posted on July 9, 2002 11:30:09 PM
90 days??!! I had a newbie do a buy it now on a dvd 60 days ago. I had another one so I put another one a10 days later. It was selling higher than the one the newies won. I get an email from the newbie saying
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I had already bought this movie. Last week. Why is it on again for sell I want mine and I hope your keeping the end of this bargain too.
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I told her I have 2 of them, and this one is going higher than what you paid, replies back
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So what are you saying do you still have the movie for me or not? So I can pay for it.
I also know that ones
you sell something your are bind by their rules to go through with it.The price I bought the movie for is $18.45
and that's all I will pay for it I'm willing to keep my end of the bargain.
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I said OK.Well 15 days later (30 days after the auction) no payment, so I file NPB. Still nothing. So 15 days later I filed FVF. Re-listed, the item is sold, gone to a buyer with 400 +. Then today (20 days later) I get this.
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Well I'm back I was out of the country for a while had an emergency to attend
to in Mexico where there is no computers and no phones. Well I'm still
interesting in the DVDI hope you still have it I was the highest
bidder As you know, the 90 days
haven't expire yet. I do hope you are still holding it, for by law, you are to hold the item for 90 days. Failure to sell me the item will result in a negative feedback, and will report you to ebays for breach of contract.
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WHAT 90 DAY POLICY AT EBAYS!! This buyer was a obvious deadbeat, can someone verify if there is a 90 day hold policy in ebays? I dont even after the dvd anymore.
I swear the crazies are out in full force this summer, like the deadbeat who files squaretrade for a feedback I never left him, to a guy who's a zero thats been a member since 1999 with a invalid email that gave me my first negative, and now this??!!
posted on July 10, 2002 02:09:44 AM
There is no such "rule" on eBay. However, auctions do stay in eBay's database for at least 90 days (or so they say), so technically, the bidder would be able to neg you out of spite. If she does neg you, just leave a factual response stating what happened ("Did not pay, then negged me when item unavailable 90 days later!" ) -- plus you can leave a neg for her as well if you like.
It's a good idea to state in your auctions when you expect payment; that way, it's harder for bidders to get upset when their payment arrives too late. I put a two-week time frame in my auctions. In reality, I hold the item for 3-5 weeks, depending on how responsive the bidder is and how good an excuse they have -- but the 2 week time frame covers my backside in case I decide not to wait that long.
(extra smiley -- where'd that come from?)
[ edited by thedewey on Jul 10, 2002 02:10 AM ]
posted on July 10, 2002 10:04:06 AM
As a matter of fact, in the NPB Alert which we are required to file before filing for FVF credit, it says something to the effect that "...seller is not required to hold item...". At least, it did say that...I suppose it still does.
I would send her one more email that we still have the movie, but have never received payment. And never another word.
Have you already filed for FVF?
But this brings up something I don't quite understand about eBay's feedback system. On the one hand, they say a transaction must have occurred in order for either or both parties to leave feedback. And yet when we file for a non-paying bidder, the door is still open for feedback...yet no transaction occurred.
It would seem that when we file the NPB Alert, feedback for that transaction would be frozen until either 1)the seller posted feedback that it had been paid, or 2)until seller gets FVF, at which point eBay leaves a no-comment negative.
posted on July 10, 2002 10:07:44 AM
." And yet when we file for a non-paying bidder, the door is still open for feedback...yet no transaction occurred."
That is one of the huge flaws with the feedback system.
A deadbeat should not be able to leave anything.
posted on July 10, 2002 11:01:25 AM
BY THE WAY.....they have phones AND computers in Mexico, just like they do every where else...maybe not as accesible, but they are there. I have been in Mexico plenty of times. (Unless they were out in Timbucktwo....but they still could have SNAIL mailed you at the least!)
posted on July 10, 2002 08:50:24 PM
There is no law about holding the auction item. This person is confused between the laws about landords obligations to store items that have been left behind and auction forums. A good rule is to hold the item until the NPB & FVF time periods have expired. Once that has happened, all bets are off. In this case, since you left the neg and filed all of the steps, move on. DO NOT RESPOND TO HIS/HER E-MAILS. No sense in adding fuel to the fire. Also a better chance that they will not leave feedback at all if you put them on ignore.
posted on July 10, 2002 09:39:59 PM
If the transaction ended 60 days ago, you only have 30 days to go until it gets dumped from the database and they can't leave a neg. Why not pull a reverse deadbeat tactic on them? Tell them you think you have a new source and you may be able to get them one for $5.00, but it'll take two or three weeks to put it together since you have to go to Canada and they don't have computers or telephones up there. String them along the way some of the professional deadbeats do sellers. When the auction scrolls out of the database, tell them tough luck. Don't forget to put them on your blocked bidders list. You can also report them to their ISP, as I suspect that the Email you will be getting from them will be quite colorful.
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
If she does neg you, just leave a factual response stating what happened ("Did not pay, then negged me when item unavailable 90 days later!" ) -- plus you can leave a neg for her as well if you like.
