yeager
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posted on April 23, 2004 02:10:02 AM new
I picked up this lamp the other day in a junk shop. I got a good bargain on it. There is no markings on the bottom of the base, name or otherwise. On the switch is Harvey Hubbell with the oldest pantent date of 1896 and the newest of 1902. It's made of white metal and brass. The middle conical section is pressed brass. Got any ideas anybody?
Thanks very much!!
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Roadsmith
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posted on April 23, 2004 08:55:57 AM new
Kewl lamp! No clue, though.
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cherishedclutter
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posted on April 23, 2004 10:07:56 AM new
The style makes me think "arts & craft". I don't know if that's technically correct. I saw a few lamps listed with "Hubbell socket" in the title.
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on April 23, 2004 11:21:57 AM new
It is definetly from the Arts & Craft period. Too bad it's not hammered copper. Is it copper or brass?
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yeager
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posted on April 23, 2004 12:27:24 PM new
The rounded pieces are white or pot metal that were orginally brass plated. The cone is solid brass and cleaned up beautifully. That portion shines like new!! The bead work around the bottom of the round sections are also pot metal, that I think was originally brass plated. The base was copper plated cast iron. I bet it was beautiful when it was new.
With the exception of the brass cone, most of it needs refinishing. I wonder if brass repeplating is expensive?
I think that I might paint the non brass parts. Any ideas for a good color combination?
Thanks!
[ edited by yeager on Apr 23, 2004 12:28 PM ]
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tomwiii
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posted on April 23, 2004 12:28:20 PM new
Looks like a Mr Coffee to Ralphie!
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max40
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posted on April 23, 2004 12:38:00 PM new
"The cone is solid brass and cleaned up beautifully. That portion shines like new!!"
You did wwwwaaahhhhttt?
"The only thing more expensive than an education is ignorance" B. Franklin
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rarriffle
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posted on April 23, 2004 12:52:33 PM new
well, there went that patina. if they wanted a lamp that looked like new, they would probably buy a new lamp.
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on April 23, 2004 12:56:37 PM new
I think what Max is saying that you should not ever clean an antique until you know what you have. Many Antiques lose most of their value when they are cleaned! Of course they have to have value to begin with - guess it's a good thing it wasn't hammered copper by Roycroft!!
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sparkz
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posted on April 23, 2004 02:08:39 PM new
You polished the brass and now you're going to paint the rest of it? Humor me along and tell me you're just joking, pleeeeesee!!
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
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cblev65252
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posted on April 23, 2004 03:03:17 PM new
I'm probably going to get killed here, but my brother's partner is an antiques dealer with over 35 years in the business and here's what he told me regarding polishing: brass - okay; bronze - not okay; painting - never. The green gunk especially needs to be cleaned because it eats away at the metal and compromises it.
Cheryl
http://www.kcskorner.com
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yeager
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posted on April 23, 2004 09:42:14 PM new
Come on guys. This lamp looks like it was in a house fire. When you even held it in your hand, your hand was dirty. I don't know if soot is an asset to antique lamps.
It didn't have any patina. It had filth. The rounded portions on the top and bottom were originally brass plated. I washed them with a little soap and water and the when the dirt and soot was off, there was hardly anything left. Only white metal with plenty of tiny pits from many years of neglect. Even if I went to the expense of replating it, the pits would show.
I like restored antiques anyway. People restore antique cars all the time when they are in poor shape. It only improves them. I guess its how you want it to look.
[ edited by yeager on Apr 23, 2004 09:45 PM ]
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stormseerfla
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posted on April 24, 2004 12:52:33 AM new
Neat lamp to begin with, from reading posts it seems to me it lost most of its value now. Sure you can restore it like they do old cars, just add some wheels to it and use the switch pull chain to drag it along *jokingly* You should have listed it as-is like when you posted the pictures I'm sure you could have got something out of it since it does look like arts & craft.
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Damariscotta
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posted on April 24, 2004 03:34:47 AM new
I know I'll get slammed for this, but there is not much you could do that will hurt the value (if any) of this lamp. It was not a high quality lamp to begin with, and does not even appear to be designed, as much as made up of parts a lamp manufacturer may have already had on hand (as many period lamps were). The patent dates mean only that it is an old cheap and ugly lamp, as opposed to a newer cheap and ugly lamp. And not even ugly enough to interesting in that respect.
Still trying to figure out what made this lamp a "bargain".
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myoldtoy
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posted on April 24, 2004 05:19:13 AM new
..the 1896 date refers to the hubbell socket - first patented in 1896, and several times after that...and still in the hubbell line after 108 years...if listed under lamp parts, it may sell, if for no other reason, the pull sockets are considered original to b/hubbards, miller lamps, etc..
good luck, myoldtoy
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Roadsmith
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posted on April 24, 2004 07:41:03 AM new
You know, folks, there's a market for almost anything. Yeager, will you please let us know what you get for this item? I have sold some of these pound puppies for much more than I thought they'd bring, even as "marriages," or partially "restored." I don't think the lamp is ugly, just beaten down. (Is there such a thing as "lamp abuse"?)
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yeager
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posted on April 24, 2004 11:12:12 PM new
Hi All,
What made this lamp a bargain? Five bucks! That's it!
Roadsmith, I don't know if I am going to sell it. I like it. Also, I think lamp abuse is a federal offense. lol
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Damariscotta
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posted on April 25, 2004 01:56:00 PM new
>>What made this lamp a bargain? Five bucks! That's it!
After getting a new base and fittings, rewiring adding a new shade, and maybe a vase or something to replace the body, you'll have a nice looking lamp there.
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on April 25, 2004 01:58:40 PM new
I think it's time to Shabby Chic it!!! Get a little beaded shade and off you go.
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