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 asianproducts
 
posted on February 20, 2002 06:31:32 AM new
Some of you HTML wizards may know a bit more about this than me.

I'm using tables on my eBay pages - everything in the tables as a matter of fact.

When the page loads, it starts loading all the pics at once - my selling pics and my link gifs.

Is there any way to prioritize the pic loading so that the item pics load first - then the less important gifs, paypal logos etc?

Also, will AW templates help this situation at all?

Many thanks All!

 
 asianproducts
 
posted on February 20, 2002 06:35:00 AM new
Another small thing.

When my tables load it does it in 1 chunk - which means there's a delay of quite some time before any of my auction info comes up.

Would like to have:

a) text comes up

then after 30 seconds or so

b) the pics load in.

This way people can at least read while waiting for the pics.

Anybody know what I mean?

 
 twinsoft
 
posted on February 20, 2002 06:41:03 AM new
If you specify the width and height of all images using width="XX" height="XX" attributes the text can load before the images display. You can specify a lower-quality file to load first using the LOWSRC attribute. For example, have the page load a black and white or grayscale image first, then replace it with your regular pic. Of course, if you avoid using tables you won't have those problems.

 
 kahml
 
posted on February 20, 2002 06:54:45 AM new
Agree: specifying the dimensions of the images will always help a browser load a page better. You cannot have it load text first and images next, there are no controls for that. In fact, some image hosting servers can get your images loaded faster than eBay can get all of their stuff loaded.

Disagree: avoid using tables. Most browsers do a "pre-read" of the page to determine what they have to load. Since a table is a defined structure, they can load it faster (using the same principle as specifying dimensions for images). Since this is entirely relative - based on the complexity of the tables and the browser - your results will vary.

I read in some 1500-page HTML book a long time ago that tables load faster. I time trialed it with several large listings (clearing cache between each attempt). If you are on a dial-up line, a long page of paragraphs with images will usually take longer to render than a page of nested tables with images.


 
 asianproducts
 
posted on February 20, 2002 08:12:48 AM new
Hi, thanks for those tips.

I like the tables - they look nice and are easy to work with in Frontpage.

But there's still the issue of my gifs loading at the same time as my eBay item jpegs.

Is there any way to have the Item Jpeg load 1st then (the less important) Gifs 2nd?

Thanks All.

 
 sun818
 
posted on February 20, 2002 11:28:09 AM new
Oh my... the dreaded FrontPage. You can pre-load images using JavaScript, but that only adds to the bulky HTML you have using FrontPage. FrontPage is notorious for bloating your HTML code. Your descriptions will load much faster if you optimize the HTML. For example, take out all the font tags unless you really need it. I once reduced a 100k FrontPage HTML file down to 75k by removing all the excess code.

 
 alldings
 
posted on February 20, 2002 02:24:02 PM new
I'm an HTML dummy and I have no idea what tables are. One thing I can share is I'd never wait 30+ seconds for a page to load or read a description that is more than a single paragraph long.
 
 asianproducts
 
posted on February 20, 2002 10:11:26 PM new
Sun818,

Is there any 'simple' way to optimize my Frontpage code? There's no way I can go thru manually taking them out...

Or is there some shareware out there that can do this for me?

Thanks again!

 
 kahml
 
posted on February 21, 2002 06:08:07 AM new
I'm really not sure if there is any "shareware" to do this.

The only way I know that the HTML is reduced down to the bare minimum is to actually look at the code (using the HTML tab), make the change, and then check it using "Preview in Browser". This does take some time and practice.

I will let you know that you should not take the entire FrontPage-generated page and use that as your description - that's a hindrance rather than a help. You should only take what shows up between the BODY tags - and yes, that means selectively cutting and pasting.

But, once you have what you want, you've got a template, which can be reused with just a few changes.
[ edited by kahml on Feb 21, 2002 09:02 AM ]
 
 
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