bkkofaz
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posted on February 24, 2004 05:27:58 PM new
.......you e-mail bidders that the "antique" they are bidding on is actually new? I would say conservatively that 80% of auctions for Asian, more precisely Chinese, antiques are being grossly misrepresented. Out and out fraud in some cases. Or would "I" be the guilty one? What do guys think?
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CBlev65252
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posted on February 24, 2004 05:31:07 PM new
IMO, it's auction interference. You might want to email the seller. They may not actually know.
Cheryl
http://tinyurl.com/vm6u
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Roadsmith
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posted on February 24, 2004 05:34:16 PM new
You're right about those Asian imports. We have a friend who owns three Eastern import shops. Every Tuesday she drives to L.A. to a warehouse where she gets boxes and boxes of the stuff (new), straight from Asia. Sells them and does very well. I don't think she deliberately represents them as antiques, but they look old and there's no disclaimer on any of the stuff.
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bkkofaz
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posted on February 24, 2004 05:35:14 PM new
In the cases I'm seeing, many sellers are from China or Chinese and there is NO WAY that they can not know judging from their numerous listings. I've e-mailed sellers in the past with (no surprise) no response, not one in a couple of dozen. I know the merchandise I'm questioning 100%. How can we stop the rampant fraud that is happening? I haven't listed in a year because this crap killed my eBay business.
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CBlev65252
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posted on February 24, 2004 05:38:05 PM new
Well, if the seller is in China, 99% of the time the item is probably a repro. Antiquities are not allowed out of China anymore. I have one item that has a special customs stamp on the bottom giving the family special permission to bring it to the states. I never bid on items coming out of China or Japan.
Cheryl
http://tinyurl.com/vm6u
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bkkofaz
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posted on February 24, 2004 05:39:41 PM new
Actually, you'd be surprised what is allowed out of China. I ship antiques and sometimes antiquities. It depends on what it is if the govt has a problem letting it out.
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kiara
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posted on February 24, 2004 05:42:45 PM new
How can we stop the rampant fraud that is happening?
Buyers have to become more educated about what they're spending their money on. Unfortunately that means that some of them will be "ripped off" more than one time before they start to ask questions and learn about what they're buying. Sad but true.
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CBlev65252
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posted on February 24, 2004 05:43:31 PM new
You've got to love the ones selling "antiques" for $9.99 and then tacking on $30+ for shipping! The $9.99 should be a tip off to most people to begin with. Never would I sell any of my antique Chinese for $9.99 even with $30 for shipping.
Cheryl
http://tinyurl.com/vm6u
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bkkofaz
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posted on February 24, 2004 05:47:18 PM new
There are TONS getting ripped off, most of who don't even know it! That's what ticks me off. The knowledgeable bidders stay away but there are SO MANY that are ignorant that it keeps the sellers selling happily away, charging high shipping fees from overseas and accepting only cash, m.o, wire transfer, Western Union,. You don't have much recourse even when you do find that you bought that new, $5 Buddha head for $400. w $150 shipping
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Fenix03
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posted on February 24, 2004 06:39:58 PM new
Emailing bidders redarding an auction that is not yours is considered auction interference. What you could do is go about educating thru your listings. I've seen this a few times where a seller went the extra mile to explain where the pitfalls in other auctions were in a con confronting, educational manner and generally speaking, their auctions did well.
On the other hand some people are buying the item, not the description. I found a gorgeous "Antique Chinese Alter Table" that I was very interested in. I liked the look of it and it fit a need that I have on a deserted wall. I ended up not bidding because of the delivery method but I can't believe I am the only one that knew but did particularly care that it was not really an antique.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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bkkofaz
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posted on February 24, 2004 06:55:20 PM new
Okay, I looked up Ebay's definition of auction interference and it is
"Transaction interference - Emailing buyers in an open or ended transaction to warn them away from a seller or item. "
So, if you email a bidder that an item they are bidding on is significantly different than as represented without telling them not to bid on the item or purchase from the seller but merely as informative, does that apply?
It seems there are more rules to protect the criminals than the victims...
"We are only a venue and we will punish you if you do anything to affect our FVF".
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jimsdeals2day
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posted on February 24, 2004 09:41:13 PM new
I for one am indebted to an email from a experienced seller. On my other ID I was buying and selling S&P shakers.
I misrepresented and he pointed it out. I changed it.
Got to studying more, come to find out I had stuff that was worth 10 times what I was asking. Also stuff that was as commom as dirt. Needless to say, I for one appreciated the note.
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