posted on February 3, 2004 11:41:38 AM new
I want my class (adult students) to experience "selling" on Ebay (or like auction site) and actually place items on the internet. however, if they go to Ebay they will hit their credit card and don't want the students to be charged.
What site besides Ioffer, can I take the students for a "free listing" and where they won't have to pay? thank you all -- and please no snide remarks.
http://lwright.biz/index.html
[ edited by Salgal48 on Feb 3, 2004 12:56 PM ]
posted on February 3, 2004 12:13:29 PM new
I think I'd do it "for real" rather than pretend. Set you up an Ebay account to sell and let them contribute stuff. Then they'll be more excited about following the auction, and then they'll learn how to take pictures, package stuff up, answer emails etc.
I don't think you could accomplish the same excitement generated with a pretend auction.
Oh, of course, instead of the teenies being in charge, you would be responsible for the auction, right?
posted on February 3, 2004 12:42:26 PM new
Well Ebay is the only auction site where they can get a feel of what internet buying and selling is. The rest have no traffic and no pizaaz!
Is this a class people paid for or this college level, high school?
You could charge a service fee up front that would cover everyone's auction fees, then set up an account.
posted on February 3, 2004 12:42:44 PM new
You have to be 18 to sell on eBay, do you not? The "teens" would not be able to use their information and you would be responsible for all fees, etc. because an adult would have to sign up and use their credit card or bank information. I don't think it's a risk I'd want to take. I'm not being snide here, but I'd rather not have a bunch of teenagers selling on eBay. I have teenagers and that's where I base my opinion.
Edited to add: This is assuming, of course, that the students are under 18. If they are over 18, go for it. Could be fun.
posted on February 3, 2004 12:53:19 PM new
so at 18, they're "mature"?
that's why I added that the teacher would be the seller.
the best lesson my daughter and I learned was when I turned her child support payments over to her when she was about 10. a few weeks later she just HAD to have a pair of $100.00 nike's.
She outgrew them in a month and after that she said "can we go to Walmart?"
She started working at a Vet at age 14, and by age 16 had saved enough to buy her own car with cash.
posted on February 3, 2004 12:56:32 PM new
Adult students
They already have an EBay account, we set it up last week. Just trying to figure out the best way to handle this.
Although, I could have them go through a listing for 1 day and the charge would be about 10cents; correct?
Answered my own question: Since the class opened an ebay account last week, I will ask them to bring one item to class that they want to sell and let them know that ebay will charge their credit card.
http://lwright.biz/index.html
[ edited by Salgal48 on Feb 3, 2004 12:57 PM ]
[ edited by Salgal48 on Feb 3, 2004 01:11 PM ]
posted on February 3, 2004 01:27:58 PM new
i cant help but muse, is this not the same as going on a field trip to the mall game room;; or better, teaching ebay equates to teaching someone how to watch television...most "18" year olds are 10x more prolific, more learned than their preceeding generation..especially computers...
for sure, this is only my tiny opinion. and it probably matters not, except to me.
smhoward
posted on February 3, 2004 01:40:29 PM new
myoldtoy
You are so correct! I was amazed today to watch my 5-year old granddaughter use a mouse at the computer. She was playing one of my games and spelling words correctly. She's in school a full day and has science, match, gym, english. Geesh. We learned to color in the lines in kindergarten.
Since they're adults, I think it's great. They'll learn all sorts of things selling on eBay. And I do mean "all sorts" of things. Could be a great learning experience for them.
posted on February 3, 2004 01:54:06 PM new
and I'm sure everybody is biting their tongue to keep from saying "and maybe they'll get a rude and/or deadbeat bidder" so that they'll learn NOT to do that too.
I'm sorry. That wasn't snide was it? I didn't mean it to be.
posted on February 3, 2004 02:01:02 PM new
kiara:
and please no snide remarks.
Just a few comments from an observer........
I pasted the above from your thread... I hope nobody makes with the "snide." and, i hope it is not too offensive that i am on my soapbox right now -i would like to take your rather perceptive thread a little further...i cringe at the thought of this "class coming to reality." my first neg was from a member of an "adult education" class...first someone bid on my item, to reach reserve...then never bothered to withdraw their bid[they didnt know that]..i still have the emails from the teacher, and the perpetrator; that they were just practising buying on ebay..they never did GET IT - that they were screwing wtih my livelihood..i asked them to tell me where enrolled, of course no such luck...then, believe it or not, they negg'ed me..i have always wondered if that was part of the class cirriculum also...so, to Salga48[teacher], dont screw around with people's livelihood... i ask you to exercise good judgement and common sense, as well as empathy for those of us who never got to practise first...myoldtoy
posted on February 3, 2004 03:07:03 PM new
Interesting comments. Nobody read that the students will be "selling" and not "bidding". We did that last week with an item I put up for bid.
I asked a simple question and got attitude and anger.
http://lwright.biz/index.html
posted on February 3, 2004 03:26:01 PM new
geez....and you're a teacher?
[QUOTE]I asked a simple question and got attitude and anger.[/QUOTE]
oh, you took offense to the "How can you teach your class how to sell on ebay when you don't even know about it?"
obiviously when you came in the room with the "no snide remarks" you already had a chip on your shoulder and YOU had the attitude to go with it.
I don't think anybody was showing you an attitude or anger, I think everybody was trying to be helpful in their own way. I know I was. They should learn the realities of selling on Ebay if that's what you intend to teach them.
The reality IS that many of the people here put up with deadbeat bidders and the like. A LOT of people think selling on Ebay is soooo easy. My husband thought that right up until I tried to get him to list an auction all on his own.
posted on February 3, 2004 03:51:27 PM new
oh wait...here it is!
Salgal48
posted on June 30, 2003 09:04:17 PM
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"Why dont people like you not want to believe
that gay people are born that way. Nobody chooses to be gay. "
This is debatable. It's believed through studies that gayness is a LEARNED behavior. When we see how many young men were molested and seduced by priests -- THOUSANDS!!! -- over the years, not only priests, but Scouts, and family members -- that's a learned behavior.
If you read Chastity Bono's autobio she was seduced by the nanny who was 10 years older than she was. They ended up in an adult relationship when she came of age, but that was a learned behavior.
About 1% of gay people are BORN THAT WAY. "
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I just searched all the closed posts to see what you have posted in the past and why you are so defensive here.
1% of gay people are BORN THAT WAY??? Gayness is a learned behavior?
YOU are teaching our children?
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posted on February 3, 2004 03:53:42 PM newNobody read that the students will be "selling" and not "bidding". We did that last week with an item I put up for bid.
Salgal, you've been hanging around here for almost a year now and I made my comment because I did read that you wanted to teach them to sell.
It brought to mind the thread from the other day where you thought that if someone bid the reserve price they would automatically win the auction and no one else could bid.
I asked a simple question and got attitude and anger.
Anger? Attitude? Hmmmm...... no one is angry (except maybe you) and the "attitude" is probably just advice and comments and experience from people who really do buy and sell.
myoldtoy, I wonder how many other sellers have been burned by "adult education classes" ?
posted on February 3, 2004 03:59:15 PM new
hello again Salga148...first, i apologize for mispelling your name earlier...i am sure you realize by now, this "forum" is not for "the faint of heart." none of the people carrying a dialogue with you take their business [or hobby] lightly...in fact, it seems that some, like myself show their passions quickly/easily - that is basically because each has a passion to "do right" with what they present to the public..i speak for myself, in saying, "the eBay platform provides an incremental increase to my retirement income..and, this income is produced in an arena in which competition is the least of the downside factors..." ebay's sometimes independent attitude makes many sellers feel like sitting ducks - as exampled by: coming off another quarter of record earnings; ebay announces a fee increase...i did perceive your thread correctly, that [1] the students were adult, and [2] you were teaching them to sell...number 3 should have been, perhaps, to have them each review 3-4 the many threads and discuss them in an open forum..but i dont know, i was never an educator...myoldtoy
posted on February 3, 2004 04:31:53 PM new
to Kiara: i hope to hell none.
again my soapbox... "teaching ebay" should contain as its core subject matter, the many threads in this forum...yes, it is a nitty gritty, battery acid strong, balsy, bottom line and fullbore discussion but it is reality..
the teacher posting this thread is, i am sure, well intentioned...what educator isnt...but, as one thread questions the qualifications, i question how a lesson plan could NOT include this forum...it[forum] is not the back door to ebay...rather it is the only really open window with a view...
posted on February 3, 2004 04:55:57 PM new
I hope you teach police science. Let me know when you get to the chapter on vice.
I am ASSuming that your current class is about internet crimes.......
posted on February 3, 2004 06:24:09 PM new
There is a way to use the eBay test environment at no charge, which is as close as you can get to listing on eBay without having to pay for it. You have to apply for it, though, and since I am not convinced that 1) you are a serious teacher* and 2) your students are likely to benefit** to the extent that it is worth inconveniencing serious users of that environment, I'm not going to give a pointer to it.
I am new here, and perhaps others would give you this information, but I choose not to.
* Looking up your past postings, you have asked oddly-rudimentary questions about eBay that are inconsistent with your claim of teaching a class on this.
** Nothing worthwhile comes for free. If your students are unwilling to spring for the 30 cent basic listing fee, I doubt their level of interest.
posted on February 4, 2004 07:17:53 AM new
this is the same Salga who wants paypal to behave just like half.com when it comes to depositing fund in her bank account.
salga,
this is a good place to ask questions,but you can find answers to your question on paypal,ebay etc by visiting the official sites of paypal,ebay etc.
-sig file -------the lobster in the boiling pot of water who tries to prevent the others from climbing out.
