posted on June 22, 2001 02:26:14 PM new
I saw this in the TOS for an item on eBay that I am interested in...
"PAYPAL is also accepted but there’s an extra charge if you pay this way(2.2% of winning bid + .30). I’m charged by PAYPAL so I have to pass this charge along "
Isn't this against eBay rules or PayPal's rules? How can I counter with this seller on this issue?
posted on June 22, 2001 02:34:45 PM newReport him to both.
As it is, he's being upfront about his charges, so if you don't want to pay an added fee to use PayPal, you can pay by another method.
If you report him, he'll be warned not to charge an additional fee for PayPal, and he may very well just raise his shipping/handling charge for everybody, regardless of the payment method they use.
Good for payPal, but not so good for those using alternate payment methods who are forced to subsidize PayPal's customers against their will (and their own best interests).
posted on June 22, 2001 02:43:14 PM new
Yes report him to both places. He's against the TOS on eBay and PayPal and if he's allowed to continue, we all suffer. Eventually eBay will tell us we can't use PayPal at all and PayPal will up their fees!
So he raises his handling. How do we know he hasn't already done that?
Someone wanting to charge me their fees because they choose to use PayPal? I think not. I use them and don't charge any fees to my customers. I also don't charge handling and I haven't upped my shipping.
Include a copy of the auction stating the terms in your letter. Better yet, send it from the auction page, where it says, send this auction to a friend. It'll get there without changes.
posted on June 22, 2001 02:47:15 PM newSomeone wanting to charge me their fees because they choose to use PayPal?
I don't believe that is the case here. The seller is offering PayPal as one of several payment options. The buyer is the one who is choosing to use PayPal.
posted on June 22, 2001 03:43:03 PM new
MYOB! If ya don't like the TOS, don't bid! Now everybody wants to go whine to Mama Meg!
Ugh! Yuck! As Pogo once said: "we have met the enemy..."
posted on June 22, 2001 07:12:00 PM newtomwiii why so sensitive? Do you have the same terms?
Mr PH he didn't state he chose to pay that way. He asked how he could counter with the seller. I take it he never did bid on the item. Wouldn't it be a crock if he was the seller and just wanted to see what opinions were? LOL!
Personally, I wouldn't bid on an auction with terms like that but there are so many people out there who don't give a flip about TOS, etc.
These same people wonder why Geocities deletes their pictures or why they're NARU from eBay eventually.
TOS are in place for a reason. Don't like it? Don't join the site. But don't smack it to your bidders just because you choose to accept PayPal. Yes, there it is again, the word choose. The seller chose to accept it and by doing so chose to abide by their TOS, the bidder shouldn't be punished for that.
posted on June 22, 2001 07:13:35 PM new
If you wanted to be nice, you could "ask seller a question" and tell him that he is in violation of both eBay and PayPal policies, and that he risks a warning and/or suspension. You could also let him know that it's perfectly OK to offer a discount for checks/money orders--he just can't state an extra charge for credit cards.
posted on June 22, 2001 07:27:52 PM new
I can't imagine reporting someone for this. For one thing, just because a power makes a rule, it doesn't make the rule fair or just.
This seller is just trying to recoup her/his fees.
If a seller is selling an obvious phony; or takes money and doesn't ship; or.... sure, report them and try to keep the waters clean.
In this instance, just don't bid. Or, if it still works out to a good deal on something you want, bid, pay, if all goes well, leave pos fdback. And then if you want, tell the seller that their tos almost kept you from bidding and why.
I don't do this (chg customers the fees outright) because I don't want to be hassled by the powers that be, but I've recently added a handling charge on items I sell that I pretty much know will go for less than $20.
This seller is either honest, brave, or ignorant, depending on your point of view. Considering the number of sellers out there that don't tell you shipping, but charge $15 to ship a cd, etc., this stuff is way mild.