posted on February 2, 2002 08:01:45 PM new
I got my first neg today -- I expected it, the guy has been a jerk since day one. I didn't expect him to lie in his comments.
So he posts his comment:
****Disturbed individual WILL SEND 'SICK' and 'THEATENING' email..AVOID.. ****
Complete lies (and not spelled correctly either).
So I post my repsonse:
Wow! My First Negative! Wish I'd earned it! Shame this guy is lying.
To which he follows with:
Perverted phonecalls, multiple email addresses, threatening mail. YOU DESERVE IT
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What sucks is that I don't get the last word. I don't get to rebut his little final lie (I've NEVER called him at all). I sent a message to eBay to have this libel removed, but doubt they will do anything. And SquareTrade won't work.
My question. Can I send warnings to other sellers that he's bidding on? He's done what he did to me in the past it seems.
posted on February 2, 2002 08:20:00 PM new
Suggestion would be to copy any and all mail between you two and send it to [email protected]. I would also suggest you do not contact other buyers of auctions he is bidding on, as that could be construed as auction interference. As per how you feel, you have every right to be upset. Make your case with ebay and hopefully they will remove the neg...it is done...sometimes...
posted on February 2, 2002 08:20:35 PM new
When someone leaves feedback like "this guy is a psycho-stalker-sicko", they are the ones who wind up looking disturbed. And invariably, if they've been around a while, you'll see that they will have left similar feedback or responses to sellers before. It seldom happens once. So what happens is that when people look at your neg, they'll click to the item #, and maybe on to the complainers FB history. Like that. When I see FB like that, it automatically sends me a red flag and not about the guy who received it.
posted on February 2, 2002 08:38:12 PM new
Do not contact any other bidders of his items or sellers that he is bidding on. This will get you into hot water fast.
I can read a negative for what it is worth and when they start sounding like the one you got, I seriously discount it.
Anyone and I mean anyone can get undeserved negative. I even got one myself. I was very angry and felt guilty for letting something get out of my control, I felt like here was something that I could have or should have done. But after a couple of days, I looked at it for what it was really was, one guys view of a transcaction that he thought went wrong. Although I disagree and never got a chance to make matters better for the buyer before he fired off a negative, that is what it truly is.
I still take my feedback very seriously and it hurt to get that first negative, especially when it caame out of left field - late in the game (40 days) and no contact was ever attempted to resolve a perceived issue (that would have been easily resolved).
Fortunately, I have added a few more positives since then, and the sting of the negative is going away.
But please do not stoop to the levels of the eBayers that try to ruin other auctions because they were unfairly treated to someone. Please let each buyer take care of themselves. Now if someone contacts you asking for your reasons and thoughts on the guy that gave you a negative, by all means, tell the truth as impartially and unemotionally as possible.
Take the high road, act and be the professional. In the long run, that is the best way. And, after all, it is the long run that counts over the small battles.
posted on February 2, 2002 09:09:30 PM new
In another post ( Private Feedback ) you indicate you will more than likely use this feature to hide the fact that you received this feed back! So why in the world did you come here and publish it for everyone to read?
posted on February 2, 2002 09:13:20 PM new
Thanks all. I'm a little calmer now. I just find it silly that this one loophole -- the psychotic buyer (or seller) -- cannot be plugged by ebay. Basically they want you to spend time and money going to court to prove that something was libelous and with a court order they will remove the feedback. Otherwise, "Sorry, it's out of our hands." What a crappy system.
I wrote eBay and asked them to leave the negative, but remove the comments themselves. We'll see what happens.
I was wondering about the interference, so I asked here before doing anything. Glad I did -- I think I'll just let it all go (as best I can). eBay has a shoot first ask questions later policy about some things and I don't want to fall victim to that.
posted on February 2, 2002 09:18:28 PM new
In that other thread, I mentioned that that would be a valid reason to do so and that I was considering it.
As for posting it here, you guys are not potential buyers (most likely) and peiklk is not my ebay name. The two are completely disconnected.
I don't mind people reading the text of what he read. I do mind people who are considering buying something from me changing their minds because of lies.
posted on February 2, 2002 09:29:00 PM new
We've all received or at least most of us,undeserved neg's. The best thing to do is post a responce in your own defense and let it go at that. Just work harder in the future to avoid anymore! Most buyer's will overlook A Neg. or two. And don't think for a minute there a no buyers here! I consider myself a seller, but every time I need something this is were I check first to buy it.
posted on February 2, 2002 09:32:41 PM new
Yeah, I'm not mad about the undeserved neg. It's the comments that get me.
And I realize that there are buyers here -- I'm a buyer. But this is anonymous in that I can share the comments here without it linking to my ebay id.
[ edited by peiklk on Feb 2, 2002 09:33 PM ]
posted on February 2, 2002 09:46:17 PM new
Undeserved comment's and lies go along with undeserved Neg's. You can't one without the other! In almost 700 deals I've received 1 Neg. From a buyer who said her item was damaged. Well, it was listed as damaged. So what did she expect to get? I offered her a refund,just return it, She wouldn't! I told her to turn it in for insurance, she wouldn't! She was bound to keep it and get her money back too. When I wouldn't give her back her money and let her keep it too.Well you can imagine what kind of SOB I turned out to be when she left feed back!
posted on February 2, 2002 09:56:39 PM new
You say you couldn't get the last word. I do believe you can go to the feed back you left for him and add to it.
posted on February 2, 2002 10:05:43 PM new
Ignore this bidder. Everyone else will. Nobody believes this sort of stuff. If it were true you would have certainly gotten more such feedback.
posted on February 3, 2002 03:21:16 AM new
it will fade down the page and be out of sight before you know it.
when I received my negs (2), the feedback I received after that seemed even more positive, kind of like those buyers to trying to make up for that one bad buyer.
I know that sounds silly but it seems that way to me.
posted on February 3, 2002 06:07:37 AM new
Most people who look at your feedback will think the guy who left you that lovely phrase of admiration (hehe) is the wacko. I wouldnt let it bother you. I have a Neg. like that as well, the person said that I "cussed" in emails and threatend her. I was rather pleased that I was such a scary person! : )
posted on February 3, 2002 07:48:46 PM new
my brother in law had a problem like that. he had it removed through arbitration. it costs like $15, but if it means that much to you, it can probably be done.
posted on February 4, 2002 09:29:52 AM new
Not in this case. Arbitration would mean the buyer is a civilized human being willing to enter arbitration. He's a blithering idiot and as such cannot be held to intelligent standards.
