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 caffeitalia
 
posted on July 30, 2002 03:42:29 PM new
Here is a great article from MSNBC about the rising problem of fraud. This could also be a good reason that online sales are at their slowest in years.

http://64.4.14.23/l/wc/msnbc/-20730?um=_lang%3DEN&site=http://www%2emsnbc%2ecom%2fmodules%2fexports%2fct_hotmail%2easp%3f%2fnews%2f784132%2easp


PS: Sorry about the misspelled rise. I must have typed both letters at the same time.
[ edited by caffeitalia on Jul 30, 2002 03:44 PM ]
 
 sanmar
 
posted on July 30, 2002 05:58:55 PM new
Read this this morning. Always get the headlines on MSN from MSNBC. Great way to start the day.

 
 JACKSWEBB
 
posted on July 30, 2002 08:57:29 PM new
BIDS,,,,,,YO HO HO HO, BUMP BA DUMPA DUMP. THAR SHE BLOWS........STEP LIVELY MATE.....CAST THE MAIL SAILS AND COME ABOUT. HEADING, 250......LOOK SHARP.
[ edited by JACKSWEBB on Jul 31, 2002 07:57 AM ]
 
 caffeitalia
 
posted on July 31, 2002 04:35:28 AM new
jack,
what?
speak english next time.
 
 bidsbids
 
posted on July 31, 2002 04:51:14 AM new
Jack speaks 'demented sea captain' English.

 
 alwaysfun
 
posted on July 31, 2002 05:34:46 AM new
Thanks for the thread.. as much as I would not like to hear of the fraud because I feel it hurts all our sales, I want to be informed. I do think that eBay really needs to step it up a bit. It isn't helping them one little bit to run those auctions and they are easy to spot. But so many new people to eBay have no clue that they are bidding on a fraudulent auction. I mean it isn't like ebay is going to get paid their fees from the people who are running them so why don't they protect their buyers and in turn it protects those of us who are legit and trying to run a business.

It is a lot to think about... unfortunately I haven't had my first cup of coffee
 
 sword013
 
posted on July 31, 2002 06:41:05 AM new
Although clueless newbie bidders are a part of the problem, I think that ebay's "we are only a venue" attitude actually promotes this kind of thing. Reading through the article, Mr. Carr states that he regularly turns in auctions that appear to quite obviously be scams, yet ebay takes no action and does not pull them. Instead they point to their out of date statistic of one tenth of one percent of auctions being scams or frauds.

I know it may be asking too much for a billion dollar corporation to take personal responsibility for what goes on and for how people are trying to use their website, but if con artists keep going like this and ebay does nothing about it, they will be cutting their own throats. One would think that with the amount of revenues at stake for ebay, they would be more proactive on cracking down on fraud.
[ edited by sword013 on Jul 31, 2002 06:42 AM ]
 
 RB
 
posted on July 31, 2002 06:54:58 AM new
One would think ...

That would be a real world One. Things in eBayLand are a little different.

 
 ironking
 
posted on July 31, 2002 01:33:29 PM new
I think one of the culpit they are mentioning is thebarry, I knew he ran off with 100,000, but I read now it could have been 300,000, and ebays does absolutely nothing! No wonder sales of videotapes are down! thanks alot barry!

 
 quickdraw29
 
posted on July 31, 2002 03:19:12 PM new
I'm wondering if the fraud cases are increasing because there is a rise in hothead buyers who can't wait ten days for their item to arrive.

Online fraud still only represents less than .01% of all transactions so sales aren't hurting from that. Online sales are at its low because all retail sales are low. It's the economee stoopid.


Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
 
 JACKSWEBB
 
posted on July 31, 2002 09:39:45 PM new
WOW!!!!!!!! I LOOKED UP THE ID....HOW COULD ALL THOSE PEOPLE BE SO INSANELY STUPID!!!!!!!!! I KNOW HOW.........THEY NEVER READ ANYTHING......IT'S ALL THEIR OWN FAULT......NEG AFTER NEG AFTER NEG, AFTER NEG.......THEY HAVE ONLY ONE PERSON TO BLAME,,,,,,,,,,,
 
 Libra63
 
posted on July 31, 2002 09:56:45 PM new
That's probably the reason they don't have Safe Harbor anymore. Two many complaints and not willing to do anything about it. That is quite an article. Open's your eyes to how deviate we are getting. Anyway to get money and not work for it. Wouldn't you think that eBay loses a lot of money on that also. Also when someone new lists items like that, you would think it would send a red flag to the billing department at eBay and they would look into it. Maybe it's time a class action law suit is started against eBay. They probably are protectedin some way but it would open the eyes of the public to be more caution in their buying habits. I have no idea why anyone would buy computer products on ebay anyway. Maybe it is a little cheaper but a face to face transaction is better than an email - email. I think everyone wants a laptop so that along with their cell phone they can sit at the breakfast table and do their business. The world is becoming a strange place. I hope they ban cell phones in public places soon, how I hate to be shopping and hear that stupid music coming from someones hip. Especially restaurants.

 
 JACKSWEBB
 
posted on July 31, 2002 10:10:46 PM new
WAIT A NEW YORK MINUTE,,,,,,,,MANY OF THOSE FOLKS HAD TO OF FILED NP.........NAH,,,,NEVER MIND......E BAY SEE'S JUST LIKE I DO,,,,,THEY DID NOTHING.......THEY GOT HIS FEES,,,,,OR THEY WOULD NOT OF LET IT RUN RAMPANT......OBVIOUSLY THAT IS ALL THEY CARED ABOUT. HE PAID THEM ,,,,,NO PROBLEM ,,,,,SCREW THE BUYERS WHO GOT NOTHING.
 
 jalleniii
 
posted on July 31, 2002 10:29:04 PM new
Do you think this guy fits the profile of a scammer? - Item # 1369483766. Gotta love his TOS though! Check out his feedback...pretty bizarre

 
 greatstuff07
 
posted on August 1, 2002 12:10:25 AM new
I checked out the item number. WOW, how could he contine to sell with feedback like that. I also check on some of the people that left feedback for him and found that he doesn't leaves any feedback for anyone.

Would it help this problem if ebay encouraged people to leave feedback. Maybe just a simple reminder to do so. I have talked to a few other sellers, they say that they have sold more than double the amount of feedback they have.



 
 mrfoxy76
 
posted on August 1, 2002 05:36:38 AM new
WOW I WOULD NOT TRUST BUYING FROM THIS PERSON HAHA

 
 
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