kyms
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posted on April 16, 2003 05:16:17 AM
Just woke up to find my third neg this week.
This one reads "Seller desperate,overcharges shipping,prejudice,bad attitude & a big lier :-P"
He has all of -3 Negs, one Neutral and Zero Positive. Auction ended over thw weekend. He negs me w/out any contact. Wrong user info....
I am having a horrible week. I simply cannot understand why anyone would do this.
As for the prejudice remark, nothing could be more untrue. This part really hurts me.
Sorry to whine, but I am having the worst week of my entire ebay life..
Edited to update.
This same guy has done this to me twice this week. This guy is intentionally trying to hurt me. He threatened me in email a few days ago. Said he would hack my PC. I guess bidding on my items and negging me is enough...
[ edited by kyms on Apr 16, 2003 05:32 AM ]
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clivebarkerfan
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posted on April 16, 2003 05:46:00 AM
If he threatened you and his info is wrong, can't you turn him in to eBay?
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CBlev65252
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posted on April 16, 2003 05:50:57 AM
kyms
You cannot please some bidders no matter how hard you try. Don't take his comments to heart. He or she doesn't know you from Adam. Leave a comment of your own under the neg and move on. That's about all you can do. Also, put him or her on your blocked bidders list. Mine is filling up fast. Pretty soon, there will be no one left to bid on anything. I think that EBay's lame commercials are to blame for a lot of the bizzare bidders out there. There is nothing dignified about those commercials and some of the bidders they are attracting.
People who have to resort to name calling, well. . .that should speak for itself. Don't allow anyone that doesn't know you to hurt you with their words. They mean nothing.
I would, however, send him a very nice and neutral email asking that he explain his comments to you. Don't say anything derogatory in the email. Be your kind, sweet self. Kill him or her with kindness. Maybe (although I doubt it), you can make them feel terrible.
 Cheryl
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neonmania
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posted on April 16, 2003 07:32:54 AM
I would contact ebay, send them a copy of the threatening emails and see if perhaps they won't remove the negs based on feedback abuse.
I also would not advise contacting him. He doen't sound quite balanced and I do't think so are going to suddenly win him over. Just do an end run around him.
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neonmania
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posted on April 16, 2003 07:38:02 AM
Ooops!
[ edited by neonmania on Apr 16, 2003 07:38 AM ]
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neglus
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posted on April 16, 2003 07:40:09 AM
i agree with Neon - i'd block him from bidding and from email and report him to ebay. i don't think it's a good idea to email him or have any further contact with him - doubt that you will win him over, teach him a lesson or anything else - he must be a whacko! i'll bet that in the very least your new negs will turn into "from users no longer registered with eBay" in no time and maybe eBay will remove them since they seem to be nuisance and malicious.
[ edited by neglus on Apr 16, 2003 07:40 AM ]
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kyms
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posted on April 16, 2003 07:56:31 AM
I just reported him for invaild contact info, feedback bombing, threats, and a note went to Powersellers as well.
I also sent the treat email with headers to Ebay and to his ISP. I requested they look into it, as it was just full of profanity. He said he would F* me up, but he spelled it out many times. The email was just horrible.
I am so mad. I was too sleepy when it happened to get full blown ticked off, but after a few cups of coffee...
I cannot believe this idiot did this to me. He is one nasty and sick guy. Now I am scared of him hacking my PC. I hope my Norton does the job...
Thanks for understanding. This has just been a bad week. Is it a full moon, or is tax time really driving everyone crazy?
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eauctionmgnt
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posted on April 16, 2003 08:02:06 AM
kyms,
You should also consider reporting this matter to his local police department. Threats of any nature should not be taken lightly. (you don't know if this wacko might decide to show up on your doorstep... and he does have access to your contact info!) If you at least contact the police in advance, you can establish a paper-trail of any incidents BEFORE they even occur. It also can be a big wake-up call for a cyber-bully when the police come knocking at the door! Good luck!
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Libra63
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posted on April 16, 2003 08:05:35 AM
It's like hiding behind your mothers apron. He threatens you because you can't see him. He probably hasn't taken his medicine for quite some time. Block him and also you can block his emails, that is if you want to. If you think more threatening ones are coming that is some more good ammunition to send to eBay and his ISP. No matter how badly you treat someone you don't have to put up with the abuse you are taking from him. Have a cold Chai with raspberry, tastes better and better for you.
Why was he upset with you in the first place? Block him/her move on....
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kyms
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posted on April 16, 2003 08:12:59 AM
He was upset because he felt I overcharged him 26 cents on shipping. I know that sounds lame, but that is the truth.
He felt he should have paid $3.99 postage. He had to pay $4.25 and that made him irate.
He never complained about the charge in the beginning, only when the item was in his hands. I gave him a tracking number in the beginning so he could watch the shipping progress... I shipped right away... The only thing he originally complained about was the 26 cent problem that I did not know was a problem.
I'd have shipped the stupid thing for $3.99 if it would have saved me this problem. But my ad read $4.25 and he paid $4.25 without question. Nobody else complains about my shipping prices...
I did block him after the first problem. He just bid with another account. God only knows how many accounts this jerk has, but I bet a get a neg from all of them.
[ edited by kyms on Apr 16, 2003 08:14 AM ]
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lindajean
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posted on April 16, 2003 08:38:56 AM
kyms: How do you know it is him under another account? How do you track someone like that?
Did he win today's bid or just bid again?
What a nightmare! I am definitely signing up for Endicia and going stealth...TODAY!
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clivebarkerfan
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posted on April 16, 2003 08:41:06 AM
If you think he just bid on another one of your auctions, cancel the bid and turn that i.d. into eBay as well. Oh, and block that one too.
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neglus
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posted on April 16, 2003 08:50:59 AM
would it be self defeating to require a minimum feedback number for bidders in your TOS until this guy gets bored and goes someplace else?
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kyms
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posted on April 16, 2003 08:56:10 AM
The name is almost identical. His first and last name, diferent number next to it. Kinda like johnjones22 & johnjones23. One with a free isp, one from AOL. Pretty obvious.
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lindajean
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posted on April 16, 2003 09:50:34 AM
Did he win so it is too late to block and cancel?
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kyms
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posted on April 16, 2003 10:01:17 AM
Yes he won before I knew he bid. The negs are gone now and he is NARU.
Hope this stops but I now have faith that Ebay is helping me. If he does it again under another name they will take that neg away too.
I have never felt so good about Ebay customer service, they really took this seriously and removed so fast! I am shocked. I really thought this would be a long involved process.
Thanks everyone! This has been a real roller coaster ride!
[ edited by kyms on Apr 16, 2003 10:22 AM ]
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kyms
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posted on April 16, 2003 10:04:41 PM
Update. The guy was thown off and he just emailed this to me.
"I KNOW WHAT YOU DID AND THIS MEANS WAR..GET THAT PARANOID BRAIN OF YOURS IN FULL GEAR COZ KARMA IS SEALING YOUR FATE THRU ME"
Is this serious enough to contact police?
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neglus
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posted on April 16, 2003 10:28:48 PM
YES ...He knows where you live doesnt he from the WBN and you know who he is? ..wouldn't hurt to contact them and they can run a check on him ...I hope your day tomorrow is a WHOLE LOT BETTER!!
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hwkncat
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posted on April 16, 2003 10:30:36 PM
Definitely!! Don't waste any more time on this jerk. Let the PD take over, this guy is more than harassing you and it sound like you should be fearing for your safety.
You might want to assume a new identity on ebay, to protect yourself. Maybe ebay will let you keep your old feedback profile, minus this jerks' input of course. Not quite sure how they would set this up, but you should not ave to put up with crap like this.
Good Luck ....
hwkncat
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lindajean
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posted on April 16, 2003 10:31:58 PM
Everyone should use a PO box or mail drop. No way do I let anyone know where I live.
I know there are ways to find my address but I think it is a complicated process and maybe the crazy people won't go that far.
I can't believe there are so many nuts out there.
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jnash
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posted on April 17, 2003 03:38:18 PM
I wouldn't fool around with this nut case. Call the police, notify
your ISP and his of any threatening e-mail (even bad Karma
threats Hee Hee.) Also let your and his ISP know of the
hacking threats. Everytime you have PC or connection trouble
for the next week I'd go as far to suspect him and tell your ISP
you suspect a DOS (Denial of service) attack from him.
I'd even consider asking a lawyer if I had any kind of case against
this guy since you've been emotionally and even possibly sexually
attacked. You can sue anybody. Might not win but it might be fun
to see him squirm in court.
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kyms
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posted on April 17, 2003 03:51:12 PM
"Might not win but it might be fun
to see him squirm in court."
That comment made me smile. Thanks!
I did file a police report when ebay told me to this morning. Ebay offered to give all this guys info to the police and Ebay has shut down (hopefully) all of his accounts.
The police gave me a report and said a detective would follow up soon.
I doubt this gets me anywhere, but if he does get a visit from a cop it may make him think twice about doing this to anyone else.
That everyone, you've all been great help and Ebay's Safe Harbour Staff is outstanding.
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ahc3
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posted on April 17, 2003 05:35:22 PM
Lindajean,
I agree, I don't give out my home phone, address, nothing! I've had customers want to pick items up from home, no way! I will meet them in a neutral public location but not at my house. Too many nutcases out there! Heck, even on this board I am anonymous, I try to keep my identity to myself as someone here once threatened to sabotauge my auctions!
Good for you for getting the police involved, they should be. Keep us updated...
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on April 17, 2003 09:16:53 PM
I will meet them in a neutral public location but not at my house.
I guess I don't understand this.
If someone means to do you harm, all they have to do is follow you from that public location to a less-public place.
(Not to mention that I was once attacked in a supermarket parking lot -- in broad daylight -- though not by an eBayer!)
I would urge you and other sellers to avoid face-to-face meetings entirely. Don't let anyone guilt you into feeling like you have to go out of your way to save someone postage. Your personal safety just isn't worth the risk.
--
"I'm thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said `I drank WHAT?'"
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neonmania
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posted on April 17, 2003 09:21:42 PM
The closest I have ever come to allowing a pick-up is when I allowed a customer to pick up a package that I left at my mail drop.
There is no way I would ever want to deal personally with my customers. I'm not as nice in person as I am on here...... 
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ahc3
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posted on April 17, 2003 10:09:22 PM
I think I have met three customers in person (one was when I was the buyer and I saved $60 in postage) - Someone can go to my mail boxes etc. store (now The UPS Store) see me get my mail, and follow me. If they want to get you, they will get you.
I think gender is an issue as well. While anyone can be attacked, I think it is riskier for women.
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Libra63
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posted on April 17, 2003 10:28:55 PM
kyms-you never told us. Does he live far from you to beable to meet you face to face?
If he does that would be scarry. I think since eBay is getting such bad publicity that they will do all they can to help someone out. It seems like scams, harrasement etc is running rampant with eBay and they need to figure out a way to stop it.
I am happy to hear that eBay helped in this situation and now maybe sellers or buyers would not hesitate to get help from eBay if they need it.
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eyedo
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posted on April 18, 2003 12:22:14 AM
A few years ago I was harrassed by an ebay member and he also started calling me and hanging up.
I had a police trap put on my phone and they nailed him.He was out of state..
But in the interim(I found out a year later) that he had posted libelous stuff about me on usenet...
he was basically pissed that I as an artist/phoographer was charging $20 for a photo!(I usually get much more than that and it's my decision of what to charge...)
I should have filed a libel suit(I would have won in a second) but the guy was too weird and I just had to walk away.
Report them.Don't let them think they can get away with harrassing you!
eyedo
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kyms
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posted on April 18, 2003 05:31:02 AM
We are not in close states but when I have someone saying the things he did I still take no chances. Who knows if he has friends in my area. He could travel... who knows. I may be paranoid, but better safe than sorry.
I looked into is location and it is a very upscale area. I guess rich folks can be psycho too...
These past few days I've felt like I was in a bad movie. The last email that said "I Know What You Did.." made me feel like a teenager in a bad slasher flick. I feel like I have been attacked by my very own terrorist.
I believe I found a real scam artist. By following his past auctions and cross checking in feedback it looks like he may have had accounts for a few years. Looks like he bids on his own auctions many times with about 20 account names to build his feedback.
I also noted the guy was selling CDR's and DVD Copies of Gay Porn. One of his accounts had a neg from a bidder who claimed the DVD was dubbed and wanted a refund. This jack-donkey negs back with things like "F* You F*g Freak.".
I would go to Ebay so fast if someone did that to my feedback, but the poor bidder seems to have abandoned Ebay in shame.
People like this make honest folk shy away from on-line stuff.
Since I've had no contact from him in over 24 hours I think he may have lost his ISP's Iforwarded his threats and profanity to all his ISP's along with the police report number..). I hope I have slowed him down but I'll keep you all posted. I feel safe in the daytime, he signs on at about 11:00pm. So I guess I wait until tonight to see if he surfaces again.
Sorry if I seem confusing, I just woke up.
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