zircon4
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posted on June 1, 2003 01:44:27 AM
Hi All,
I found this bottle buried in an old railway construction campsite that has not been used since around 1960 but it was used several time previously dating back to 1890. I know absolutely nothing about old glass/bottles. Does any body here have any idea how old this is? I am in Australia so I do not even know if these bottles are imported or manufactured locally. Even if someone can point me in direction of a good reference for this kind of stuff it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Adrian
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tomwiii
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posted on June 1, 2003 06:07:51 AM
hey,boy?? You still using that greasy kids stuff??
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"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
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Damariscotta
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posted on June 1, 2003 07:13:33 AM
This link might give you an idea of age and how common it was in Australia.
http://www.museum.vic.gov.au/windows/war/brylcreem.asp
I would suspect not a valuable relic, but interesting local history.
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Roadsmith
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posted on June 1, 2003 07:48:32 AM
Do you see that mold line down from the top, through the screw-on part and partway into the bottle? I think that means it's not one of the very oldest of bottles, but I've forgotten when that sort of mark appeared. I had quite a few bottles with that sort of mark but also with bubbles in the glass that seemed to indicate age.
If you put it in the sun for a while, see what tint it turns--yellow or green or purple. That can help date a bottle, too.
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captian23
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posted on June 1, 2003 08:26:09 AM
I found a bunch of similar type bottles near where I work. I thought I hit the mother load!! Needless to say I did not. I listed a bunch and sold only 1 for around $1. I couldn't even sell them at a Garage Sale!!
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Libra63
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posted on June 1, 2003 08:32:56 AM
It's not that greasy kid stuff - It is
"A Little Dab will do you" A blast from the past....That add ran with a squeeze tube not the bottle so it is older than the 50's.
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zircon4
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posted on June 1, 2003 02:53:21 PM
Thanks everybody.
LOL at tomwiii!
I am not looking to sell this just to be able to accurately describe it. The fun part was walking a couple of miles through the bush to the old campsite and digging up the bottles. There are literally thousands of bottles but this is the only Brylcreem one.
Damariscotta,
are you an Aussie or did you get lucky hunting for that website, I have looked plenty of times but I have never seen that one.
Roadsmith,
How long does it take for the glass to tint? This bottle was completely buried so it has not discoloured at all. All of the bottles on top of the ground were bright purple green and yellow though.
Libra,
That was a great little jingle but way before my time. lol While this is not a valuable piece I am very eager to find out it's age. Do you know if the numbers and this on the bottom give this info away?
Once again, thanks everyone.
Cheers,
Adrian
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Roadsmith
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posted on June 1, 2003 02:58:42 PM
Adrian: The color of the bottles found on top of the pile are a good indication that you may have an older bottle here.
When I dug up dozens of old bottles behind our 1800s mountain cabin, if I held some of them to a strong sunlight, they had a slight pink tinge at the bottom, where the glass is thickest.
What I did then was to find a safe place with the optiimum amount of sunlight through the day, and watched them. Within a few weeks the purple tint had darkened a little bit. It takes sometimes a few years to bring a bottle, in the sun, to its optimum purple, in my experience. A rooftop or south- or west-facing window are good bets for exposure. Of course, it's winter for you now, isn't it? Good luck!
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Damariscotta
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posted on June 1, 2003 03:25:58 PM
I just googled it; I may have used brylcreem + australia thinking I might find a page on a corporate web - but this was much more interesting.
Shouldn't that jar go the other way since you are on the opposite side of the world?
Damariscotta,
are you an Aussie or did you get lucky hunting for that website, I have looked plenty of times but I have never seen that one.
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zircon4
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posted on June 1, 2003 03:57:17 PM
Hi Roadsmith,
Thanks for that. As I said previously I know nothing about old glass. Wouldn't the bottle be more collectible if it is the original colour?
Hi Damariscotta,
The direction of the thread is quite clever, it closes in the same direction as the earth's rotation. If it went the other way it would just unscrew itself as the world turns.
To paraphrase Monty Python.
"Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour."
Cheers,
Adrian
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Roadsmith
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posted on June 1, 2003 04:12:55 PM
Adrian: From looking at your photo again, it looks as though your bottle wants to turn yellow rather than the purple or green. I think I see some yellow tint in the bottom. Don't know how valuable that would be.
Most old bottles that start our clear are more valuable when they turn color, because they show their age (like us senior citizens going gray).
And, yes, in your hemisphere I suppose you would need to reverse the window placement! Didn't think of that--duh--because I never have to.
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Libra63
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posted on June 1, 2003 04:20:16 PM
zircon4~ Be sure when you list it you put in the phrase "A little Dab will do ya. That is the way they advertised it. I also think they use the phrase "stop using that greasy kid stuff" but I don't know for sure. This is an add from the 50's.
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dadofstickboy
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posted on June 1, 2003 04:52:12 PM
Brylcreem: a little dab will do ya,
Brylcreem: you'll look so debonair,
Brylcreem: a little dab will do ya, she'll love to run her fingers through your hair!
By the way: Brylcreem was the greasy kids stuff.
Vitalis: was the other big one!
No grease there just pure alcohol.
[ edited by dadofstickboy on Jun 1, 2003 04:56 PM ]
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Libra63
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posted on June 1, 2003 05:08:45 PM
Thanks dad. Are you that old????? just joking. I knew someone would know it, the tune I have but the words just slipped away.
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dadofstickboy
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posted on June 1, 2003 05:26:23 PM
Let's see now, if Alzheimers serves me right:
I'm old enough to have used it in my school days, and young enough to still remember.
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auctionace
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posted on June 1, 2003 08:36:17 PM
The big competitor to Brylcreem in the '60's was Vitalis. Brylcreem was a cream in a toothpaste-like tube and Vitalis was a liquid in a glass bottle. The Pat Riley wet-look was in back then and a flattop or pompodor haircut needed the goo to maintain it's structure.
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upriver
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posted on June 1, 2003 10:48:08 PM
zircon4:
Hi, it is likely around 1950s era.
Bottles only turn purple from sunlight if they are earlier than about 1910-1915, after that the glass was not made with the kind of materials that react to sunlight, so yours would just stay clear.
Have fun if you do some more digging, who knows what might be there?
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zircon4
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posted on June 2, 2003 04:03:04 AM
Thanks upriver.
It was buried though so it did not get direct sunlight. Nearly all of the glass on the surface was purple though.
Cheers,
Adrian
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