 PM
I've been using computers since the mid 80's;I've programmed them and I work in an IT department, but this one takes the cake.
I kept getting errors with IE 5.1 some internal error baloney and it would shut down. Ran the self-repair. No luck. Used Netscape to upgrade to 5.5. Same problem; ran self-repair same problem.
Get this; changed off of my home page which is Yahoo's main page and....no problem. Gone!
I use my yahoo as the new home page and everything's ok until I return to Yahoo and then it crashes.
Anyone else have this wacko problem? Yahoo is sinking and MS is stinking or vice versa--love to know why this one happens.
I have my home page as Yahoo as well, and once in a while it seems to make things go a little odd, or shut down the program. One thing that Yahoo seems to do is to self-refresh; I run Zone Alarm, and have it set to lock after 15 minutes of inactivity. All the open windows in IE 5.5 all are just as they were before it locked; except the window with Yahoo running. It had obviously tried to refresh itself for some strange reason, and was on "cannot find a page". This happens consistently so I know that it is truly trying to refresh.
It seems that it is during this self-refresh that sometimes I get glitches. IE 5.5 seems to be sensitive to things that self refresh - I also run Auction Trakker; in order for all the processes to work properly, especially the snipe feature, it has a time synchronization function which self-activates on a schedule I set (i.e. every 30 minutes, or less if I am sniping). When it activates, often IE 5.5 will crash. I'm thinking that this may be the same type of error that Yahoo's refresh is causing?
Anyway, I would still recommend recording the error, and check Microsofts Knowledge Base of known issues (It is HUGE - I've used the library several times and found solutions to problems I was SURE couldn't be solved). I just haven't bothered looking this one up as it hasn't annoyed me enough yet. The URL for Microsoft's library is here; I think you will find it invaluable to bookmark:
posted on June 5, 2001 09:11:22 AM
I think I ran into something like that & the prob was a corrupted msjava file.
IE was really flaky & an upgrade didn't help at all. I think what I had to end up doing was to unpack one of the .cab files & find the right file. I know you have to rename the orig & then install the new one.
This also did something to the installer program & I had a hard time updating diff things... Like I needed to install 3 times b4 they would take
Anyway... try a few searches on there for "msjava.dll" "javams.dll"... I know the error code was what got me to the right thing... something like that.
posted on June 5, 2001 09:33:43 AM
I don't exactly miss Yahoo's home page and I think it's probably something on that page that is causing this problem. I was told that someone else has the same problem in Yahoo's email on a certain machine.
FWIW I think this was something that just got worse over time. I might be due to to do a complete reinstall of the OS to clear out all the cobwebs. Not something I am looking forward to, but not very difficult either. Most folks don't realize their systems corrupt over time.
posted on June 5, 2001 09:46:58 AM
mballai et al. -- I'm going to take advantage of your obvious prowess with Windows and ask an unrelated question
Recently, while going through Windows Explorer just cleaning stuff up, I ran across a file in "Downloaded Program Files" under the Windows file. File is named Internet Explorer Classes for Java, total file size 32Mb. Under "Status" it lists Damaged.
On March 22, a MS service guy helped me install a new 'scripting engine' when I was having trouble running the Update feature at MS. That problem was nicely fixed. However, since the damaged file mentioned above has no date associated with it (because it is damaged) I can't tell if that file came before or after the fix.
What would this damaged file mean to my browsing capabilities, should I fix it, and if yes, how?? I have my Win95 disk, but have never ventured into cab files, etc.
posted on June 5, 2001 09:57:58 AM
Wouldn't touch a damaged file. My guess it was never installed. If everything is working ok (or seems to be)leave it alone.
I believe that the average Win computer has plenty of files that should be handled in the same manner as you teach a kid when he finds a gun: Don't touch;tell an adult.
posted on June 5, 2001 10:01:40 AM
Any time you perform an upgrade, it is always a good idea to close all applications and end as many tasks as possible with (Ctrl-Alt-Del in Windows).
Reason being is that if a program is using utilizing a system file or .DLL, these files will not get overwritten sometimes during the upgrade process.
posted on June 5, 2001 10:35:13 AM
Hmmm! Why didn't I think of that? Probably a goofy DAT file. Will have to try that tonight.
[ edited by mballai on Jun 5, 2001 10:37 AM ]
