posted on October 2, 2001 09:02:43 PM
Having trouble loading your images on to Ebay? Well, lots of are! According to Ebay they have haulted their 3rd party imaging due to a virus NIMDA foung this afternoon on IPIX. See Ebay anouncement board for details and virus removal. They expect a "FEW" hour delay and claim no one browsing on IPIX was contaminated. Not to sound uncaring but maybe this should be something for Congress to think about as these acts are also effecting our livelyhood.
posted on October 3, 2001 12:21:37 AM
Sorry, but you don't so sound much uncaring as just plain ignorant. Congress is on the verge of seriously curtailing some civil liberties in the name of fighting terrorism. Most Americans can understand this trade-off (easier wiretaps, electronic surveillance, increased incarceration) if they apply to REAL terrorists only. Trying to treat these stupid punks the same as those who MURDERED 7000 innocent people is just foolish.
If someone can show these guys launched Nimda as part of a terrorist campaign to bring down the government or murder people in the name cause, then maybe they are terrorists, and these new laws will be fine. If it's (much more likely) a couple of punk kids, then we already have laws to deal with that, and trying to imply that they are terrorists serves no real purpose.
posted on October 3, 2001 12:24:28 AM
Sorry, double post. Rather, it was a double post, i wanted to delete it, but I could only edit it. I had always wondered why people wrote, "sorry, double post," when there wasn't one; now i understand.
[ edited by jrome on Oct 3, 2001 12:28 AM ]
posted on October 3, 2001 03:56:10 AM
It's just IPIX fer crissakes...this is not an act of "terrorism" no matter how much Dubya wants to make the sheep think it is so he can push through the rest of his agenda. To compare a hacker putting NIMDA on IPIX to a real terrorist blowing up people is definitely ignorant and says volumes about the person doing the comparison.
I figure if a person's ignorance of the web is to the point that they have to post their pics on a stupid and expensive service like IPIX, they deserve whatever they get.
Your post was rather abrasive, to put it mildly. I started using ipix for my pictures, just this week, because it is free for the first picture and they don't take an Most of my auctions only use one picture so for me that's not expensive, that cheap! Very Cheap. And just because I do that, does not mean that I am ignorant, nor do I "deserve what I get".
I do not use it but makes me to play ping pong every time i go to a listing page from work! We have bloody crazy proxy/firewall combination which won't let install anything and I have this popup saying "Do you want to install some AxtiveX?" Saying "Yes" won't do any good so i say "No" and I have a fraction of a second to press stop in a browser when loading status bar disappears! If I am late I am taken to a generic ebay "Input Error" page.
posted on October 3, 2001 01:54:55 PM
Sorry, but when these "kids and or punks" cause millions or billions of dollars worth of damage as a result of the viruses they write and spread, they must be considered terrorists of sorts. There actions cause hardships to people and conmpanies in the form of lost data and revenue.
posted on October 3, 2001 02:22:24 PM
Yuppers computer virus spearding is no less a terrorist act then what was done in NYC..
Lifes are still hurt tons of money still lost and millions and billions in damages caused each time one comes along and the $$ amount of loss get more and more as the internet grows..
posted on October 3, 2001 05:43:47 PM
thdonahue5157989 -
Never blame anything on terrorists if it can be explained by laziness and stupidity.
Microsoft's IIS server is known to be buggy, and the patch to the software that could have averted the IPIX problem has been available since AUGUST, 2000 ... over a year.
IPIS is solidly to blame for not having IT personnel smart enough to realize what a buggy piece of crapware they were running. And for having IT personnel unwilling to take the time to install patches ... there is always the risk that a patch will have its own bugs, but that's the prioce you pay for running Microsoft products.
posted on October 3, 2001 07:57:20 PM
dman3 and Computerboy:
Well, if your attitude sticks, then we kiss goodbye any new laws to fight real terrorism. People will not stand to have their civil liberties trampled so we can try and stop underage script-kiddies from spreading their havoc.
I tried to make a sensible argument in my first post, let me make it a little more clear.
The guy who wrote Nimda slowed down some parts of the internet. Hyperventilating fools find some stupid analyst to make the claim that it cost, "Billions." Like when Yahoo went down for 3 hours and it cost billions (pretty amazing for a company with, what, $1 billion in annual revenue?).
You are obviously easily misled by our equally sheep-like media. These guys unleashing these viruses are criminals. They should be found, arrested, tried, and if convicted, sentenced.
They are not terrorists, and more than a car thief is a terrorist, or a deadbeat dad. They are criminals. The meaning of terrorism in the current context is far, far different. In fact, you can only (currently) be prosecuted as a terrorist if the secy. of state designates your organization as a terrorist organization.
Look at the bottom of this page in order to educate yourself on the meaning of terrorism under our laws: http://www.state.gov/www/global/terrorism/fto_info_1999.html
And please, don't post on the net anymore. Irrational, poorly supported, smug arguments like yours are the reasons congressman and senators ignore much of the email from their constituents.
