posted on December 14, 2002 11:15:46 AM new
Thanks, I think they are Nippon, I finally found one under closed auctions. I am hoping they will pay for the Flow Blue plates that came in the box also that I want to keep!
Fluffy, these would still look stunning with plain white cups, no? They look like they were made yesterday and I did get six of them, 3 flow blue plates (keepers) 4 crystal wine glasses and 4 smaller glasses (still looking for the pattern)and 4 Warwick Pansy bowls with the gold trim for $30.00, so I couldn't pass it up now, could I?
posted on December 14, 2002 01:14:50 PM new
Fluffy: You are so right. I deal in china all of the time, I never buy any that doesn't have a backstamp for ID. As a rule, saucers are worth practictally nothing. Of course there always exceptions to the rule, but it must be apattern that has great demand or is very rare. I sell between $10,00.00 & $15,000.00 worth of china a year to replacement cos. Sometimes I toss pieces away as they aren't worth packing. I can't afford to wrap & pack a piece worth a dime. I have a friend who uses broken china to make all sorts of things. She is tickled to death when I call her that I have a box full of discards.
posted on December 14, 2002 03:04:14 PM new
In our Goodwill they had about 6 saucers forsale so I purchased them 2 were Shelley, and I don't know the rest. When I put the Shelley ones on I said "Maybe you collect just saucers or maybe you broke a saucer and you have a cup to match then this auction is for you. I sold the Shelley ones for about $18.00 a piece and the person who bought them had cups and no saucers... You never know what will sell. As the shadow would say. "You never know what lerks in the Hearts of Men"
posted on December 14, 2002 04:29:14 PM new
so I emailed the bidder of the plate asking if she would identify the pattern for me and here's her reply: (maybe I have a bidder after all!)
I am a member of INCC (International Nippon Collectors Club) so I do know
my nippon, and I will tell you that unlike Noritake, Nippon doesn't have a name to its patterns. Most items were one of a kind, handpainted items until 1915 when they started making the dishes. Jewel Tea (ask your Mom about Jewel Tea) then bought dishes in patterns to give as bonus gifts for the purchase of Jewel Tea items. Nippon was sold in Woolworth and Sears stores.
I do collect the grape pattern and have for many years. It it not typical nippon items which have the large lovely flowers but I like the small borderdesign.
I am sorry I can't give you any info on the pattern. It isn't a very famous pattern but who cares it is lovely. So we maybe having bid wars on it on ebay.
But if you find a piece and wonder if I will be bidding, let me know, I already have a lot of pieces so it maybe a piece I don't need. Happy Holidays.
All I can say is, if she sets her table with this...BIG sigh of envy.
SECOND QUESTION: If you DO list this, do you list it 1 X 1? I know this question has been asked before but since I've never bought or sold any porcelin before I wasn't paying attention
For example, the four little Flow Blue Warwick pansy bowls. It would make more sense to me to list them together, but my antique friend shudders at the idea. While we're at it, does anybody have a price on these? They are 4 3/4" across and 1" deep.
Thanks
[ edited by glassgrl on Dec 14, 2002 04:40 PM ]
posted on December 14, 2002 05:05:14 PM new
If it was me I would list two at a time. Others might have a different opinion. Good Luck and I hope that you get some good bids.
posted on December 15, 2002 12:12:44 AM new
glassgrl, is there a cup ring on the saucer? I ask because I don't see one. If the plates are approximately 6", and there isn't a cup ring, they are bread plates, not saucers. If they are smaller than 6", and if there are no cup rings, they are individual muffin plates. If they are 3", they are butter pat chips.
The flow blue bowls, they are berry bowls, sometimes referred to as sauce or fruit bowls.
The rule of thumb with china, if the pattern is in demand, list one piece at a time. If the pattern is not in demand, list as a set.
Be thorough with your description so that china buyers can find your auctions in their searches. Describe the pattern and colors. Describe the shape of the blank. Spell out any marks on the back. Describe the condition accurately. Never use the words "mint" or "like new" or anything similar to that. Merely state "no chips, cracks or crazing." What is excellent condition to you may not be excellent condition to the buyer. Be sure to mention wear to the gold or pattern, and note any glaze marks.
posted on December 16, 2002 09:41:08 AM newYou never know what will sell.
Actually, I do know what will sell, having been in the china business for a long time.
Education is key. You can blow a lot of money buying pieces that "might" be worth something; prowl your antique stores, read up, get familiar with backstamps.
I once got two big boxes full of Noritake Azalea for $100 at auction because no one else knew what it was. Heck, I sold the Dolly Varden basket out of there for $150, and the rest was pure gravy. However, few people want Azalea that has gold wear.
posted on December 16, 2002 09:43:54 AM newYou never know what will sell.
Actually, I do know what will sell, having been in the china business for a long time.
Education is key. You can blow a lot of money buying pieces that "might" be worth something; prowl your antique stores, read up, get familiar with backstamps.
I once got two big boxes full of Noritake Azalea for $100 at auction because no one else knew what it was. Heck, I sold the Dolly Varden basket out of there for $150, and the rest was pure gravy. However, few people want Azalea that has gold wear.
